BT Development Mentor Program Archives » Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED Rss Feed  
Moderators: alicefoeller Reply
 
 
of 122
 
 
2012-02-28 9:56 PM
in reply to: #4071699

User image

Veteran
419
100100100100
clayton
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
William - i have a garmin 305. used it predominatly for running and now starting to track bike and indoor activities using foot pod and cadence sensor.It does everything I could need and I know it does plenty more that I dont! For the price its a bargain, admittedly the FP and BCS are pricey addons.


2012-02-28 10:17 PM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Expert
1255
10001001002525
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

Well, I bit the bullet and signed up for a coaching group.  Tonight was trigger point therapy and then my first swim class with the group.  It was awesome.  Can't wait until tomorrow night for spin training and Thurs AM for running.

Glad to hear everyone is still working out and overcoming challenges.

2012-02-29 7:31 AM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Master
3022
20001000
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

March Challenge is coming at a good time.  Feb started slow and ended slow for me.  No motivation the last couple of days and legs just felt tired.  Don't know if it is life and work getting in the way or what - but nothing like a good challenge to dust the cob webs off.

March Challenge Rules:

"The winner is the one with the most workouts in a month, each workout at least 30' each.

A "week" is Sunday to Saturday. March has four weeks preceded by three days (Thursday March 1 through Saturday March 3). During each of the official four weeks, you can only count the workouts from 6 days. You can work out all seven if you want, but the workouts from only six days (your choice) go toward your total.

S/B/R is a workout. Supporting stuff (like weights) does not count.

You cannot break a workout in 30' blocks to get more in one day (example breaking a four hour ride into eight workouts). Not more than one session of each sport in a day, so the max for one day is three workouts, assuming you did a swim, a ride and a run each longer than 30'. 

You get one point per session. Max points possible for the month will be 3 x 27 = 81. Tie breaker is overall training time."

Proposed reporting format:

Mitch - Swim X; Bike X; Run X; Total X; Minutes XX:XX:XX

Participants as I found them

Participants (pls add your name as you complete your 1st workouts if your name is missing)

- Charlotte
- Chris
- Ernesto
- Gabe
- Jim 
- Jackie
- Jennie
- Joe P
- Joe
- MarkZ
- Mark
- Matthews
- Mitch
- Rachel
- Samy
- Scott
2012-02-29 9:26 AM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Veteran
149
10025
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
Hi!

I definitely have a lot to catch up on. I went on vacation for a week in Bahamas and didnt really have much access to the internet. Trained while I was out there and will upload when I get a chance.

Can't wait for the March challenge.
2012-02-29 10:03 AM
in reply to: #4072508

Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
I am really looking forward to march challenge. It is only 5.5 months until AG national race in august. I am still inconsistent and worried my time in all 3 - s/b/r - is not at all ompetitive. I mean I think if I did it now I would finish 30 - 45 minutes slower than lead in age group. I know need to lose about 20 pounds and push consistent with masters swim, computrainer, and run at maffetone.A couple of questions: 1). If I did what I said I would above any thoughts about realistic goals for getting faster - I mean percentage improvement?2). When do I transition from MAF aerobic training to anaerobic training?3). I know may sound lame - but should I give up on goal of finishing in top half of 55-59 year old women given I am so far behind?Tx
2012-02-29 10:45 AM
in reply to: #4072640

User image

Master
2238
200010010025
Dallas
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

charlotte hobbs - 2012-02-29 10:03 AM I am really looking forward to march challenge. It is only 5.5 months until AG national race in august. I am still inconsistent and worried my time in all 3 - s/b/r - is not at all ompetitive. I mean I think if I did it now I would finish 30 - 45 minutes slower than lead in age group. I know need to lose about 20 pounds and push consistent with masters swim, computrainer, and run at maffetone.A couple of questions: 1). If I did what I said I would above any thoughts about realistic goals for getting faster - I mean percentage improvement?2). When do I transition from MAF aerobic training to anaerobic training?3). I know may sound lame - but should I give up on goal of finishing in top half of 55-59 year old women given I am so far behind?Tx
Your improvement will be in direct proportion to how developed or undeveloped your aerobic system is today. The gains ARE NOT INSTANTANEOUS and you will need patience and determination. I will tell you that it is results guaranteed, but it might take a while (or not).

How's your son?



