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2011-03-10 9:14 AM
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ELLEN -

I will do a quick one here, just in case you're about to trundle off to the pool.

Ideally, one uses their hand as their forearm as pulling surfaces, and the trick is to "hold" as much water as you can with this surface, letting as little water as possible "slip".

Here's what I want you to try. Bend forward at the waist so your upper body is parallel to the floor, and stick both arms out in front of you, pointing straight to the wall. Now, leave one arm out there, but with the other one pivot your forarm and hand straight down -- while moving your elbow as little as possible. That is, your elbow should still be high, just slightly lower than you ear. So as you peer at it sideways, you see your upper arm going straight out from your dshoulder, and then the forearm forms a 90-degree angle with your fingers pointing straight down to the floor.

Got it?

Now, just gently move move that whole unit -- upper arm, lower arm, hand -- back and forth, kind of a sweeping motion. And keep the elbow high! (The pivoting is coming from the shoulder.) If your arms work like mine, the pitch of your forearm/hand should not change much, and the fingetrtips will remain pointing mostly straight down. Yes?

Next, drop your elbow about 3-5 inches, and see what happens. First, your forearm/hand lose that vertical straightness, with the fingers now tending to point more forward. That is, as your elbow drops so too does your upper arm, and when that happens the forearm/hand slide forward some. (That is, your forearm is no longer perpendicular to the water surface, but has formed an angle with it [size of angle dependent on the prson])

Now, in this new position pull your arm forewards and backwards, making sure to keep the elbow in that lowered position. You should be noticing two things: (1) the forearm/hand is hard to keep straight down, which means that you have less surface area to work with, and that lalows more water to "slip" past, and (2) that as you pull back, the elbow is clearly leading. These two are closely related of course, but the simple connection is that when the elbow is dropped it is put in the position of leading the catch, and that isn't beneficial because in the dropped position it is preventing the forearm and hand to work thier best as pulling surfaces.

One more thing to try is to go back and forth a few times with the two maneuvers above, First, do the high elbow one and see how it feels as you move the unit. Now try it with the dropped elbow; does it feel kind of weak by comparison? For me, it is a very obvious difference. One of the things that is happening ere is that by using the high elbow in this movement you are actually tapping into your lats and your trapezius and pectorals. When the elbow is down, those "big movers" are largely removed from the equation, and it becomes more of a triceps and biceps thing, not to mention the shoulder joint itself. And while the triceps and biceps are "pretty" muscles, they are neither big nor especially powerful for swimming purposes.

Please, pleas, PLEASE let me know what you think of all of the above!!! Were you able to see and feel any of those differences I'm hoping were apparent to you? If not, I will try to explain it again!

Later I will try to explain a possible remedy for this, but for now it involves a kind of breaststroke maneuver, but instead of sweeping outwards on the stroke, i get my arms in front of me with my face looking almost straight down, and essentially do what I said above --- elbows high (just below the water line), pivot forearm/hand downwards, and pull back. If you do this you will find that you can only pull so far, like really just about to your hiops is all. This is because you aren't rotating, so unless your have hyper-flexible shoulders that's as far back as you can go. BUT, this is all about getting that good, strong catch right at the top of your stroke, and then keeping the elbows high as your pull back with your forearm and hand working together to create a long and strong pulling surface.

That too, then --- tell me what you think!

And..........more later! Glub!








2011-03-10 9:26 AM
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LORI -

How long is the long run on Saturday? If your roads are mostly clear and aren't concrete (the grey stuff), then I think you can do pretty much whatever you want outside. I see the benefits of treadmills, but I also feel that my stride is altered some whenever I am on one. So, for the sake of preserving my stride, I usaully think i am better off running on good old terra firma.

How hilly is the run route for Saturday......and does this worry you at all? If you have sopent the winter on the 'mill at mostly no grade or low grade, and if you are looking at a hilly route, then that might be tough for your calves and hammies to take on the uphillsm, the quads to handle on the downhills. If that's the course and the case, then you might want to switch things around so you do a couple of shorter hilly runs before trying a long hilly one.

