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hahatch - 2008-01-29 10:14 PM Hi Everyone I've been very quiet here, somewhat intimidated, but I am learning a lot from the group. As a beginner and training for my first olympic in 3 months, I never factored in getting sick! I've been trying to get in some training since last Thursday (when I realized I was coming down with something) but it hasn't been going so great. So,what is the best course of action? What do you do about missed training? Do you pick up where you left off or just jump back in?

Hi Heather! Great to hear from you.  My advice is to not even worry about the training you've missed due to sickness.  Its still very early in the year.  I would simply ease back into training over a week period or so.  Don't try to make up for missed workouts.  When you feel you are 100% back to normal you can resume your normal training plan.  You won't gain anything by rushing into things too quickly.  Keep in touch!



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2008-01-29 10:39 PM
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Hi Heather,

I agree with what Jim said. Make sure that you are well before training too hard, otherwise you may get sick again. I hope that you are back at 100% soon.
2008-01-29 10:42 PM
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Just wondering if other people use recovery drinks. I tend to only use them if I do a long workout, generally longer than 1.5 to 2 hours. Do you use a recovery drink? And if so, do you use it after all your workouts?
2008-01-29 10:48 PM
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I don't use any commercial recovery drinks.  However, I do like to make one of my smoothies (see above post) after workouts over 2 hours. 
2008-01-30 3:42 AM
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Birkierunner - 2008-01-29 7:08 AM hmmmmm....last night there were 2000 views of our thread and now there are 2024 with only 2 new posts....somebody's spying on us  

Not me. You?

Birkie's the coolest thing in tri since aerobars. For real. Anything he posts, I read. And from what I can tell, you've attracted a group much like yourself .

2008-01-30 7:40 AM
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TriAya - 2008-01-30 3:42 AM

Birkierunner - 2008-01-29 7:08 AM hmmmmm....last night there were 2000 views of our thread and now there are 2024 with only 2 new posts....somebody's spying on us  

Not me. You?

Birkie's the coolest thing in tri since aerobars. For real. Anything he posts, I read. And from what I can tell, you've attracted a group much like yourself .

Oh, I bet you say that to all the male mentors. Where's the blush font? 



2008-01-30 3:31 PM
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Recovery drinks- I have a friend who swears by R4- Endurox (sp?).   I may have to try it soon.  I pretty much just make sure Im eating some protien with my carbs and try to eat asap helps me too.   Chocolate milk is yummy, yogurt works, cereal with milk is another fav.
2008-01-30 6:44 PM
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Hi there, I'd like to join! TriAya sent me here, hope its okay. I just turned 41 and am about to begin a 2nd season of tri-ing. My big race this year is Vineman in July. I've 3 sprints and an Olympic and 4 marathons in there too this past year. I am extremely single. I have a 12 year old daughter. I have a little doggie and two cats. Currently, I am trying to get the plan going and doing some sort of work out every day except Mondays and Fridays. My weakest slowest scariest link is the bike. What else?

I apologize for not reading the entire thread at this very moment - I plan to later this evening. I have a 12 year old that needs homework help!

Thanks!
2008-01-30 6:55 PM
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DoloresM2 - 2008-01-30 6:44 PM Hi there, I'd like to join! TriAya sent me here, hope its okay. I just turned 41 and am about to begin a 2nd season of tri-ing. My big race this year is Vineman in July. I've 3 sprints and an Olympic and 4 marathons in there too this past year. I am extremely single. I have a 12 year old daughter. I have a little doggie and two cats. Currently, I am trying to get the plan going and doing some sort of work out every day except Mondays and Fridays. My weakest slowest scariest link is the bike. What else? I apologize for not reading the entire thread at this very moment - I plan to later this evening. I have a 12 year old that needs homework help! Thanks!

Hey Dolores!  You're welcome into the group, but just be sure to read my opening post describing my mentor style and if you still want in - your IN!   Vineman is on my "some day I'm racing there" list.  What plan are you thinking of using for your upcoming season?  What exactly is it about the bike leg that is giving you problems?  What type of bike do you have?  Feel free to ask any questions.  WELCOME!

2008-01-30 8:08 PM
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For those of you who have done marathons- what zone was your HR in?
2008-01-30 8:33 PM
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tripletmom01 - 2008-01-30 8:08 PM

For those of you who have done marathons- what zone was your HR in?


Well Tammy, just don't do what I did! Check in my log, I've posted my pace & HR profile from Disney. I ran it around 5-10 beats below my LTHR of 178-ish. I recall looking at my pace on my Polar watch in the first 10k thinking "this pace is just stupid! I'm going way too fast and hard." Because I wasn't acclimated to the warm/humid conditions and I wasn't able to get in a warm-up, I should have started out easier and build into the run.