2012-02-29 10:47 AM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Extreme Veteran
692
500100252525
England
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

I'm looking forward to the March challenge, but it's going to be interesting to see how I cope.  After a big weekend (for me) of cycling, I've been incredibly fatigued.  As a result I've had 2 days where I've done little to no training, in the interests of not killing myself.  As a general rule I tend to believe more in under-recovery than overtraining, but I think this weekend was probably overtraining. 

I'm struggling to find the balance between doing what I feel I "should" be doing (I'm getting a little panicked that I'm not going to be ready for IM), and doing what my body is actually capable of.  I'm trying to find the happy medium between doing enough, but not too much, but I guess the last few days have shown that I haven't figured it out yet.

So any tips from people about how to figure out the right amount to do?

2012-02-29 11:34 AM
in reply to: #4069973

User image

Expert
1109
1000100
Guatemala
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
dangremond - 2012-02-28 7:10 AM

Gabe - quick question.  Are you using the Endurance Nation training plan?  I ask because I got included in a free 8 week coached training program aimed at short course triathlons.  I know there will be many differences between short and long course plans but was just looking for your overall impressions if you are using them. -Mitch

(here is link to free offer: http://www.endurancenation.us/free-training-seminars/)

Hey Mitch, I started using the Advanced Endurance Nation IM Plan because that was what 5 other tri-friends that I found were also going from Guatemala to IM TX were using.  However, after a few weeks I realized that the plan was a little too technical for my experience, since every workout is based on HR zones and very specific.  I could see that it made sense for the other friends who were using it because they all have completed IM's before (b/n 2-4 each) and felt comfortable with the plan and knew already what to expect.

So I decided to go with a coach/buddy who help train me for the Chicago Marathon and am following a plan that he puts together for me every week.  He has done a good job training other local athletes for recent IM and 1/2 IM tris and I like the on-going support that I'm getting from him, especially since it is a whole new experience for me.

For future IM's I will probably consider the EN plans, since I like the strategy of optimizing every workout and getting the highest ROI out of each workout and limited time.  

Cheers!

 

 

2012-02-29 1:08 PM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Master
1609
1000500100
Gold Coast Australia.
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

Hey, March here already and this morning at 5am started with a 56min MTB ride.  It gets too hot later on, plus I have to go to work too.

Rachel, I don't think there's such a thing as balance... and the body is capable of handling much more than we think. For me the danger is mental burnout. To help, you need regular dose of motivation material. I don't know if you're familiar with this guy, but his blog  helped me.



Edited by markz 2012-02-29 1:09 PM
2012-02-29 5:12 PM
in reply to: #4073244

Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
thanks Ernesto.  Thank you for asking about Benjamin.  He was not able to cope with going back to school; he tried.  he is going to complete grade 11 in private online school.  The school we are looking at requires 4 hours of online school per day and then daily "joy" activities that consistent of  exercise and some creative outlets.  it is definitely an out of the box trial especially for a kid who has been a straight A student, but if he is alive and can begin enjoying life again it will be well worth it.
2012-02-29 5:56 PM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Extreme Veteran
576
500252525
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
1st one for the challenge - see how long i can stay on the top for!

Mitch - Swim X; Bike X; Run X; Total X; Minutes XX:XX:XX

Participants as I found them

Participants (pls add your name as you complete your 1st workouts if your name is missing)
- Matthews - Swim 30mins Bike 0 Run 0; total = 1 30mins
- Charlotte
- Chris
- Ernesto
- Gabe
- Jim
- Jackie
- Jennie
- Joe P
- Joe
- MarkZ
- Mark
- Mitch
- Rachel
- Samy
- Scott


2012-02-29 6:02 PM
in reply to: #4072770

User image

Extreme Veteran
576
500252525
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
Hi Rachel, I think I know how you feel. I have been going through the same feeling. I too am worried about over training and also under training. The key I thinks is to never increase by more then 10% a week (note to self). Keep it simple and yes listen to the body but also push the body as well. I have found a lot is mental strength and I'm sure those that have done a IM will tell you that a lot of the effort is in the mind.
2012-02-29 7:07 PM
in reply to: #4072175

User image

Expert
1480
1000100100100100252525
Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

March Challenge Rules:

"The winner is the one with the most workouts in a month, each workout at least 30' each."

