mcgilmartin's 2013 Mentor Group~ let's get swimming! CLOSED FOR TRAINING (Page 9)

We absolutely did have that bet!  ha!    actually sorry :-(    I goofed.  I forgot you are going the road bike route.  ugh  brain fart.     A road bike is  MUCH easier to size up.   

There is nothing wrong with ending up with a road bike and a tri bike.    

Do you think if the witch got a bike fitting, she could have had a better position on the bike?

Forget fit.. lose that hat and her aerodynamics would improve dramatically.

I should get a basket like the one she has on the back - it's smaller than my "special needs" pouch. That would probably hold enough gel for me to make it through a sprint distance!

So I finally got back into the pool after about forever.  Yesterday went exactly according to plan - just not mine.  I got home late on a crowded train and there was a minor crisis at home - nothing bad, just a little more than the usual day to day drama.

And then today when I get to the gym - its aqua-fit time.  That delayed the swim for a half hour while I was on the treadmill while watching for the pool to empty.  And then - 700 yards and I'm exhausted.

LOL  You guys make me laugh. A tri suit would help more than the hat.  Her dress is like a sail. 

Road bike news...I actually got a call back from the fitting place saying they overbooked so my new appt is for Monday.  However I got another call back from one of the used bike places in town.  He has a bike that may be a sweet deal for me.  It's not in inventory yet because they are refurbishing it.  It is an older specialized with an 8 speed shifter (allez pro).  According to him it has Ultegra quality components and he is going to sell it for $600.  I'm going to check it out on Thursday.  It is supposed to be a 2006 model which sold for over $2000 new.  We will see.  The shop makes everything on the bike new and gives a great guarantee so there is hope. I'll keep you guys posted as I know you are holding your breath.

Sounds like a great deal!   Hope this works out for you.   Did you ask them about installing fenders and a basket? maybe they will throw it in on the deal.    Or hey a kickstand! 

Ever see the movie "American Flyers"?  (Kevin Costner in like his first movie)     They ride red Specialized Allez      I remember when the movie came out, I thought those were the coolest bikes ever.      It's s super corny movie, but it's a total classic that you will treasure.

Ok curious  who has seen it and who has not?

And no bottle cage.  Hope she has hydration.  oh ya right water baaaaadddd......  

well ya there's that and  here is the trophy!  

Hi Matt

Thanks for replying. What are time trials ? Just get in the pool and cover 500/1000/1500 meters as fast as possible ? Rest in between allowed ? What consititues a good/bad time trial ?

Thanks

Max

Max, yes, a time trial is just that.  It's a way to set a benchmark for yourself.  If you want to warm up, go ahead.  The idea is to gauge your fitness at any given point in time.  Take the distance and cover it in as little time as possible.  If you need a break, take one.  Make sure to not stop the clock when you do so.  You're gauging your own fitness level and stroke technique.

Good/bad/ugly times?  No such thing for this.  Just be honest with yourself and record your honest time.  You'll appreciate it later.

That must be part of the pot next year.  Post that over in the thread!

BTW- did you know that Old Style was the official sponsor of the Chicago Marathon for a few years back in the 80's?

Hi Coach

No warm-up.

500m TT : 14min49s

1000m TT : 31min17s (continued from 500m)

Have a long swim planned on Saturday. Will do the 1500m one then and report back.

How do we go from here ?

Max

Excellent.  I'll get you a workout today.  Thanks for doing this!  I'm fighting a cold right now (again!) but I'll be doing TTs this week too.

Matt I will will be doing the TT also and sending you the info.  It looks like with my schedule I won't hit the pool until this weekend.  Timing seems to be my achilles heel lately.

Hope you get to feeling better.

Just got back form the pool for today, here's what I ended up with:

500yd-10.07

1000yd-20.11

1500yd - 30.21

Awesome.  So I just started reading up on T-Pace (your benchmark pace) and there's some discussion as to whether you should do three time trials to get a more accurate picture.  As you are well aware, your performance can change on a day-to-day basis.  Given that you guys are new to swimming, I'm going to assume that you're content with basing your T-pace off these single time trials.

http://www.active.com/triathlon/Articles/Set-a-Training-Benchmark-with-a-Swim-Time-Trial

This article is worth a read nonetheless.

Jeremy, this is really impressive!  You maintained the same pace through 3 different distances.  Were you saving yourself on the 500 and 1000?  How much time did you take in between sets?

Me, that's fine that you didn't do the 1500.  We know we need to build your endurance

Thanks.. its nice to hear from someone who knows how to swim that im doing something right 

It's a continuous swim, i try and get 40 minutes in 3 times a week at lunch, i was kinda surprised when they came out even on the 500 and 1500 too, I just smacked the lap timer on my watch as i hit each distance.  I definitely felt myself kicking more towards the end of the set.  All in all I got in 1800yds in 37 minutes today just about.  I started swimming a few months back, and this is the program i followed for endurance (http://ruthkazez.com/ZeroTo1mile.html)  

I still have trouble with bilateral breathing and generally do a good imitation of drowning if i try a flip turn unfortunately, but at least it gives the receptionist at the gym a good laugh when i do try them 

Matt,

Here are my time trials from when I did those distances last month.
500 m - 14:48
1000 m - 32:42
1500 m - 52:30

These were all done on seperate sessions.

Donald

OK, so let me break down for each of you what your T-Paces are.  This is really pretty simple.  Don't sweat that the times might be bad.  If you stick to this group for 3 months you will get better.

Max:

500m TT : 14min49s

1000m TT : 31min17s (continued from 500m)

So your T-Pace on the 500m (I like that you use meters- my health club in Chicago is meters too...) is 2:53/ 100 meters

Your T-Pace for the 1000m is 3:09.

These will be your benchmark for measuring your progress going forward.  So if I give you a workout where I say "go T-Pace plus 5 seconds" you'll want to aim for 2:58 per 100 meters.  Does that make sense?

So Jeremy, yours are:

500yd-10.07

1000yd-20.11

1500yd - 30.21

You're basically a 2 minute T-pace period, regardless of the distance.  Your workouts will be easy to calculate

So Me~

Your t-pace on the 500 is 2:20- 2:21

Your 1000 t-pace is going to be 2:30-2:40

Could you have swum the 1000 straight without stopping?