Anyone ever loose a training partner b/c of spouse? (Page 3)
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PatsyID - 2012-09-27 6:33 PM anyway, as far as me seeking advice that only supports my opinion, well, that's not really the case, I can easily see why spouse is pissed, not hard but I take umbrage in your original post relating to my club activities and your "senses" or whatever b/c I'm sick of said spouse thinking I'm some floozy or God knows what but I know it's nothing good and then to have you pile on it just didn't sit well. I am not "wallflower" type so if my back gets up I'm gonna share my thoughts, then you can share yours but don't expect me to feel bad and not say anything, I don't work that way. Peace out! i get it. Her discomfort has a hint of accusation, and it is at both of you. Part of your understandable reaction is "what does she think of ME?" There is a common cultural dysfunction we have related to our beliefs about the male and female libidos, that sometimes unconsciously, sometimes straight out gives a guy a pass on bad behavior because you know, we're just hormonal monsters and it's up to women to civilize us. So the onus is on the "other female" and she bears more responsibility. Not right, not fair, but it's part of our thinking nonetheless. No one is slow enough to train with me, so I don't have this problem. But when I entered 12step, I sought out a sponsor who understood the relationship with food and endurance sports. I connected well with a sponsor who is a very attractive woman. I asked my wife if this would make her uncomfortable, due to the closeness of a sponsor-sponsee relationship. Fact is, there are so few men in OA, I had no male options in my circles. Her response "just always meet in public and don't go anywhere in a car together." Parameters for the appearance of impropriety. Those were hers. Honestly, it sounds like your training partner's spouse has issues beyond that, and again, I see how you took it as a more personal accusation. |
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![]() hmmm when i saw the title, the first thing i thought was 'has anyone ever lost a spouse because of a training partner"..... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PatsyID - 2012-09-26 9:32 PM Sous - 2012-09-26 2:27 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-09-25 10:19 PM That sucks you had to go through that mess. That said, I was struck by one sentence:
Church or no church, I've seen enough to know it makes no difference.
I agree with this, when I was reading this the first thing I said to myself was "what does that have to do with anything." I was also struck by the statement that the club isn't very active, so its easier for you to text/email/call each other to set up training... and then you went on to say that the proverbial 'straw' was that you were cleaning up after a race this inactive club puts on. Maybe its me and my background, but this raised my spidey senses... maybe it did for her as well. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, but if it were my investigation these statements alone would make me want to dig deeper. You got it Phill I'm a man stealing christian who likes to help out my club when asked, yep, your spidey senses are top notch.
Anyway, thank you everyone else for your thoughts, I think your consesus is right, I just don't know what their relationship is like but obviously his spouse is not cool with me being his trainng partner so that's that. I actually do take it personally, b/c I know she's thinking all these wrong horrible things about me....achk, screw it, her problem, I soo need a female partner so I don't have to deal with this crap again. Patsy Didn't read all the responses. Here's the reality... 65% of women are insanely jealous of other women. Yes, I just pulled that % out of my @ss. ![]() Now days though I'm not the jealous type. I figured out in my late 20's that insecurity is unattractive, no matter how hot you are. Confidence is sexy. Plain and simple. Anyways, most women don't get this. Instead, to try to hang on to their man, they act all silly and read into situations and see "things" when nothing is going on. This is her. It's not you. They could have a perfect relationship. If she's insecure, she's insecure. My ex husband was a very insecure and jealous man. No matter how much I told him I loved him, proved I was dedicated to only him, he always found something to complain about. Always looked for "examples" where I showed otherwise. There was no pleasing him. That's just how some people are. They are going to find something no matter what. You were her focus this time around. Next time around it will be something else since you aren't in the picture. Just go find a new training partner (which I know can be hard). Obviously try to find a woman (can be even harder!), but if you can't, if you do get a male training partner who is married, make sure to meet his wife at the start. Invite her to lunch, etc. Always go out of your way to include her in activities, etc. At least do what you can to make her feel secure that things are on the up and up. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TheClaaaw - 2012-09-27 6:41 PM PatsyID - 2012-09-27 6:33 PM anyway, as far as me seeking advice that only supports my opinion, well, that's not really the case, I can easily see why spouse is pissed, not hard but I take umbrage in your original post relating to my club activities and your "senses" or whatever b/c I'm sick of said spouse thinking I'm some floozy or God knows what but I know it's nothing good and then to have you pile on it just didn't sit well. I am not "wallflower" type so if my back gets up I'm gonna share my thoughts, then you can share yours but don't expect me to feel bad and not say anything, I don't work that way. Peace out! i get it. Her discomfort has a hint of accusation, and it is at both of you. Part of your understandable reaction is "what does she think of ME?" There is a common cultural dysfunction we have related to our beliefs about the male and female libidos, that sometimes unconsciously, sometimes straight out gives a guy a pass on bad behavior because you know, we're just hormonal monsters and it's up to women to civilize us. So the onus is on the "other female" and she bears more responsibility. Not right, not fair, but it's part of our thinking nonetheless. No one is slow enough to train with me, so I don't have this problem. But when I entered 12step, I sought out a sponsor who understood the relationship with food and endurance sports. I connected well with a sponsor who is a very attractive woman. I asked my wife if this would make her uncomfortable, due to the closeness of a sponsor-sponsee relationship. Fact is, there are so few men in OA, I had no male options in my circles. Her response "just always meet in public and don't go anywhere in a car together." Parameters for the appearance of impropriety. Those were hers. Honestly, it sounds like your training partner's spouse has issues beyond that, and again, I see how you took it as a more personal accusation. When two married people are meeting with someone other than their spouse, they should think about how things will be perceived and should probably take care to put themselves in situations that are "safe". It's fair. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Climbinggonzo - 2012-09-26 3:28 PM Here's another point of view, albeit extremely skewed and probably more info than anyone needed to know, but like someone else said, maybe there's issues in their marriage that are compounding the jealousy: My wife runs alot, she trains and runs up to marathons, even thinking about getting into Ultras, and she is a much faster runner than me. There's no point in us even trying to run together, because we're talking about a 2 min/mile difference. But she insists that training is much easier for her when she has a running partner. Problem is, her most compatible running partner is this a-hole that she had an affair with a few years ago, and although she insists and I'm trying to believe it's over, she still wants to be friends with him and run with him on occasion. Naturally I'm not at all cool with that. But, we also have a running group here in town, and there's another male runner who is close to her pace, she gets along with him and likes to run with him. He's very much so the "church going type". But after hearing just a little too much about him and her talking about him and his running to much, I flipped my lid and said I was uncomfortable with the way she talks about him and uncomfortable with them running together. What's my point? This is an example of how easy it is to be jealous when you're the outsider (me) looking in at the close partnership that training partners tend to have. But, I'm sorry that you are losing a training partner, a good one can be surprisingly hard to come by sometimes. Good luck and hopefully it will work out! Eh yeah, picking an ex that she had an affair with... not cool. There are too many runners in this world to say he's the ONLY one she can run with. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thankfully no. My training buddy is the best! We are great friends and encourage each other along as we train and do races. My wife has met her and thinks she is super and I have met her husband and all is good. I can see where this would be very frustrating for you and a big let down. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Patsy (D), Might I recommend Lactic Acid Cycling in Boise. They seem to be a pretty active co-ed group, might be able to find a good buddy there. http://www.lacticacidcycling.org/ I know at least a few of them are triathletes. I learned about the club from a lady named Lisa Kolesaar, she is a physical therapist that worked on me. She does tri's and is involved in the club. Might be worth hooking up with them for a ride. I would join but the price of gas keeps me from driving to Boise to ride with people. Edited by Aarondb4 2012-09-28 1:34 PM |
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