Recovery week into week one
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2012-02-05 8:29 AM |
Expert 1481 | Subject: Recovery week into week one So I've been training three weeks on and one week recovery for a while. It seems no matter what I do the week after recovery is my worst week by far. I just feel like my legs forgot how to push during the recovery week. Weeks 2 and 3 I get into a groove and kick butt. When the recovery week comes I'm glad to have it and need it. I've lowered both my recovery week volume and intensity but got on the trainer this morning for my long ride and once again just felt like crap and only got in half my planned time. Week three ride 3:15:00, 223 average watts, 132 average heart rate Week one ride 1:30:00 212 average watts, 131 average heart rate The week three ride was effortless. I sprinted the last 20 minute of that workout. Todays ride I had to work to maintain a much lower rate. The funny thing is I'll make up the time during the week and when I do my long ride next Sunday morning it will look like the last week three ride. Overall I keep making gains. A small sampling but I do have my complete logs for the last year on the site. 11/20 ride 2:30:00, 210 watts, 137 average heart rate 11/13 ride 2:15:00 216 watts, 141 average heart rate So there's been a nice slow progression of watts going up and heart rate coming down. Runs are the same 1/28 15 miles, 8:54/mile, 150 average HR 12/21 15 miles, 9:14/mile, 148 average HR 11/26 12.2 miles 9:16/mile, 146 average HR 9/23 11.8 miles 9:48/mile, 141 average HR Here's a detail of the last roation. 1/8 week 1 web bike 23 106 average heart rate fri bike 19 106 average heart rate Am I over thinking this or does anybody have any ideas as to why I feel worse on my week one when I should be fresh? The reason this really bothers me is what happens when I taper for my race? Am I going to feel like garbage for the race? My first HIM is in June so I have time to work this out but it's literally been like this for months with this morning being the worst to date. |
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2012-02-05 9:56 AM in reply to: #4030159 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one Disclaimer: I only read as far as the second paragraph where you said that you are decreasing both volume and intensity during recovery weeks. After that, I quickly got information overload. Instead of reducing both, only decrease volume. Maintain the same intensity as the build weeks. This can help you recovery without feeling "flat".
Edited by TriMyBest 2012-02-05 9:58 AM |
2012-02-05 10:00 AM in reply to: #4030159 |
Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one I agree with maintaining intensity during your recovery week. I'd also go a step further and suggest just ditching the recovery week. If your legs start to feel fatigued to the point where you cannot perform as prescribed, just take a day off. Do this as needed, not on a schedule. |
2012-02-05 10:19 AM in reply to: #4030159 |
Member 448 Clemson, SC | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one You mentioned power; do you track tss? If so, you might be able to check and see if you are letting your ctl drop too much during recovery. I like to hold my ctl flat during my recovery week which means my atl will come down to ctl levels, but not lower. That pretty much levels everything out because the faster I am ramping ctl, the more atl will come down, and the more recovery I'll get. I wonder where your tsb is at the end of the recovery week... Keep note of that number so you'll know how much taper you need. I'm still keeping intensity during my recovery week because I do a fair amount of testing. Pretty soon I'll be throwing in some b and c races (5ks/10ks and sprints) during my recovery week to check my progress. |
2012-02-05 10:28 AM in reply to: #4030159 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one First 4 years I trained, I did build weeks then recovery week. I did 3/1 and even 2/1 and towards the end 10 days/4 days. The following year I worked on training consistently and rarely took rest day or rest week. Turns out my body handled consistent volume and intensity (gradually building training load) much better and I felt more even all the time. It had been put in my head that I need to do build/recovery weeks but I found that wasn't true which surprised me. I worked with coaches during this time and my 4th year with same coach found I was tired often and felt fatigued. In hindsight it was my volume was inconsistent that my body didn't handle well. When I switched to consistent training I think I had 3 rest weeks in 8 months. What works for me is to have a weekly schedule that fits into my life that goes from general to race specific as I progress to my goal races. Like Micheal mentioned above, take rest day or two when you need it. |
2012-02-05 11:06 AM in reply to: #4030283 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one KathyG - 2012-02-05 11:28 AM First 4 years I trained, I did build weeks then recovery week. I did 3/1 and even 2/1 and towards the end 10 days/4 days. The following year I worked on training consistently and rarely took rest day or rest week. Turns out my body handled consistent volume and intensity (gradually building training load) much better and I felt more even all the time. It had been put in my head that I need to do build/recovery weeks but I found that wasn't true which surprised me. I worked with coaches during this time and my 4th year with same coach found I was tired often and felt fatigued. In hindsight it was my volume was inconsistent that my body didn't handle well. When I switched to consistent training I think I had 3 rest weeks in 8 months. What works for me is to have a weekly schedule that fits into my life that goes from general to race specific as I progress to my goal races. Like Micheal mentioned above, take rest day or two when you need it. I agree, there's nothing wrong with doing it this way. The traditional 3 weeks on/1 week off or 2 weeks on/1 week off cycle only exists because that's what's convenient for most people's schedules with work & family. Microcycles don't need to be 7 days. They can be anywhere from 2 - 14 days. Moderating volume within each week can accomplish the same thing. For example, 5 days on, 2 days of reduced volume for recovery each week.
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2012-02-05 2:24 PM in reply to: #4030159 |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to try exactly that and retool and see how that goes. This obviously isn't working for me so I'm more than willing to keep trying until I find the right balance.
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2012-02-05 2:28 PM in reply to: #4030274 |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one beebs - 2012-02-05 11:19 AM You mentioned power; do you track tss? If so, you might be able to check and see if you are letting your call drop too much during recovery. I like to hold my ctrl flat during my recovery week which means my atl will come down to ctl levels, but not lower. That pretty much levels everything out because the faster I am ramping ctl, the more at will come down, and the more recovery I'll get. I wonder where your tps is at the end of the recovery week... Keep note of that number so you'll know how much taper you need. I'm still keeping intensity during my recovery week because I do a fair amount of testing. Pretty soon I'll be throwing in some b and c races (5ks/10ks and sprints) during my recovery week to check my progress. I'm a power newbie. Although I track my power its more in a general workout way right now. So I know on my long rides I'll average around 220. A shorter zone 1 ride 190's. A recovery ride 165-175. Intervals or speed intervals 240-255. I haven't worked it out into aggregates for the week but that's the next step. |
2012-02-05 2:39 PM in reply to: #4030283 |
Expert 1481 | Subject: RE: Recovery week into week one KathyG - 2012-02-05 11:28 AM is to have a weekly schedule that fits into my life that goes from general to race specific as I progress to my goal races. Thanks for the advice. I'm from MA as well and I'm doing Patriot and Pumpking this year. I hope the injury recovery is going well and perhaps we'll meet up. |