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2010-11-17 12:05 PM

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Subject: Exercise Bike vs. Spinner vs. Trainer
My tri partner wants to do bicycle training indoors this winter, but does not want to use one of those trainers where you put your own bike on it.  Why?  She doesn't want to swap tires/wheels and everything I read here says the tire will get torn up. 

1- How quickly will it get torn up?  Could one tire last all winter (50-70 miles week) on a trainer and on weekend road rides?

2 - How much trouble is it to swap out a trainer wheel on the bike?  One minute?  Ten minutes?  (There are no racks or bike holding things to assist.)

Are there any BT user recommended exercise bikes? 

Is an exercise bike the same as a "spinner" bike?


2010-11-17 12:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Exercise Bike vs. Spinner vs. Trainer
Swapping out a wheel takes 15-30 seconds.  Swapping out a tire takes 2-4 minutes.  The benefits of riding on your own bike instead of a spinner or exercise bike are well worth the minimal time it takes to swap those out.

A tire can last quite a while on a trainer, but I would still recommend getting a trainer tire, designed specifically for trainers.  Will last forever and they are worth the small cost. 
2010-11-17 12:29 PM
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Changing out the tire is also good practice for fixing flats.
2010-11-17 12:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Exercise Bike vs. Spinner vs. Trainer
AndrewMT - 2010-11-17 7:18 AM Swapping out a wheel takes 15-30 seconds.  Swapping out a tire takes 2-4 minutes.  The benefits of riding on your own bike instead of a spinner or exercise bike are well worth the minimal time it takes to swap those out.

A tire can last quite a while on a trainer, but I would still recommend getting a trainer tire, designed specifically for trainers.  Will last forever and they are worth the small cost. 


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Except my tire wouldn't last a week on my trainer.  Not sure why.  I have a cycleops fluid 2.  And my tires get torn to shreds in less than 30 minutes.  I've tried different tire pressures, different tension on the tightening knob thing...nothing worked.  But the trainer tire will last forever.

It's also good practice for changing your tube/tire.
2010-11-17 12:38 PM
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I buy the cheapest brand tire nashbar has for sale and burn it up on the rollers after about 2500 miles and then put on new tires in the spring.
2010-11-17 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Exercise Bike vs. Spinner vs. Trainer
I just bought my first trainer. The cycleops MAx +.  I ride a cannondale CAAD 9.  should I know anything about setting up a trainer. what is needed what is recommened for a better ride. Should i really get a training wheel. what do you mean, tears up your tire... how so???


2010-11-17 4:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Exercise Bike vs. Spinner vs. Trainer
husse23 - 2010-11-17 3:54 PM I just bought my first trainer. The cycleops MAx +.  I ride a cannondale CAAD 9.  should I know anything about setting up a trainer. what is needed what is recommened for a better ride. Should i really get a training wheel. what do you mean, tears up your tire... how so???


What you need:

Trainer
Trainer skewer (usually steel and probably came with your trainer)
Towel for all the sweat

What you should have, but don't need:

Trainer tire (Continental makes one.  Usually Orange or colorful)
Riser block/stand for front wheel


A regular tire will be worn down faster on a trainer than on the road.  The heat builds up and little specks of black rubber will fly off.  This destroys the tire and can damage your floor and any furniture in the area.  You can get around this by putting a towel under the trainer and making sure there's nothing valuable in the vicinity.  To me, it's worth it to have the trainer tire, but when I'm lazy I'll still use my regular training tire. 

You don't need a spare wheel.
2010-11-17 4:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Exercise Bike vs. Spinner vs. Trainer
thanks for the advise.

Is a riser that important.. can I just stick some booked under my front tire.


Should I put a fan in front of me???
2010-11-18 11:56 AM
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Should I put a fan in front of me???


Yes,  a fan is huge.  One on a stand is ideal so that it hits more of your body.  The risers are a little more stable than books.  I like the one from Kurt Kinetic because it has notches in it for the front tire.  
2010-11-18 6:50 PM
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tri808 - 2010-11-17 10:32 AM

Except my tire wouldn't last a week on my trainer.  Not sure why.  I have a cycleops fluid 2.  And my tires get torn to shreds in less than 30 minutes.  I've tried different tire pressures, different tension on the tightening knob thing...nothing worked.  But the trainer tire will last forever.

It's also good practice for changing your tube/tire.

I don't know what to say about this. I also have a Cycleops 2 also. I ride indoors for a good 6 months. I use a used tire, and ride for hours with no problems. I can probably ride the whole winter on the same tire, but I replace it if I have accumulated a number of used tires during my outdoor season and the tire gets too slick.

2010-11-18 9:12 PM
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charlesmoss - 2010-11-18 12:56 PM
Should I put a fan in front of me???


The aerodynamic penalty will slow you down...


2010-11-18 9:18 PM
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Last year I left my summer race tire (Conti GP4000S) on my bike, and trained with it on my CycleOps Fluid Pro trainer all through the winter.... rode well over a thousand miles ... and ended up riding on it all through the Spring and right up until my first race. Then I changed both tires ... and kept the front tire to use as a trainer tire this winter after I wear through last summer's race tire.... because (hopefully) I'm gonna spin a lot more.

Or, stop by a bike shop, buy an extra set of tubes ... and ask for an old beater tire from the trash to use on a trainer .... they'll either give you one or charge you $5-10.

But don't miss the opportunity to train on your trainer this winter because of tire-anxiety!

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2010-11-18 9:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Exercise Bike vs. Spinner vs. Trainer

Find a good spinning class and ride together.
It's a lot more fun and if you use a heart rate monitor you can work as hard as you would on a trainer.

It's easier to ride the winter with a group.

If you really want to ride a trainer, ride with Troy or Lance.  I've doen the '99 Tour de France about 60 times. The Alpe d'Huez never gets boring, Love it!!

2010-11-19 9:11 AM
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Last winter I rode over 1000 miles (my first training winter) on my trainer on a 22 year old tire.  I changed my tires and put Cont 4000's on when I started riding on the road in the spring.  I was fine with ancient tires on the trainer, not the road.  I believe the trick to having a tire last on a trainer is to not tighten it down too much.  If you tighten the knob down on the tire too much I've heard it will tear your tire up quickly.  With just the right amount of pressure it seems to last forever.

This winter I have a new Specialized Transition Comp to replace the 22 year old Trek 1200, but I'm going to be putting the same 22 year old tire on it for training until it wears out.  Then I have the other 22 year old tire to train on after that.  When they are done then I will probably buy new race tires and use the Mondo's currently on there for trainers.

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