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2004-02-08 10:58 AM

Subject: Countdown???

I need some direction from those of you more in the know than I:

When does the countdown for a scheudled Tri begin? Or -- how many weeks are best for TRUE training -- as opposed to BASE training?

My first Tri is June 26th, so 16 weeks would be Feb. 26th, 12 weeks would be March 26th (or there about). I've been doing base training for about 5 months now, and am not sure how much hard training I should do when.

Also, since I have been base training, some of the training plans I look at almost seem like they start the first couple of weeks at a pretty low intensity or time. But maybe that's a good thing?

As you see, I am in a quandry of what to do, how much to do, and when to do it now that the season is nearing. And I will appriciate hearing from some of my team mates here.

Thanks, Nancy;-<b></b>)



2004-02-08 4:11 PM
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A lot of programs assume little base as a starting point, so with your nice base you can start from a stronger position. As for when to start working into an organized built for your event, it's really up to you 12, 16, 20 weeks what ever. If you decide to incorporate 1-2 speed/tempo workouts a week, the increased intensity can be offset by less duration/distance on these days and then decreased intensity and duration on the following day for a recovery/easy day. So this can lead to less hours/time per week, But that can be offset by increasing the long day. Also increasing your long day for each event up to 150% of the race distance can be good for confidence for the shorter events. Being able to run 15k is nice for an Olympic race. Though of course you wouldn't want a long run of 40 miles for an ironman. I don't know if that helped or was just more confusing. Anyway I think you're in a good place. Good luck.

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2004-02-08 6:38 PM
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Welllllll -- maybe a little confusing, but I will try to sort it out. Thanks for taking the time.

The part about not starting at the very beginning of a training plan makes sense. I guess I will pick a point on the plan that fits what I have been doing, and figure out how long it will take to be in "race form"!!!!

2004-02-08 8:58 PM
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I am reading the Triathlon Training Bible and it has the work out countdown to a science! It has a bunch of useful info in it but me being a beginner am not going to get too advanced in my training at this point. But it is a great book thus far and walks you through a program so that you can “peak” for your race. My 2 sense. Jack

2004-02-08 10:31 PM
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Thanks Jack, I'll check it out.
2004-02-08 11:11 PM
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You can do a lot in 40 days if you work hard, recover properly and have a solid base. How much hard training depends on how well you can recover. 60-80% of your training should stay at a lower intensity, unless you are doing a very time limited schedule. Two long hard days seems to be good for people with fulltime jobs and a third medium day if you can handle it. Even the long hard days shouldn't be all hard training. The long days and the hard days need to be the same days. Do speed in your long runs, bikes and swims. The short days are easier and are for recovery.
There is also a lot of talk about tapering for races. I don't do a big taper. The last month of training for your big race should be consistent and then take it easy the week before the race. You only need to taper more if you overtrain.
I think it is important to be consistent with frequency. If you train each discipline 3 times a week you should stick to that. Volume should stay relitively consistent. Every third or fourth week doing about two thirds or half your usual training volume is good, even if only for the mental break. Intensity should vary greatly. Check your pulse every morning if it is 5 beats above normal train very easy or not at all. If it is normal train hard. If your legs hurt for more than two days after a workout you are training too hard. For June 26th April and May are your months to work on getting a faster. I think your biggest miss conception is the "true training." The base training is the true training and the most important. You first build your hours of training and to the distance then you add the speedwork. You can't take something off the internet or from a book and blindly follow it because you need to include your whole lifestyle and you or the person who made that program don't know 100% how you will respond to it because everyone is different. The first priciple of training is overload and recovery and the first true cliche is to listen to your body.
I've read some articles that say some Ironman professionals train for speed and then distance, I think this is just confused journalists who see them training for olympic distance races early in the season and the longer races later in the season. They still start out training more miles easier.

Edited by owie 2004-02-08 11:23 PM


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