PLEASE be careful with the paddles tomorrow! 35 x 50 is a LOT of paddle yards, and I don't think my shoulders could accept that too happily at all. But if you must, do it all slowly --- don't try to blaze through the water with them! That is, don't use them as speed tools, but rather as technique aids. And especially for the Finis Freestylers, allow them to do what they do best, which is to help you extend your reach just a wee bit further. So when the arm is extending, just aim for a tiny bit more extension.....and then begin your catch out there. Doing so will give you that extra inch or two to pull against, which is good --- but wuth those paddels, don't pull with all you are worth. Again, this shouldn't be about speed, but rather about form and efficiency!



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GANG!

For those interested in high elbows during the pull phase of the swim, see the post at the top of this page to Ellen.



2011-03-10 10:25 AM
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??Can someone tell me how to paste a link in? I copy it but when I try to paste it nothing appears.  I'm sure I am doing something wrong but I don't know what.

Thanks.

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2011-03-10 1:30 PM
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stevebradley - 2011-03-10 9:26 AM LORI - How long is the long run on Saturday? If your roads are mostly clear and aren't concrete (the grey stuff), then I think you can do pretty much whatever you want outside. I see the benefits of treadmills, but I also feel that my stride is altered some whenever I am on one. So, for the sake of preserving my stride, I usaully think i am better off running on good old terra firma. How hilly is the run route for Saturday......and does this worry you at all? If you have sopent the winter on the 'mill at mostly no grade or low grade, and if you are looking at a hilly route, then that might be tough for your calves and hammies to take on the uphillsm, the quads to handle on the downhills. If that's the course and the case, then you might want to switch things around so you do a couple of shorter hilly runs before trying a long hilly one. PLEASE be careful with the paddles tomorrow! 35 x 50 is a LOT of paddle yards, and I don't think my shoulders could accept that too happily at all. But if you must, do it all slowly --- don't try to blaze through the water with them! That is, don't use them as speed tools, but rather as technique aids. And especially for the Finis Freestylers, allow them to do what they do best, which is to help you extend your reach just a wee bit further. So when the arm is extending, just aim for a tiny bit more extension.....and then begin your catch out there. Doing so will give you that extra inch or two to pull against, which is good --- but wuth those paddels, don't pull with all you are worth. Again, this shouldn't be about speed, but rather about form and efficiency!

I will definitely heed your advice on the paddles!  I may throw in 50% pulls instead of doing all of it with paddles.  Does that sound like a good idea?

I have a 70 minute long run on Saturday.  I run mostly on black top surfaces with just some concrete sidewalks.  So, maybe 1/3 of the run on concrete sidewalks?  If the weather forecast says true (snow and rain), I may do the run on the TM.

We did our third time trial in bike class today.  I averaged the same 19 MPH for 30 minutes but did so at a few less watts.  Speed is a little elusive for me. 

2011-03-10 1:31 PM
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A fifty dollar wet suit. I've read a great deal about triathlon wet suits. I appreciate the significance of getting what you pay for and of using the right suit for the job. However, the $50-$100 wet suits at Academy sports are tempting, especially this year. I understand they offer "some" buoyancy and some help with the temperature. I understand they may be limiting in range of motion etc. I am looking at maybe 2 or 3 events this year where I will need one, plus they times I train with it. 

Assuming I try one on and feel okay about my arm motion, should I go for it for the short term until I can spend the bucks on a tri specific suit? The other option is renting one, but I feel like getting familiar with my own suit makes sense.

 Water temps here will start going up soon ...I am anxious to get some OW swims in.



2011-03-10 3:19 PM
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Steve, Thank you for the detailed reply.  I will try it out tomorrow. Today has not been kind to training since I was not able to get to the pool at lunch time.  Now I have to teach so I am going to try to get some weights in before that (but no swim).

I am very anxious to feel how it goes in the water.  It works great in my office.

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2011-03-10 4:50 PM
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Steve,

So when increasing cadence, I assume you're implying that there should also be an increase in speed? I could be wrong, but I can't imagine running at my current pace but moving my legs faster without there being a change in speed.

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2011-03-10 5:18 PM
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Thanks everyone for the post on proper pedaling stroke.  Will study them and start to put them in play.

