The Mysterious Dark Arts - l'acte 2 (Page 9)

Good Morning Cat,

Although it is prob. not morning there. Anyway, I was tracking you down to see if you could look at our spreadsheet...Creepy Clowns. We are keeping it updated but I can not figure out how to get the % to calculate. They did it auto. before but this weeks are not doing it. Help, please??  Thanks so much. And geesh, you guys are chatty Have a good day/night.

Chris

'Morning Dark Arts.

It's so not cool that some creepy clown got toppage.

That would be so unlike you

Your heart rate range based off a formula.  You use a HR monitor to keep track.  I train using a particular formula.

According to Jorge (amiine), a BTer and a coach, he utilizes a strategy/plan, below:

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First you have define how are you basing your heart rate zones otherwise you are going to get different responses and confusion.

You can base your HR zones on Max HR which is the most widely used but not most accurate because: some athletes use the 220- age or 180- age formulas to determine it and the values can be very inaccurate for different individuals. If an athlete performs a Max test, those are very stressful on the body hence not everyone is capable of pushing to their true max. Plus Max HR is more a genetic function rather than a fitness/performance indicator.

You can base your HR zone on VO2 max but to obtain your real value you need to do lab test which can be expensive and still the results can be misleading as certain equipment is not very reliable (You can do field testing to get close guesstimates as well). The problem with VO2 is that same as max HR it is more a genetic function rather than a fitness/performance indicator because while having a high V02 indicates potential it doesn’t mean the athlete necessary will perform better those with lower values.

Last you can base your HR zones on lactate threshold. LT can only be tested at the lab via blood sampling but it can be tricky as some labs/professionals have different protocols and definitions (OBLA, MLSS, etc). LT scientifically defined is 1 mmol/liter above athlete’s exercise baseline which correlates with the point in which we basically switch from burning more CHO than fat for fuel and it is the consequence of your endurance capacity, it is not the cause. This can also be obtain pretty accurate via field testing and it is more trainable than VO2. LT it is a better performance predictor and the most important thing to track for endurance athletes as it provides us with a better idea of the different training adaptations achieved with training.
 
Next are the generally used training zones based on VO2 or LT. I am leaving Max HR because it is useless IMO.

Zone 1 - LTHR < 69%, VO2 - < 65%
Zone 2 - LTHR 69-83%, VO2 – 65-80%
Zone 3 - LTHR 84-94%, VO2 – 80-91%
Zone 4 - LTHR 95-105%, VO2 – 91-98%
Zone 5 - LTHR 106% >, VO2 – 98%>

BTW, your HR training zones wont changed much as you get fitter, your pace at that intensity will.

Don't know my HR for swimming and last time a tested R/B was over a year ago but for bike Z3 was 150-167 and run was155-173 both based on LT.

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But you wouldn't have it any other way, would you?

Flippin' clown, but at least they were looking for help, which is cool.

kns57 - 2008-10-13 8:58 PM

ratkat - 2008-10-13 8:56 PM

kns57 - 2008-10-13 9:51 PM 

More than an upgrade, its time for a new computer. That is what you meant, right?

Yes.... Well well... One of these days.... Or when it finally does it's last breath.... but I probably shouldn't let it get that far.

I had a computer die on me as I was doing my taxes one year. Had everything all done and was ready to send it electronically, and bam! Computer died! Had to do the taxes all over again.

OUCH!

Nope.

Well, I'm soon to be not your neighbor anymore, I'm heading back to NYC today. I guess I couldn't stay in Chicago forever

That sucks.  Did you at least get an asile set.

I'm flying standby, they'll probably put me in the coat closet.

Good morning Dark Arts.

 @ Kristen: Sorry to hear about your knee. Hope you feel better soon and that you don't have to fly in the coat closet.

@ Travis: looks like you had a breakthrough in your paper and your team won!

@ Phil: padding away and thanks for the explanations on "Z2" I was wondering about that myself.

I am in spreadsheet and month's close hell, if anybody is looking for me.

Have a great day!!! :-)

Thanks. The knee will be fine. I think I'm just getting old. It's like every time I run something new falls apart. Good times!

I'm right behind you on that one.  I keep hoping that the pains will just go away.  Of course the last time I did that I ended up needing a shoulder surgery.

Just discovered that using diagrams and charts I can eat up a lot of the paper requirements very quickly.  Doesn't seem so bad now.

Not yet.  Coach has a some kind of test for me this coming Sun. morn, though.

Or the bathroom.  Mile High, anyone?

Or shoot that stupid bird.

We had a prob w/one of our smoke detectors after trying to put new batteries in.  The thing would chirp no matter what.  Turned out we had to replace it and put in a new one.  There was a fault with it.

Watch for that.

Oh, and pretty pictures.  You GOT to have some pretty pictures.

You're welcome.

Ollie, Ollie, ALLCOMEFREE!!