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2012-08-17 2:01 PM

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Subject: Cycling Chain Ring replacement

I have the following bike:

??Giant TCR Composite (2012)

I'm curious on replaceing my chainrings.  Can someone tell me the current length of my crank or what/where I need to look in order to find out myself.

 



2012-08-17 2:29 PM
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I'm curious on replaceing my chainrings.

If you're looking at replacing your chain rings all you need to know is your BCD (Bolt Circle Diameter).  It looks like your bike came stock with 50/34 rings which are compact and have 110BCD.  Which means you can buy anything with a 110BCD. If you want to check for yourself all information is stamped on the inside of both rings.

Can someone tell me the current length of my crank or what/where I need to look in order to find out myself.

The crank length that Giant spec'd on your bike depends on the size. You can easily find your crank length stamped on the inside of your crank arm near the pedal threads. 



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2012-08-17 2:37 PM
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What are you looking to do with this? That could influence some of the information. And why the chainrings as opposed to the cassette?

As stated, the 50/34 is going to be a Compact because of the 110 BCD. You can just get 52/36 chainrings to replace. If this has been way too small you'll have to go bigger, to the 130 for larger rings.

The crank size will be stamped on the crank. Look for a number close to 170 or 175.

2012-08-17 2:46 PM
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brigby1 - 2012-08-17 3:37 PM

What are you looking to do with this? That could influence some of the information. And why the chainrings as opposed to the cassette?

As stated, the 50/34 is going to be a Compact because of the 110 BCD. You can just get 52/36 chainrings to replace. If this has been way too small you'll have to go bigger, to the 130 for larger rings.

The crank size will be stamped on the crank. Look for a number close to 170 or 175.

I'm thinking mainly down the road.  I'm slowly getting comfortable doing work on my own bike and was curious of the replacement of the crank arms.  Also interested in looking at a 52/36 chainring down the road for the option on flatter courses, and overtime be able to use the 52/36 when I get stronger.

2012-08-17 2:55 PM
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52/36 (aka. mid compact) is a good compromise between a standard and a compact. But you may be better off with your current 50/34 (or better yet 50/36) with a tighter cassette, ex. 12-25 or 11-23 instead of a wider cassette with a 52/36
2012-08-17 3:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Cycling Chain Ring replacement

Swapping chainrings is one of the more simple tasks, though it depends on which chainring bolts you have as to what tools you need.

SRAM currently uses a set-up that takes a 5mm allen key on the outside bolt, and a 6mm allen key on the T-nut. Older SRAM takes a Torx wrench (a pain).

Shimano and most others take a 5mm allen key on the bolt, and a special chainring nut wrench (http://www.parktool.com/product/chainring-nut-wrench-cnw-2).



2012-08-17 3:03 PM
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audiojan - 2012-08-17 3:55 PM 52/36 (aka. mid compact) is a good compromise between a standard and a compact. But you may be better off with your current 50/34 (or better yet 50/36) with a tighter cassette, ex. 12-25 or 11-23 instead of a wider cassette with a 52/36

Right now I'm rocking a 50/34 with a 11-28 in the back.  I also have a 12-25 for my trainer wheel.  What would be the benefits of jumping up to a 52/36 or 50/36 like you suggested with my current cassette options? 

Second question: If I did go with a 52/36 and stayed with a 11-28 or 12-25 would it be that much harder to climb?  Would I really notice the difference?  Or.... would staying with my current set up but getting like a 11-23 allow for a similar ride as a 52/36 with a 11-28?

 

Thanks for all the help guys.

2012-08-17 3:10 PM
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Honestly, it all depends on the terrain you ride/race in and your abilities...

Personally, I'm not a big fan of 11-28... here's the problem... a wide spaced cassette pretty much ensures that you will feel like you're either in a gear that's too easy or one that's too hard. A narrower spaced cassette means that you will have a much smaller step between each gear (especially in the middle).

For most people the 11 cog is near useless... it's really only on the steepest and longest downhills we use it, which accounts for a very small percentage of all the time we're riding... The time loss on a downhill between the 11 and the 12 is usually fairly small. Most of use, spend the most of the time right in the middle of the cassette (where you benefit from a close ratio cassette), and this is where you actually will save quite a bit of time by being in the right gear. Also, you save your legs significantly, which you'll notice on the run.

I have a 52/38 (Q-rings, so not round) on my tri bike with a 12-25 rear. I have a 50/36 with a 12-25 rear on my road bikes. We have lots and lots of hills (long, short, steep and gradual... you can find any combination) here in NH, so I do a fair bit of climbing... never had an issue.
2012-08-17 3:16 PM
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audiojan - 2012-08-17 4:10 PM Honestly, it all depends on the terrain you ride/race in and your abilities... Personally, I'm not a big fan of 11-28... here's the problem... a wide spaced cassette pretty much ensures that you will feel like you're either in a gear that's too easy or one that's too hard. A narrower spaced cassette means that you will have a much smaller step between each gear (especially in the middle). For most people the 11 cog is near useless... it's really only on the steepest and longest downhills we use it, which accounts for a very small percentage of all the time we're riding... The time loss on a downhill between the 11 and the 12 is usually fairly small. Most of use, spend the most of the time right in the middle of the cassette (where you benefit from a close ratio cassette), and this is where you actually will save quite a bit of time by being in the right gear. Also, you save your legs significantly, which you'll notice on the run. I have a 52/38 (Q-rings, so not round) on my tri bike with a 12-25 rear. I have a 50/36 with a 12-25 rear on my road bikes. We have lots and lots of hills (long, short, steep and gradual... you can find any combination) here in NH, so I do a fair bit of climbing... never had an issue.

I'm finished with tris at the moment so no need to worry about the run   But great thoughts on the 12 and 11 comparison.  I live in Northern VA near DC so there aren't a ton of hills but my usually range from short steep .2-.6 of a mile climbs around 6-9% and then longer 1.2-1.8 mile 3-5% climbs.  I haven't really attempted the mountains out near West Va quite yet.

2012-08-17 3:20 PM
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Dlaxman31 - 2012-08-17 3:03 PM

audiojan - 2012-08-17 3:55 PM 52/36 (aka. mid compact) is a good compromise between a standard and a compact. But you may be better off with your current 50/34 (or better yet 50/36) with a tighter cassette, ex. 12-25 or 11-23 instead of a wider cassette with a 52/36

Right now I'm rocking a 50/34 with a 11-28 in the back.  I also have a 12-25 for my trainer wheel.  What would be the benefits of jumping up to a 52/36 or 50/36 like you suggested with my current cassette options? 

There isn't really a need to move up in the size unless you're running out of gears a lot. Not so much on the steep downhills, but on sections you hold for some time.

Second question: If I did go with a 52/36 and stayed with a 11-28 or 12-25 would it be that much harder to climb?  Would I really notice the difference?  Or.... would staying with my current set up but getting like a 11-23 allow for a similar ride as a 52/36 with a 11-28?

 Thanks for all the help guys.

34 to 36 would be noticeable, but not necessarily that much harder. How are you doing now? Do you have to push it in the bottom gear often? If you can make the climbs at a cadence you're ok with a gear or two off the bottom, you're likely ok to get a tighter cassette.

And jan is right about the spacing on the 11-28. The bottom half has a lot of gaps in it. If you're likely to need that range for awhile and want to do something about it, something like a 12-27 or 12-28 should help some.

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2012-08-18 5:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Cycling Chain Ring replacement
Dlaxman31 - 2012-08-17 12:01 PM

Can someone tell me the current length of my crank or what/where I need to look in order to find out myself.

 

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