Went to running store across the bay which is about 45minutes away.  I had them fit me with the best shoe for my sloppy feet.  I had 3 choices, Brooks Adrenaline GTS, Nikes and Mizuno.  I went with the Brooks since they felt the best, it was like I was not wearing shoes.  They said that my shoes I was using did not have enough support for my feet since they are wanting to slide to the inside.  I cant wait to try the new shoes out but I will need to wait until Monday.  I was running last friday and about 20 minutes into the run I eneded up getting some major shin splints.  I have not been running since, but have been riding and swimming.  Oh is there a way to put in House Cleaning into my log.  I spent 3 hours this morning deep cleaning, cutting grass and cleaning the garage.  We had someone come by and look at our house since its up for sale.  We are trying to sale the home beause in Jan we are going to a 1 income since my wife will be doing her student teaching 16 weeks.  She is going to graduate in may 2012 with her Masters in Elementary Education.

2011-03-10 5:54 PM
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LORI -

&0 minutes doesn't sound too demanding for you, and given that you don't mention hellacious hills, all the better. If you can bump that 1/3 concrete down some, that would be preferable; every single % helps! (Not just now, but always.)

As for paddles, modifying some will definitely be appreciated by your shoulders! Mayeb start off with an easy warm-up (300-500y), then go to paddles for whatever number of 50s seems prudent to you. Then do another 300-500 and see how the shoulder feels. If it's right around 100%, then you're probably okay to continue with some more paddle work.

And speaking of paddles, I did some interesting paddle work of my own today. I started with a pair of Speedo ones from way-back-when, ones I loved for several years. Toady, though, they felt "unsatble" -- for lack of a better word. They were kind of moving my hand in ways I didn't want it to track, and I think I will just leave them at the pool as a gift of sorts. I then wnet to a pair of Zuma (?) ones that I bought maybe 7 years ago as an alternative to the Speeedo ones, but i never liked them at the time. I can't remember why that was, but today they felt awesome, especially in accenting my catch and pull. It was a paddle-feel I haven't had before. Finally I went to my tried-and-true ones for maybe the past four years, the Finis freestyler. After the Zuma (I don't think that is right!!)ones, I did not enjoy the Finis at all -- they just felt cumbersome and didn't accent my desired pull as well as the....other ones did. At the end of the session I went back to the....other ones, and loved them again. I've got me a new BFF, paddle-wise!

But this makes me think about all that is out, and how tantalizing it is to think about their different feels and benefits. I'm sorely tempted to buy a new pair of paddles, just to sample something new and (hopefully) thrilling.

My guess is 100m with the Speedo, 50m with the Finis, and maybe 250-300m with the.....other pair.

Splish-splash!


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Interesting notes about hand / forearm position while swimming Steve.  Thank you.  I will have to pay attention to that.  I think I get what you are talking about, seemed pretty straight forward, at least while thinking about it... executing might be a little harder.

 

About copying notes to the first page, what I mean is

 

1) find the useful link in someones post

2) highlight and copy it (right click, click copy)

3) Go to the first page, your first post and click the [edit] button at the top

4) scroll to the bottom of your post, right click and paste.  Maybe make a note above it about what the link leads to.

 

I'd offer to do it, but I don't have a post on the first page.


2011-03-10 6:01 PM
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ELLEN -

You're welcome.......and I am VERY glad you didn't go to the pool today! That's because I don't think I said that what you were doing standing up and bending forward will not work as perfectly in the water -- especially the part about keeping your elbows THAT high. In saying that I'm assuming you don't have enormously flexible shoulders, and that will restrict you by an inch or maybe two as to how high you can carry them AND affect a decent pull.

But as how as you can comfortably go will help, as you maybe sensed as you worked through those "dry-land" maneuvers. Just do them slow and easy, and don't expect miracles right away. you also might want to try it with a pull buoy, just so you can isolate that front part of your stroke.

I have a couple more things to say about all this, but I'll leave it here for now so you can focus on the stuff already on the table (deck?).



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It's been a tough week workout-wise. I'm technically supposed to start week 1 of training this week and I'm sort of on track, but not entirely. It scares me that even in week 1 I'm having trouble getting everything in. I must just still be exhausted from my weekend away and hopefully next week will be easier.

