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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jen in my opinion if you go past 90 minutes you need something in your stomach gel or whatever. Especially if the intensity is high. At what point you "need" a recovery drink is based a lot on the way you're feeling. Do you feel like you're bouncing back, did this workout negatively impact your next one or two, etc? Most the long course guys I know swear by Ultragen for recovery. I'm trying to hold off until I get into full blown IM training just due to the price factor. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Oh and Steve, 12 pack a day?!?!?!?! Holy _______ dude! Congrats. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2012-07-10 8:34 AM Jen in my opinion if you go past 90 minutes you need something in your stomach gel or whatever. Especially if the intensity is high. At what point you "need" a recovery drink is based a lot on the way you're feeling. Do you feel like you're bouncing back, did this workout negatively impact your next one or two, etc? Most the long course guys I know swear by Ultragen for recovery. I'm trying to hold off until I get into full blown IM training just due to the price factor. My legs are stiff and sore, and my energy is depleted in the late afternoon, but I am usually fine for my training session the next day, so I guess I do bounce back, as those things are normal for what I'm doing right now. I was holding off on recovery drinks as well. I was thinking more of making a small smoothie with fruit, greek yogurt, greens, and a little protein powder. Drinking that in addition to eating oatmeal seems like a lot for me though, so I uses I'll just stick to a big breakfast. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2012-07-09 5:22 PM This is interesting: Concerns altering a number and banditing a race to pace a competitor. Interesting. That bib does look altered with the numbers on the left v. center. From what most of those dudes on ST are saying, she's a decent athlete, so why the pacer? Crazy to take that chance, if it's true. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jarvy01 - 2012-07-10 8:16 AM uhcoog - 2012-07-10 8:34 AM Jen in my opinion if you go past 90 minutes you need something in your stomach gel or whatever. Especially if the intensity is high. At what point you "need" a recovery drink is based a lot on the way you're feeling. Do you feel like you're bouncing back, did this workout negatively impact your next one or two, etc? Most the long course guys I know swear by Ultragen for recovery. I'm trying to hold off until I get into full blown IM training just due to the price factor. My legs are stiff and sore, and my energy is depleted in the late afternoon, but I am usually fine for my training session the next day, so I guess I do bounce back, as those things are normal for what I'm doing right now. I was holding off on recovery drinks as well. I was thinking more of making a small smoothie with fruit, greek yogurt, greens, and a little protein powder. Drinking that in addition to eating oatmeal seems like a lot for me though, so I uses I'll just stick to a big breakfast. Stiff, sore, energy depleted.... hmmmm.... how many kids do you have again???? Eating big post workout is a good thing. I'd go smoothie right after your workout and then a real food meal like 90 minutes after that if possible. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() abqtj - 2012-07-09 8:34 PM I know some saw this on my FB page earlier but wanted to toot my horn on here: This past weekend marked my two year anniversary for being Diet Coke (and all soda) free! The big deal is I was WELL MORE than a 12 pack a day drinker for easily 25+ years. Quit cold turkey (and suffered for a couple of weeks), but now I don't miss it one bit. That is awesome! I wish I could get my parents to quit drinking Diet Coke! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jarvy01 - 2012-07-10 9:16 AM uhcoog - 2012-07-10 8:34 AM Jen in my opinion if you go past 90 minutes you need something in your stomach gel or whatever. Especially if the intensity is high. At what point you "need" a recovery drink is based a lot on the way you're feeling. Do you feel like you're bouncing back, did this workout negatively impact your next one or two, etc? Most the long course guys I know swear by Ultragen for recovery. I'm trying to hold off until I get into full blown IM training just due to the price factor. My legs are stiff and sore, and my energy is depleted in the late afternoon, but I am usually fine for my training session the next day, so I guess I do bounce back, as those things are normal for what I'm doing right now. I was holding off on recovery drinks as well. I was thinking more of making a small smoothie with fruit, greek yogurt, greens, and a little protein powder. Drinking that in addition to eating oatmeal seems like a lot for me though, so I uses I'll just stick to a big breakfast.
Ahh something I know about from my lifting days...I am a huge believer in recovery drinks. Mine are usually chocolate milk or a smoothie with protein added. The main goal with recovery drinks is you want to replace your sugars and get some protein for muscle recovery. If you don't get the sugars your body can start to "eat" your muscle and make recovery longer. The suggested recovery drink time is within 30 minutes of finishing your exercise. I do notice a difference in my energy levels if I don't do this. I like to use honey in my smoothies as my natural sugar. I also do like Scott and have meal withing 90-120 minutes later.
