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This week's training has had some highs and lows.  I have a pain deep inside my hip, almost like sciatica but not consistently in that spot.  The run seems to irritate the pain so Tuesday was HORRIBLE!  Walked most of it, and the hill I conquered the previous week killed me and I walked more than half. Wednesday was a bike day on the trainer and it worked out fine.  Last night, on the treadmill and the pain reared its ugly head once again.  Day off from training today and my weekend is filled with bike and swim.  Hopefully, a full three days off the run will help.

Pain is not normal. It's a signal something is wrong. The brain is then supposed to interpret that signal and make the body go to a doc to get checked out, or you could risk severe injury and no sport for a number of months getting into years.

Yeah, I know...BLEH!  No pain today during the swim so after a few days of no running I will see what happens on Monday's run.  If it is still there then I will head over to medical.  Thanks for the input though.

Hey another thing, your description of snapping my wrist down and keeping my fingers pointed to my toes through the entire pull has really helped my swim.  I am not working nearly as hard as previously!  Thanks

Hope your training is going well.

What shoes are you running in, what size are your town shoes and what size are your running shoes? Do you stretch? Have you ever had disc problems or been assessed for gait?  

My running shoes and town shoes are the same size. I run in Clima cools by Addias and only run in those shoes.  I don't use them for anything else.  No disc problems at all.  No pain at all today...but then again I did not run.  Have a 30 min run tomorrow and I will see how that goes.

Had to climb some stairs today and the last time I did it hurt, but not today.  Sooooo maybe my leg just needed rest.  Yes, I stretch but I need to get back into yoga...I do feel all bound up.  On that leg the foot has two broken bones with multiple bone spurs and arthritis so I may have hurt my leg making adjustments to my stride if my foot was bothering me.  My training, in all areas has increased and I believe this may be it; the increase in running may have been a bit much.

Have not had my gait assessed but like swimming I am working on form so things seem to always be changing.  



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My two favorite run songs this month...What are yours?

"Waiting for the End to Come" by Linken Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q

"Shake Me Down" By Cage the Elephant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=v27TRan1SBI

my favs right now are  The middle by Jimmy eat world and and Running down a dream by Tom Petty

ooooh yeah I like the Tom Petty one too! Another one from Cage the Elephant, that I like is "Ain't No Rest for the Wicked".



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I have had a lot of trainers and coaches and people more experienced that I advocate a shoe size larger than normal when running...because we put our feet under  pressure and they swell I think. Go to your local running store, and try get a size up from what you normally wear...
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Saturday- Bike 14 miles and ran 2 miles

Sunday- Swam 35 minutes, did 21 laps on a pool that was 75 feet long.  If my math is correct (and it usually is not) that would be 1050 yards.

The swimming is improving but still has a long way to go.

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Also, I changed out the battery in my heart monitor.  The last two times I rode my bike it says that my heart rate has hit 200 or higher both times.  So I think the battery was going out.  I was not even breathing hard the first time it said I hit 200.  So either it is going out or I am dead and do not know it.  Ha!



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SportzVision - 2012-01-15 10:01 PM I had no business going to the grocery store after a 1550 swim!  I was starving! Anyway a decent swim and 90 mins on the trainer today.

LOL, I seem to have the same problem Smile



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Colliewarrior - 2012-01-16 1:01 AM I have had a lot of trainers and coaches and people more experienced that I advocate a shoe size larger than normal when running...because we put our feet under  pressure and they swell I think. Go to your local running store, and try get a size up from what you normally wear...

I agree with Collie on this one.  Before I started training, I always went to a sports store and bought a shoe that was either on sale, or that looked cool.  After my training began, I was talking to a couple friends of mine and they all said the same thing, "Go get a proper running shoe!"  I decided it was best to do that to help prevent any injuries.  I went to Fleet Feet and we found a shoe that was very comfortable and it was a full size bigger than I normally wear. I love those shoes and the best part is that they weren't any more expensive than the ones in a regular sports store.

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Me too...got fitted for the first time and tried on about 15 pairs of shoes. Ended up a 1/2 size larger than normal.

Today, I had weight training in the am, swimming at lunch and will run this evening. When I start whining to myself about doing 3 workouts in a day, I just think for a sec and say...hey, you'll be doing back to back to back training without rest between on race day so suck it up and get used to it!

I have been hungry for the last few days but have been eating very well. Not to make everyone hungry, but I am thinking a filet mignon, broccoli, and a small salad is in order this week. I need some beef!

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Me too...got fitted for the first time and tried on about 15 pairs of shoes. Ended up a 1/2 size larger than normal.

Today, I had weight training in the am, swimming at lunch and will run this evening. When I start whining to myself about doing 3 workouts in a day, I just think for a sec and say...hey, you'll be doing back to back to back training without rest between on race day so suck it up and get used to it!

I have been hungry for the last few days but have been eating very well. Not to make everyone hungry, but I am thinking a filet mignon, broccoli, and a small salad is in order this week. I need some beef!

Jay

Ha!  I was just talking about this today to a coworker.  I have really had to increase my calories to try to stop losing weight.  Since I have been trying to lose weight, it is an weird feeling.  Last night I was way behind on my calories for the day so I ate two complete dinners.  

But I will say that I am eating much healthier now than before.

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Ha!  I was just talking about this today to a coworker.  I have really had to increase my calories to try to stop losing weight.  Since I have been trying to lose weight, it is an weird feeling.  Last night I was way behind on my calories for the day so I ate two complete dinners.  