I slept through my usual Tuesday morning swim workout, even though I had gone to bed about 5 pm the night before. Like I said, the weekend had wiped me out, apparently, and I needed my sleep. So I went to a different session at noon that same day to make it up and it was super hard. I think I just got disheartened because I was getting passed by everyone (no lane to myself this time). It's easier to ignore everyone when I have my own lane and my roommate is swimming alongside me. I can pretend I'm not nearly as slow as I really am. So since this was just frustrating, I left 15 minutes early pretending I had to be somewhere at 1...not the case at all. I wish I had finished the workout but at that point it was just junk laps since I wasn't pushing myself or working on drills, and instead just swimming to make the time pass. I would equate it to walking while going on a run, which to me seemed like a waste of time. So I left.

Wednesday I spent a good 30 minutes lying on the couch talking myself into going running. It was definitely a debate. But then I thought about the Oly last summer and its horrendisnous (I just made up a word) and that was the argument that got me out the door. I REALLY want to do that tri again, but I'm not going to register if I'm not properly trained, especially in running. So if I want to do it (which I do), I need to run beginning now. So I did. I even lengthened the run by a few intervals to make it more than 25 minutes, which is what my tri training plan called for, but not my Couch to 10k plan. My legs felt super heavy throughout so that was the limiting factor in my speed, but overall it wasn't too bad. I didn't tire myself out so much that I never want to run again.

And this morning I skipped out on swimming again, this time with no plans to make it up. I would if I had the time, but I don't, so I might save it for Sunday or something. Or just let it go. We'll see.

Tomorrow is biking, which I'm really excited about (high if 62!) and then Saturday I have a rugby game, so I'll consider that my run. Depending on how I'm feeling on Sunday, I'll go on a ride or a swim (I need both equally) or just relax in the yard and rest up. I don't know yet. That one I'm going to play by ear.

As you can see, my heart is not in it this week, and it's been a struggle getting out the door. But for the most part, I did force myself to work out, so I do have some mental toughness that I hope will get me through more of these difficult days.

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2011-03-10 6:15 PM
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JEFF -

I just tried to find out something about wetsuits at Academy Sports, but failed. So, my thouight is that it's a very good price, but make sure you are getting a wetsuit thta is designed for swimming, as opposed to surfing or scubaing. Do you know which companies they carry at that price? Try to find out and then let me know, okay?

I suspect because you also mention tri-specific suits, the ones at Academy are not. If this is the case, then trying a wetsuit made for a different purpose might be like trying to learn how an SUV ahndles by driving a Chevette. Or something like that. Again, though, find out what they have and let me know brands and models.



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Adam,

So glad to hear that you and your family are alright after that accident. Looks like your car took the majority of the impact and spared you guys.

And on a happier training note, congrats on running consecutively for so long. You seem to be getting that endurance up nicely.

Kasia

2011-03-10 6:46 PM
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Steve,

Here is the link to my training plan. It works on this computer but not the one I tried earlier. I guess I have some setting wrong.  So, I need to modify this to one that is a little more realistic.  I guess I can go back to the training page and see what they come up with next.  I never meant to give them the impression that I was actually in shape or anything like that. I need to work my way into the plan but May is coming. It seems to be getting here faster than I had anticipated.  Well, I will be as ready as I can be but you are correct in that if I over do it now, it won't matter then.

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index-monthly.asp?type=train&memberid=139189&year=&month=&day=

Ellen



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KASIA -

Well, yes and no. The ultimate goal of increasd cadence is improved speed, but as you learn to do it you should put on blinders about speed. At least that's my 2 cents on it, as the focus on speed can just undercut the "purity" of the technique shift.

Moreover, as Duncan has discovered, it is not easy to sustain an increased cadence. So, early on, it is entirely possible that you can do periods of increased cadence.....and still not see time improvements when you consult your watch. And if speed becomes the driving goal, then discouragement can set in and that never helps anything.

It is also possible to increase cadence and not go faster, just because you are trying to keep the same pace, but with "faster feet". This is a good experiment to perform, in fact, where you maintain your pace but increase your foot speed. I used the word "purity" up above, and when I do this that's how it feels to me --- no static from other concerns, just faster feet.

Play with this stuff and see what happens. Start with an HONEST assesssment of your foot speed -- no padding it at all. Do a few minutes easy warm-up, then count both feet's footstrikes for a minute; this'll be your baseline. If it's 80, then on the next run try a minute at a perceived SLIGHTLY faster cadence. If it's 82 or 83 (or even 81), that's good, that's enough! Then try to remember what that felyt like, and do it two or three more times that run -- but always just for a minute, and then come back to your baseline pattern.