 

OK - the lawyer in me has to raise the following question:  Does 30 minutes mean 30 minutes of active exercise? So, for example, should rest intervals during swim sets count towards 30 minutes?  My feeling is that it shouldn't, but I wanted to put it out there.



Edited by JoePetto 2012-02-29 7:08 PM
2012-02-29 7:28 PM
in reply to: #4073908

User image

Master
1780
1000500100100252525
Boynton Beach, FL
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
JoePetto - 2012-02-29 8:07 PM

March Challenge Rules:

"The winner is the one with the most workouts in a month, each workout at least 30' each."

 

OK - the lawyer in me has to raise the following question:  Does 30 minutes mean 30 minutes of active exercise? So, for example, should rest intervals during swim sets count towards 30 minutes?  My feeling is that it shouldn't, but I wanted to put it out there.

The problem if it doesn't is that it would be a pain to calculate swimming time. I think time between interval SETS should not count, but time between intervals should.

BTW, Mathews, do you know that March doesn't strat until tomorrow, right? Smile Mark should be in the lead as he is the only one officially in March (Is it still 2012 in Australia?)

2012-02-29 7:57 PM
in reply to: #4073908

User image

Master
2238
200010010025
Dallas
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
JoePetto - 2012-02-29 7:07 PM

March Challenge Rules:

"The winner is the one with the most workouts in a month, each workout at least 30' each."

 

OK - the lawyer in me has to raise the following question:  Does 30 minutes mean 30 minutes of active exercise? So, for example, should rest intervals during swim sets count towards 30 minutes?  My feeling is that it shouldn't, but I wanted to put it out there.

I never count wall time in the pool. For example last night I swam 46:55 but my actual time in the water was 59:28. I really don't think it is fair to count rests between sets. Anyway I don't think that total time will be the winning ticket, I really do believe that actually this challenge puts the people that is training for long course in disadvantage because their sessions are much longer, no way they can but two workouts every day.
2012-02-29 7:59 PM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Master
3022
20001000
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
Think we would be making it too confusing if we try to delineat time between intervals vs time between sets.  30 minutes in the pool is good enough for me.  I trust that folks won't swim for 15 minutes and hang on the lane markers for the rest of the time.


2012-02-29 7:59 PM
in reply to: #4073786

User image

Master
2238
200010010025
Dallas
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
charlotte hobbs - 2012-02-29 5:12 PM thanks Ernesto.  Thank you for asking about Benjamin.  He was not able to cope with going back to school; he tried.  he is going to complete grade 11 in private online school.  The school we are looking at requires 4 hours of online school per day and then daily "joy" activities that consistent of  exercise and some creative outlets.  it is definitely an out of the box trial especially for a kid who has been a straight A student, but if he is alive and can begin enjoying life again it will be well worth it.
Try to have him go by your side while you're running (on a bike). Just spending time outside changes your perspective. Bring him over to the thread, maybe we can stimulate him to set himself up for a 5K in a couple of months...
2012-02-29 8:01 PM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Master
3022
20001000
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

MARCH CHALLENGE

- MarkZ: Swim 0; Bike 1; Run 0; total = 1; 56 mins 
- Matthews: Swim 1; Bike 0; Run 0; total = 1; 30mins 
- Charlotte 
- Chris 
- Ernesto 
- Gabe 
- Jim 
- Jackie 
- Jennie 
- Joe P 
- Joe 
- Mark 
- Mitch 
- Rachel 
- Samy 
- Scott
2012-02-29 8:05 PM
in reply to: #4073988

User image

Master
2238
200010010025
Dallas
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
dangremond - 2012-02-29 7:59 PM Think we would be making it too confusing if we try to delineat time between intervals vs time between sets.  30 minutes in the pool is good enough for me.  I trust that folks won't swim for 15 minutes and hang on the lane markers for the rest of the time.
All you have to do is hit the lap button in your 910XT and after the workout when you download it you will know how much actual swim time you have. Besides, it is time you start swimming for real Mitch. Your bike and run are much better than your swim, need to even the three disciplines.
2012-02-29 8:09 PM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Extreme Veteran
576
500252525
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
I must have missed Mark post so I'm second one.

Sam< I'm also in the most beautiful country in the world just the other side of Mark so I'm 3 hrs behind him.