But I will say that I am eating much healthier now than before.

that is a really bad way to eat, You are going to confuse your body, it will store you dinners as fat.. and make you unhappy... eat small and often...

 

Right, so my knee blew up again today........Off running for while..looks like my year is shot before it begins

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Sorry to hear about the knee. What happened? I take it this has happened before.


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SportzVision - 2012-01-15 10:01 PM I had no business going to the grocery store after a 1550 swim!  I was starving! Anyway a decent swim and 90 mins on the trainer today.

LOL, I seem to have the same problem Smile

me too

 

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Sorry to hear about the knee.  I think you said it right.  What a way to start the year.
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plumline387 - 2012-01-17 3:28 AM Sorry to hear about the knee. What happened? I take it this has happened before.

 

I tore my miniscus and damaged the ligament... from bad fitting shoes on the bike.. and lack of muscular strength.......that simple, but also very very complicated to get it fixed. 

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that is a really bad way to eat, You are going to confuse your body, it will store you dinners as fat.. and make you unhappy... eat small and often...

I will try to do better.  Thanks for the comment.

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On a brighter note, I still have not had any soda.  It has now been 2-3 weeks.  This is an all time record.


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kengood - 2012-01-17 8:32 AM On a brighter note, I still have not had any soda.  It has now been 2-3 weeks.  This is an all time record.

Great job on the soda's!  When you put your mind to it and if you want it bad enough, you can overcome almost any obstacle.

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great job on staying away from the sodas Ken

Brian I ran across this today and thought about your tired legs

 

Know the difference between “good tired” and “bad tired.” If you want to run PRs, you’ll need to do some tough workouts and it’s normal to feel tired afterward. If you’re constantly tired for days at a time, you might be overtraining. Sprinkle in more easy days until you’re back on your game.

 

 

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Colliewarrior - 2012-01-16 1:01 AM I have had a lot of trainers and coaches and people more experienced that I advocate a shoe size larger than normal when running...because we put our feet under  pressure and they swell I think. Go to your local running store, and try get a size up from what you normally wear...

I agree with Collie on this one.  Before I started training, I always went to a sports store and bought a shoe that was either on sale, or that looked cool.  After my training began, I was talking to a couple friends of mine and they all said the same thing, "Go get a proper running shoe!"  I decided it was best to do that to help prevent any injuries.  I went to Fleet Feet and we found a shoe that was very comfortable and it was a full size bigger than I normally wear. I love those shoes and the best part is that they weren't any more expensive than the ones in a regular sports store.

  Ok, I just realized my running shoes are a half size bigger than my normal shoes.  Its tough because I wear an in-between size so every shoe is different on my feet.  Another size up and I may just be able to ski the run routes!
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kengood - 2012-01-17 10:32 AM On a brighter note, I still have not had any soda.  It has now been 2-3 weeks.  This is an all time record.

YEAH!!!!!!!

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Swam 25 laps today.


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Love the three day weekend and the ability to spread my swim training out instead of cramming three days of training into two days.  However, I must push harder on that third day because I am exhausted!

This week's plan: 

R: 40 minutes. 10 minute warm up, then do 20 second strides(see week
goals) before returning to RPE 3 pace. Repeat strides every 5 minutes until
the end of the workout.
S: long day-mental toughness day!
4 x 500, odds are RPE3, evens RPE 5

R: easy pace, RPE 3
B: 60 minutes, easy pedaling on mixed terrain, overall effort still low.
Warm up and cooldown 10:00 in low ring, spinning easy. Use big ring for
middle 40.

S: race-specific
wu: 250 easy
5 x 50, odds are 100%, evens recovery. 10sec rest between
main: 2 x 400, 1 is RPE 3, 2 is RPE4, 3 is RPE 5
cd: 200 easy

R: 60 minute long run, easy pace. Strides begin at the 40 minute mark.
Just like Monday, go for 20 seconds, then return to normal pace. Repeat
every 5 minutes until run is finished. Stretch well!

S: speed day
wu: 300 continuous. slowly increasing pace each 100
main: 20 x 50, odds at RPE 4, evens at RPE 9!
cd: 150 easy, hold form
B: solid 45 minutes at RPE3. Middle 30 minutes on aero bars if you have
them, but keep easy effort. Notice if the position is comfortable to hold and
if you can output the same speed for the same effort as when out of the bars.

B: 90 minutes long bike again this week.



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Artist - 2012-01-17 11:26 AM

great job on staying away from the sodas Ken

Brian I ran across this today and thought about your tired legs

Know the difference between “good tired” and “bad tired.” If you want to run PRs, you’ll need to do some tough workouts and it’s normal to feel tired afterward. If you’re constantly tired for days at a time, you might be overtraining. Sprinkle in more easy days until you’re back on your game. 

Thanks for the link, there are some good pointers on that page!  I ended up taking the entire weekend off(we are moving at the end of the month and it's been superrrrr cold here) and by Sunday morning my body felt great. No soreness or stiffness of any kind, soooo I HAVE to learn to incorporate one day off per week.

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Cynthia,

Pretty heavy schedule you have there. I assume you have done this before since you have some longer distances in there. What length race are you training for? Also, stupid question...what does RPE stand for?

Jay

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Collie,

Sorry to hear about the knee. Will it require surgery or just rest and healing time? I hope you have a quick recovery.
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