Clip-clop!



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KASIA again -

The short-term goal is a brisk clip-clop-clip-clop-clip-clop......then onwards to pitterpatterpitterpatterpitterpatter! Eureka!!



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Steve,

Skip the last one I overwrote it with a better/slower build program. This is the link. Since I am going to do a half marathon in May I will have to run more than the plan calls for. That will probably be good.  Let me know if you think this looks reasonable. Thanks a bunch.

Ellen

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index-monthly.asp?type=train&year=2011&month=3&day=13&memberid=139189&setstrength=0&setplanned=1&setnutrition=0

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GEORGE -

There is never a guarantee with shoes, but the way you describe your feet, and the assessment the shoe store made of not enough support, makes their recommendation of the Adrenaline a great choice. It is a so-called stability shoe, and is very highly regarded -- right up there with the Asics 2100-series in that category. I hope they work well for you, and my good betting money says they will.

Shin splints, eh? How're you treating it? One effective technique is to get a styrofoam cup and fill it 7/8 full of water, then freeze it. When you want to use it, just tear away the top part of the styrofoam, exposing about 1/2" of ice all around, and then use a circular motio to massage the affected area. Do this for 5-10 minutes, maybe 3-4 times a day. and it should help. Depending oin how vigorous you are with it, you may need to expose more ice each session. Also, make sure you have a cloth or a stack of newspapers under your feet for the drippity-drip-drip. In race season I keep a couple of styrofoam ice caps in the freezer all the time.


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GEORGE -

There is never a guarantee with shoes, but the way you describe your feet, and the assessment the shoe store made of not enough support, makes their recommendation of the Adrenaline a great choice. It is a so-called stability shoe, and is very highly regarded -- right up there with the Asics 2100-series in that category. I hope they work well for you, and my good betting money says they will.

Shin splints, eh? How're you treating it? One effective technique is to get a styrofoam cup and fill it 7/8 full of water, then freeze it. When you want to use it, just tear away the top part of the styrofoam, exposing about 1/2" of ice all around, and then use a circular motio to massage the affected area. Do this for 5-10 minutes, maybe 3-4 times a day. and it should help. Depending oin how vigorous you are with it, you may need to expose more ice each session. Also, make sure you have a cloth or a stack of newspapers under your feet for the drippity-drip-drip. In race season I keep a couple of styrofoam ice caps in the freezer all the time.




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stevebradley - 2011-03-10 7:14 AM ELLEN - I will do a quick one here, just in case you're about to trundle off to the pool. Ideally, one uses their hand as their forearm as pulling surfaces, and the trick is to "hold" as much water as you can with this surface, letting as little water as possible "slip". Here's what I want you to try. Bend forward at the waist so your upper body is parallel to the floor, and stick both arms out in front of you, pointing straight to the wall. Now, leave one arm out there, but with the other one pivot your forarm and hand straight down -- while moving your elbow as little as possible. That is, your elbow should still be high, just slightly lower than you ear. So as you peer at it sideways, you see your upper arm going straight out from your dshoulder, and then the forearm forms a 90-degree angle with your fingers pointing straight down to the floor. Got it? Now, just gently move move that whole unit -- upper arm, lower arm, hand -- back and forth, kind of a sweeping motion. And keep the elbow high! (The pivoting is coming from the shoulder.) If your arms work like mine, the pitch of your forearm/hand should not change much, and the fingetrtips will remain pointing mostly straight down. Yes? Next, drop your elbow about 3-5 inches, and see what happens. First, your forearm/hand lose that vertical straightness, with the fingers now tending to point more forward. That is, as your elbow drops so too does your upper arm, and when that happens the forearm/hand slide forward some. (That is, your forearm is no longer perpendicular to the water surface, but has formed an angle with it [size of angle dependent on the prson]) Now, in this new position pull your arm forewards and backwards, making sure to keep the elbow in that lowered position. You should be noticing two things: (1) the forearm/hand is hard to keep straight down, which means that you have less surface area to work with, and that lalows more water to "slip" past, and (2) that as you pull back, the elbow is clearly leading. These two are closely related of course, but the simple connection is that when the elbow is dropped it is put in the position of leading the catch, and that isn't beneficial because in the dropped position it is preventing the forearm and hand to work thier best as pulling surfaces. One more thing to try is to go back and forth a few times with the two maneuvers above, First, do the high elbow one and see how it feels as you move the unit. Now try it with the dropped elbow; does it feel kind of weak by comparison? For me, it is a very obvious difference. One of the things that is happening ere is that by using the high elbow in this movement you are actually tapping into your lats and your trapezius and pectorals. When the elbow is down, those "big movers" are largely removed from the equation, and it becomes more of a triceps and biceps thing, not to mention the shoulder joint itself. And while the triceps and biceps are "pretty" muscles, they are neither big nor especially powerful for swimming purposes. Please, pleas, PLEASE let me know what you think of all of the above!!! Were you able to see and feel any of those differences I'm hoping were apparent to you? If not, I will try to explain it again! Later I will try to explain a possible remedy for this, but for now it involves a kind of breaststroke maneuver, but instead of sweeping outwards on the stroke, i get my arms in front of me with my face looking almost straight down, and essentially do what I said above --- elbows high (just below the water line), pivot forearm/hand downwards, and pull back. If you do this you will find that you can only pull so far, like really just about to your hiops is all. This is because you aren't rotating, so unless your have hyper-flexible shoulders that's as far back as you can go. BUT, this is all about getting that good, strong catch right at the top of your stroke, and then keeping the elbows high as your pull back with your forearm and hand working together to create a long and strong pulling surface. That too, then --- tell me what you think! And..........more later! Glub!