I'm not fussed either way how the swim is recorded. I think we are all honest enough people. Otherwise if you walk during your run for a few minutes that should also come off the time. And then what about the time we only coast along on the bike??
2012-02-29 8:26 PM
in reply to: #4073939

User image

Maple Grove, MN
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
Samyg - 2012-02-29 7:28 PM

JoePetto - 2012-02-29 8:07 PM

March Challenge Rules:

"The winner is the one with the most workouts in a month, each workout at least 30' each."

 

OK - the lawyer in me has to raise the following question:  Does 30 minutes mean 30 minutes of active exercise? So, for example, should rest intervals during swim sets count towards 30 minutes?  My feeling is that it shouldn't, but I wanted to put it out there.

The problem if it doesn't is that it would be a pain to calculate swimming time. I think time between interval SETS should not count, but time between intervals should.

BTW, Mathews, do you know that March doesn't strat until tomorrow, right? Smile Mark should be in the lead as he is the only one officially in March (Is it still 2012 in Australia?)



Guys, guys, guys. Don't you know that leap year is just an American thing? That's the reason it's summer now in Australia. Their summer used to be the same as ours, but that was 720 years ago. But they have one less day than us every four years, and so 720 years later, they are six months off. But don't worry, we'll all be in sync again in another 720 years.

Edited by chris2533 2012-02-29 9:35 PM


2012-02-29 8:26 PM
in reply to: #4074007

User image

Master
3022
20001000
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

ernestov - 2012-02-29 9:05 PM
dangremond - 2012-02-29 7:59 PM Think we would be making it too confusing if we try to delineat time between intervals vs time between sets.  30 minutes in the pool is good enough for me.  I trust that folks won't swim for 15 minutes and hang on the lane markers for the rest of the time.
All you have to do is hit the lap button in your 910XT and after the workout when you download it you will know how much actual swim time you have. Besides, it is time you start swimming for real Mitch. Your bike and run are much better than your swim, need to even the three disciplines.

I think that was more than a hint...LOL.  

I knew that I could track my swim time minus rests but was thinking that others may be using the clock at the pool or not have a water resistant garmin, etc.  I'm fine either way and yes, you are right - I need to start swimming with consistency.  That is one thing I have never done!  That is my goal for this month.

2012-02-29 9:22 PM
in reply to: #4074007

User image

Master
1780
1000500100100252525
Boynton Beach, FL
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

ernestov - 2012-02-29 9:05 PM All you have to do is hit the lap button in your 910XT and after the workout when you download it you will know how much actual swim time you have. Besides, it is time you start swimming for real Mitch. Your bike and run are much better than your swim, need to even the three disciplines.

Ernesto is right, and to facilitate the challenge he has garciously decided to donate a new Garmin 910XT to all of us poor souls that are living in the past using antiquated equipment, such as my Garmin FR305.Wink

Funny thing - I was most worried about my swim, still think that is the limiting factor of me moving to olympic distance, and yet by rank vs. rest of my AG, the swim was my best modality...go figure

2012-03-01 1:12 AM
in reply to: #3942748

User image

Master
1609
1000500100
Gold Coast Australia.
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED

Woohoo! I'm on top! See how long this lasts... We actually have to do everything upside down here with Matthew. And in the heat. Oh, and the water in the toilet swirls the other way. Yeah. Cool

Chris, this cosmic calculation puzzles me, I have this feeling it will be more than 1000 years before we are in sync... but I could be wrong Frown



Edited by markz 2012-03-01 4:03 AM
2012-03-01 4:29 AM
in reply to: #4073999

User image

Extreme Veteran
576
500252525
Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED
Updated after a short sharp ride its good to ahead of the rest of the world.

dangremond - 2012-03-01 10:01 AM

MARCH CHALLENGE

- MarkZ: Swim 0; Bike 1; Run 0; total = 1; 56 mins 
- Matthews: Swim 1; Bike 1; Run 0; total = 2; 1:25mins 
- Charlotte 
- Chris 
- Ernesto 
- Gabe 
- Jim 
- Jackie 
- Jennie 
- Joe P 
- Joe 
- Mark 
- Mitch 
- Rachel 
- Samy 
- Scott


Edited by Matthews 2012-03-01 4:30 AM
New Thread
BT Development Mentor Program Archives » Ernesto's group (third season) - CLOSED Rss Feed  
 
 
of 122