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billgeist - 2008-01-29 10:42 PM

Just wondering if other people use recovery drinks. I tend to only use them if I do a long workout, generally longer than 1.5 to 2 hours. Do you use a recovery drink? And if so, do you use it after all your workouts?


I use Endurox R4 mainly for long (3+ hrs) or very hard sessions (1.5+ hrs). I started using it long ago when I used to race mtn bikes, all my buddies used it. I like the taste, but I also use other stuff (clif bar, yogurt, choco milk, etc) as alternatives to mix things up.

The important part for me is to get the 4:1 carb-protein ratio, and replenish the depleted glycogen within 30 mins after these long or hard workouts. I really liked R4 for the convenience factor. I usually can get water easily, so all I needed was a baggie of it after races or workouts.

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2008-01-30 8:49 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking I'll need another day or two, hopefully that's it!
2008-01-31 9:09 AM
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Hi Tammy,

Can you specify your goals for the Marathon, is it to finish, Sub xx, Boston qualifier else?
Also if you can advise how did you prep it can help.

One of my friends here with PR of 2:31h will advise

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2008-01-31 9:35 AM
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Welcome to the group Dolores!

Tammy, I don't use a HR monitor. I guess that run more by feel.
2008-01-31 9:37 AM
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Zvika,

What does your new profile image say? It is too small for me to read.


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It's a Canadian Billboard -

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Hi! So this group is still accepting folks?

This is my second season. I'm a 48 year old mother of 5 grown kids (glad to see tripletmom in the group). I couldn't run around the block in January 2007. I lost (and kept off) 22 pounds last year. Still could stand to lose 10 more. I'm using Weight Watchers. Last year's races: Charleston Cooper River Bridge 10K, Nashville Country Music Half Marathon, Charleston Sprint Triathlon Series (2 races), Mini-Musselman (sprint), SC Half Iron Distance, Savannah Sprint (age group winner), Kiawah Half Marathon.

Was scheduled for my first marathon in February, but was laid up with cervical disk bone spurs in December/January. I've been gradually building back up to doing some light running, spinning/cycling, swimming. Today the specialist cleared me for all activities! Which is great, because I'm registered for Ironman Florida in November!

I'm WAY SLOW in all three disciplines, but what I lack in speed I make up in spirit!! Limiters: Bike endurance, swim technique. Working now on Total Immersion drills through book/DVD.

I have an informal coach and a great group I practice with. I like BT because I can ask questions when there's no one physically around to give me answers! And I always have lots of questions!
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The MAIN goal of my marathon is to go into IM with the "been there, done that" attitude about the run... I know they will be two completetly different runs but I need to know I can do it.

BUT... my training for the marathon has gone well and I am pretty sure I can do a sub 4.  BQ  for me is 3:45- which would be awesome- but not really my intention (well not this time ) but it will be in the back of my brain if things are going well.  The course IS very hilly so that may make a difference too?
I have followed the Hal Higdeon Adavnced 1 program- its 6 days of running (I usually did 1 recovery day of swimming instead of running) I will have done three 20 mile runs with a 10 miler the day before of each of them.... my pace for my long runs has been about 9:00-9:05.

 

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2008-01-31 4:20 PM
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Hi Dolores and Sunfish

Yeah two more girls.....

Sunfish I have been thinking about doing SC HIM...maybe in 2009

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tripletmom01 - 2008-01-30 8:08 PM For those of you who have done marathons- what zone was your HR in?

I don't have any HR data from any of my stand alone marathons.  I haven't used HR to dictate my marathon strategy.  Before going into a race I know what finish time I'm capable of and race solely on min/mile pace.  Sorry I don't have any data for 'ya



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Well I dont usually WEAR a HRM anyway...it always falls off (but thats another story) but I kind of know what pace I am in at certain HRs...you know.  Just not really sure what pace I will be able to sustain...all of my long runs have been on tired legs.  I have 30 days to figure it out
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What's your most recent 10k or 15k, or half race time where you felt like you had a decent race?  I'm getting ready for a run, so don't have time to look thru your race reports.  From those, I can use Daniels' tables to give you a guestimate time to shoot for - beats guessing...I guess.
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You actually figured that our for me, I think before this group started, and said I could do like a 3:36 an 8:15 pace...which is probaly not in my capabilities..although it sounds damn nice.  I ran 9 at a 8:20 pace on Saturday and dont think I could do that for another 17 miles.  No biggie- Im just strategizing my race- um my run.  Its kind of a big deal for me and will take any advice into consideration
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The same as Birki Before going into a race I know what finish time I'm capable of and race solely on min/mile pace. last HM I used Pace Wristband 1:45h which is 8 minute/mile and adjusted my pace as I went...finished 1:45:04 !

Marathon Guide http://www.marathonguide.com/fitnesscalcs/PaceBandCreator.cfm

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