Steve,

That makes perfect sense to me, I've been hearing the high elbow stuff for over a year and was never really getting it.  thanks.

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stevebradley - 2011-03-10 4:15 PM JEFF - I just tried to find out something about wetsuits at Academy Sports, but failed. So, my thouight is that it's a very good price, but make sure you are getting a wetsuit thta is designed for swimming, as opposed to surfing or scubaing. Do you know which companies they carry at that price? Try to find out and then let me know, okay? I suspect because you also mention tri-specific suits, the ones at Academy are not. If this is the case, then trying a wetsuit made for a different purpose might be like trying to learn how an SUV ahndles by driving a Chevette. Or something like that. Again, though, find out what they have and let me know brands and models.

Steve,

I can't believe you busted out the Chevette reference, the youngsters in the group are thinking huh!

2011-03-10 9:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED

I suspect the wetsuits are for wakeboarders/windsurfers that sort of thing, Ill check them out.

I did a 29:00 flat 5k tonight (3.06 actually) My fastest in a very long time. No pain of any note either, ankle was fine, no real pin in my thigh. I tried for negative splits but sort of flubbed that:

1-11:13 2-8:46(!) 3.06-9:01

Now if I could only do that in a race

2011-03-10 9:54 PM
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KASIA -

Ya done okay, kid, ya done okay!

Some days and weeks don't click, and as you say, you were coming off a tough weekend. I think you did two things really well on Tuesday --- go to a different swim sessin to make-up for the missed one, and bail on that second one when you felt that it had degenerated into junk lengths. I've said this before but I'll say it again -- the absolute worse thing an aspiring swimmer can do is continue to swim when they know it's not working for them, because it's at those times when form is falling apart and the bad habits sprout like mushrooms after a downpour.

You also did well to get out for the run, and it sounds like it went a fair bit better than you'd both planned and hoped for. Just curious -- what was the diff between the two plans for that run. Not seeing what the Couch-to-10km one requested, a compromise between the two sounds reasonable!

As for the bike, i hope -- and I am sure -- it will go well for you. We both know that's your love in this stuff, so make the most of it!

As for a Sunday swim, is thta one that would be just on your own? That is, not a Masters group? If so, that might be just what you need -- a session where you call your own shots and don't have to feel intimidated by the other swimmers. I support the Masters program for you -- but not if it is undermining your confidence and making you dread attending. As I said before, any number of those other swimmers were just like you are now back when they began, and you just have to have confidence that with diligence and focus you can eventually be swimming assuredly in one of those other lanes!

As for mental toughness ---- I would never ever question that you have that in spades!





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