So I thought splenda is "natural"? If not I guess I will switch back to sugar. I use honey in my afternoon/evening tea but I use splenda in my morning coffee thinking it is a good alternative to sugar. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kidtri33 - 2012-07-10 9:32 AM jarvy01 - 2012-07-10 9:16 AM uhcoog - 2012-07-10 8:34 AM Jen in my opinion if you go past 90 minutes you need something in your stomach gel or whatever. Especially if the intensity is high. At what point you "need" a recovery drink is based a lot on the way you're feeling. Do you feel like you're bouncing back, did this workout negatively impact your next one or two, etc? Most the long course guys I know swear by Ultragen for recovery. I'm trying to hold off until I get into full blown IM training just due to the price factor. My legs are stiff and sore, and my energy is depleted in the late afternoon, but I am usually fine for my training session the next day, so I guess I do bounce back, as those things are normal for what I'm doing right now. I was holding off on recovery drinks as well. I was thinking more of making a small smoothie with fruit, greek yogurt, greens, and a little protein powder. Drinking that in addition to eating oatmeal seems like a lot for me though, so I uses I'll just stick to a big breakfast.
Ahh something I know about from my lifting days...I am a huge believer in recovery drinks. Mine are usually chocolate milk or a smoothie with protein added. The main goal with recovery drinks is you want to replace your sugars and get some protein for muscle recovery. If you don't get the sugars your body can start to "eat" your muscle and make recovery longer. The suggested recovery drink time is within 30 minutes of finishing your exercise. I do notice a difference in my energy levels if I don't do this. I like to use honey in my smoothies as my natural sugar. I also do like Scott and have meal withing 90-120 minutes later.
So I thought splenda is "natural"? If not I guess I will switch back to sugar. I use honey in my afternoon/evening tea but I use splenda in my morning coffee thinking it is a good alternative to sugar. Yeah I still go with a protein powder, raw oats, and enough milk to turn it into something you can eat with a spoon as recovery cocktail. I prefer to use complex carbs as much as possible, which is why I've shied away from supps like Ultragen that use simple sugars. Traditionally my body hasn't handled simple sugars well, but as Cindy points out I'm probably basing that on power lifter Scott as opposed to triathlete Scott. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scott - you mix protein powder, raw oats, and milk? Do you put in blender to break up the oats at all, or just crunch through them? I always wondered if raw oats not cooked or broken down somewhat would upset my stomach. I'll have to give that a try. Speaking of oats, I found a recipe for greek yogurt banana muffins on pinterist that are awesome. 2.5 cups rolled oats 1 cup greek yogurt (I use plain 0%, but you could use flavored) 2 eggs 1.5 tsp baking powder .5 tsp baking soda 2 ripe bananas Blend in food processor until smooth, pour into regular size muffin pans (line with either foil or spray with pam, do not use paper), bake in 400 degree pre-heated oven for 20 - 25 minutes. About 93 calories per muffin, if done in standard 12 muffin tins. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() karen26.2 - 2012-07-10 12:48 PM Scott - you mix protein powder, raw oats, and milk? Do you put in blender to break up the oats at all, or just crunch through them? I always wondered if raw oats not cooked or broken down somewhat would upset my stomach. I'll have to give that a try. Speaking of oats, I found a recipe for greek yogurt banana muffins on pinterist that are awesome. 2.5 cups rolled oats 1 cup greek yogurt (I use plain 0%, but you could use flavored) 2 eggs 1.5 tsp baking powder .5 tsp baking soda 2 ripe bananas Blend in food processor until smooth, pour into regular size muffin pans (line with either foil or spray with pam, do not use paper), bake in 400 degree pre-heated oven for 20 - 25 minutes. About 93 calories per muffin, if done in standard 12 muffin tins. One of my favorite breakfasts is greek yogurt, 1/2 c raw oats, slivered almonds, and sunflower seeds. YUMMY! The raw oats add more crunch. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey gang. Just touching base. Nothing new and exciting from me. Haven't been racing, running, or swimming. Just biking. It's all the back can handle right now. I've seen the spine specialist, and he tells me not much he can do for me, other than "you may just have to find something else to do, but certainly stay active" Ok, thanks for nothing. Seeing a Chiropractor for the first time tomorrow. I am now just grasping at straws to get this handled and solved. Anyway, everyone is doing great. Keep it up. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() rizer22 - 2012-07-10 1:31 PM Hey gang. Just touching base. Nothing new and exciting from me. Haven't been racing, running, or swimming. Just biking. It's all the back can handle right now. I've seen the spine specialist, and he tells me not much he can do for me, other than "you may just have to find something else to do, but certainly stay active" Ok, thanks for nothing. Seeing a Chiropractor for the first time tomorrow. I am now just grasping at straws to get this handled and solved. Anyway, everyone is doing great. Keep it up. Man that sucks. I'm sorry Jeff. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() rizer22 - 2012-07-10 2:31 PM Hey gang. Just touching base. Nothing new and exciting from me. Haven't been racing, running, or swimming. Just biking. It's all the back can handle right now. I've seen the spine specialist, and he tells me not much he can do for me, other than "you may just have to find something else to do, but certainly stay active" Ok, thanks for nothing. Seeing a Chiropractor for the first time tomorrow. I am now just grasping at straws to get this handled and solved. Anyway, everyone is doing great. Keep it up. GRRRRRRRRRR. I'm still pissed off at the driver who hit you. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2012-07-10 2:38 PM rizer22 - 2012-07-10 1:31 PM Hey gang. Just touching base. Nothing new and exciting from me. Haven't been racing, running, or swimming. Just biking. It's all the back can handle right now. I've seen the spine specialist, and he tells me not much he can do for me, other than "you may just have to find something else to do, but certainly stay active" Ok, thanks for nothing. Seeing a Chiropractor for the first time tomorrow. I am now just grasping at straws to get this handled and solved. Anyway, everyone is doing great. Keep it up. Man that sucks. I'm sorry Jeff. Thanks Scott, I appreciate that. But at this point, I've somewhat accepted the fact that some irresponsible idiot hit me, and am trying not to dwell on it. it's only causing more issues. So I continue to get some biking in, trying to maintain some fitness and will look for 2013 to be a bigger year for me with hopes of getting that 70.3 in the books. Speaking of Books, I am in the middle of "Finding Ultra" by Rich Roll. Amazing story of overcoming so many obstacles in his life, from not fitting in as a kid, being bullied, becoming an alcoholic, and more, to becoming a vegan, elite, ultra endurance athlete. I reccomend the book for sure.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uhcoog - 2012-07-10 8:34 AM Jen in my opinion if you go past 90 minutes you need something in your stomach gel or whatever. Especially if the intensity is high. At what point you "need" a recovery drink is based a lot on the way you're feeling. Do you feel like you're bouncing back, did this workout negatively impact your next one or two, etc? Most the long course guys I know swear by Ultragen for recovery. I'm trying to hold off until I get into full blown IM training just due to the price factor. +1 You need to get something in your stomach before the workout and have something available during the workout. Easiet thing might be to bring a bottle of sports drink (or a gel diluted in sports drink). If you need it, its there -- plus your doing intervals at above LT (when Jen says Z3 she's talking about high Z4 / low Z5 on a Friel scale) and you'll likely need something. Personally I'm having a love affair with Pedialyte. When I was sick it was the only thing I could stomach and now I think its the most fantastic drink on the planet. A liter has 100 calories, no articifcial sweeteners and nice balance of electrolytes. Unfortunately it's $5 / bottle. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kelly, I enjoyed your blog post on the NYC course. Course seemed a little funky to me with the stairs on the bridge. Do you think this event is being hyped up too much simply because it's NYC. As you mentioned, the course really shows none of the city and is not scenic. I guess we'll find out your thoughts when you finish. Can't wait to hear about it. Youre going to do great. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() rizer22 - 2012-07-10 3:56 PM Kelly, I enjoyed your blog post on the NYC course. Course seemed a little funky to me with the stairs on the bridge. Do you think this event is being hyped up too much simply because it's NYC. As you mentioned, the course really shows none of the city and is not scenic. I guess we'll find out your thoughts when you finish. Can't wait to hear about it. Youre going to do great. Its a fair course with some challenging parts. If you race for the scenery or actually wanted to race in the city, its not a race for you. Its being hyped because its NYC. While triathletes may be excited about NYC, I don't think NYC is going to be particularly excited about an IM, but we'll see. I have a feeling that this race is going to have a really long tail. The front end is always fast (and getting faster) but there are a HUGE number of first time IMers doing the race and I think there's likely to be more finishers finishing later (especially given that the course is on the more difficult side and the weather may be a huge factor). Its very likely not going to be a PR for me. I really just want to go out, hit my numbers on bike and have a solid run. If everything thing goes perfectly I could end up running up quite a few places, but I would estatic (and shocked) if I hit the top 10 in my AG. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Replay of yesterday's TdF TT makes an hour on the trainer much easier. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey everyone ... so Kelly and I have decided that the MCM race (and Chicago although this one is not transferable) are not likely doable for me this year and I don't want to push myself and re-injure. There is not really a timeframe in sight for me getting back to running and I am already really behind on marathon training. Its unfortunate, but is what it is. So I am selling both bibs. The MCM bib is transferable, the Chicago is not (meaning you run under my name). Let me know if interested or know of anyone that might be. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kaburns1214 - 2012-07-10 3:47 PM rizer22 - 2012-07-10 2:31 PM Hey gang. Just touching base. Nothing new and exciting from me. Haven't been racing, running, or swimming. Just biking. It's all the back can handle right now. I've seen the spine specialist, and he tells me not much he can do for me, other than "you may just have to find something else to do, but certainly stay active" Ok, thanks for nothing. Seeing a Chiropractor for the first time tomorrow. I am now just grasping at straws to get this handled and solved. Anyway, everyone is doing great. Keep it up. GRRRRRRRRRR. I'm still pissed off at the driver who hit you. What Kelly said! I am so sorry you are in pain, Jeff. I hope the chiropractor has some suggestions for you. Hang in there, friend. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Long swim this morning. The kick sets get me every time. I am so slow with that kick board. It's laughable. I am really into Scott Jurek's book. His search for inner peace resonates with me. He writes well and expresses the mental aspects of the ultra in a way we can all relate to as endurance athletes. I like this paragraph (pg. 6): "I started running for reasons I had only just begun to understand. As a child, I ran in the woods and around my house for fun. As a teen, I ran to get my body in better shape. Later, I ran to find peace. I ran, and kept running, because I learned that once you started something you didn't quit, because in life, much like in an ultra marathon, you have to keep pressing forward. Eventually I ran because I turned into a runner, and my sport brought me physical pleasure and spirited me away from debt and disease, from the niggling worries of everyday existence. I ran because I grew to love other runners. I ran because I loved challenges and because there is no better feeling than arriving at the finish line or completing a difficult training run. And because, as an accomplished tuner, I could tell others how rewarding t was to live healthily, to move my body every day, to get through difficulties, to eat with consciousness, that what mattered wasn't how much money you made or where you lived, it was how you lived." I also like this (pg. 73): "I considered eating well to be good, cheap health insurance." Also, he takes rice balls soaked in miso and covered in seaweed, bean burritos, and salted potatoes on his long runs. LOL I think my gut might have a problem with that. I'm still considering going 100% vegan. My mother found my allergy report from when I was 11 (um, yes, it said I was 5'4".....no wonder I was teased |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jarvy01 - 2012-07-11 7:34 AM Jen, that sounds like an awesome book. I am going to see if my library has it so I can read it also.It sounds like seeing an allergist is a good idea if you decide to go vegan again.Long swim this morning. The kick sets get me every time. I am so slow with that kick board. It's laughable. I am really into Scott Jurek's book. His search for inner peace resonates with me. He writes well and expresses the mental aspects of the ultra in a way we can all relate to as endurance athletes. I like this paragraph (pg. 6): "I started running for reasons I had only just begun to understand. As a child, I ran in the woods and around my house for fun. As a teen, I ran to get my body in better shape. Later, I ran to find peace. I ran, and kept running, because I learned that once you started something you didn't quit, because in life, much like in an ultra marathon, you have to keep pressing forward. Eventually I ran because I turned into a runner, and my sport brought me physical pleasure and spirited me away from debt and disease, from the niggling worries of everyday existence. I ran because I grew to love other runners. I ran because I loved challenges and because there is no better feeling than arriving at the finish line or completing a difficult training run. And because, as an accomplished tuner, I could tell others how rewarding t was to live healthily, to move my body every day, to get through difficulties, to eat with consciousness, that what mattered wasn't how much money you made or where you lived, it was how you lived." I also like this (pg. 73): "I considered eating well to be good, cheap health insurance." Also, he takes rice balls soaked in miso and covered in seaweed, bean burritos, and salted potatoes on his long runs. LOL I think my gut might have a problem with that. I'm still considering going 100% vegan. My mother found my allergy report from when I was 11 (um, yes, it said I was 5'4".....no wonder I was teased |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jeff, I am so sorry you are still having issues after the accident. I am glad you are able to still bike. I hope the chiropractor can help you.Steve – congratulations on your diet coke victory! I am not a soda drinker and never have been, but can certainly understand the addiction. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Where is triguy? |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It's been raining non stop for a few days here in town. This weather is really demotivating. One of the perks of last years drought was you always knew you'd have good training weather. |
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