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2012-10-02 2:04 PM

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We've got the Oil Man HIM coming up in just over a month.  Hwy 149 which goes through the National Forest has been repaved, at least the portion I've been on. Training on the road, which is part of the Oil Man bike course, is kinda tough since there isn't much of a shoulder.  Cars go barreling through their pretty quick.  But from what I've heard, the road surfaces were horrible last year.  

 

Has anyone else been riding the bike course lately?  How is it?



2012-10-02 4:01 PM
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hmmm... no shoulder?  Just signed up for this race.  On top of the road condition question- how much traffic is there on race day?  Or is it a closed course?
2012-10-02 4:26 PM
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I did Oilman last year and the course was not completely paved. I have been on it THIS year and it is great!!

U do have to be careful with traffic as the shoulder room is minimal in some places....but it is a great course.

Yes it is a closed course on race day.

Happy Training,

Karen



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2012-10-03 1:00 PM
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Karen Newman - 2012-10-02 4:26 PM

I did Oilman last year and the course was not completely paved. I have been on it THIS year and it is great!!

U do have to be careful with traffic as the shoulder room is minimal in some places....but it is a great course.

Yes it is a closed course on race day.

Happy Training,

Karen

 

Thanks Karen.  I knew the road was closed during race day but my concern was training.  I live in the Woodlands and ride on Hwy 149 but as it goes into the national forest, at least for a few miles, there is no shoulder.  The new road is great though, just curious how far into the national forest until the road opens up more.

2012-10-08 9:17 AM
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I ride the 149 section of this course almost every weekend. It's in excellent shape all the way to the Grimes county line. Once you hit Grimes County, the surface changes from smooth asphalt to a "light to medium" chip seal. The chip seal is not great, but it's really not too bad either. Much better then some of the "bad" chip seal in other parts of the state. Shoulders are not huge, but once you get out of Montgomery (north of FM 1097) traffic is ususally pretty light and it's a pretty safe ride. The wooden bridge on Johnson Road was also just resurfaced and is in much better shape. 
2012-10-08 10:24 AM
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I rode most of the course (begin/end at Wal-Mart) yesterday.  For the most part, the surfaces were very good.  There are a couple of stretches of chip-seal, but nothing bad at all.  I was surprised by how smooth the roads were, especially with the past comments about this course.

Definitely more hills than I expected.  Nothing major, but quite a few rollers.  Glad I rode it beforehand.



2012-10-08 11:36 AM
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unless something has changed it has never been a closed course.  The deer hunters will already be off the road and traffic is always somewhat light out there.

2012-10-08 12:27 PM
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I think I read Houston Racing is having an organized ride out there on the 20th.  Just FYI.
2012-10-21 7:43 PM
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I do hope something has changed and it is indeed a "closed course."  I did it in 2010 and it was bumper to  bumper vehicular traffic on 149 for a couple miles near Montgomery. Someone said it was because there were bike riders riding two abreast ahead somewhere.  But I don't know.
2012-10-31 11:14 AM
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I have done this Race Twice
The Bike Course has never been a closed course
It is roughly half of The IM TX course which also is not closed
2012-11-01 9:19 AM
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Drove the whole course the other day, the majority of the roads look nice and new with some exceptions.


2012-11-01 12:54 PM
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I rode it 2 weeks ago.  It's fine.  You can definitely tell where the county line is though.  The chip seal in Grimes County (?) isn't that bad though. 
2012-11-01 1:05 PM
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uhcoog - 2012-11-01 12:54 PM I rode it 2 weeks ago.  It's fine.  You can definitely tell where the county line is though.  The chip seal in Grimes County (?) isn't that bad though. 

 

Good on you for riding it.  There is hardly any shoulder and people fly through the turns in the national forest.

2012-11-02 3:25 AM
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Also because there's no viable traffic control plan and no warning to residents or traffic that regularly flows through that area warning them about the event. Maybe that will change some day. If it does, the bumper to bumper traffic will improve. Only way it would be a closed course (or partially) is if he figured out a way to do it all on 4 lane roads. You can't close a 2 lane road with houses and businesses on it. County won't allow it.
2012-11-02 8:57 AM
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onurleft - 2012-11-02 3:25 AM Also because there's no viable traffic control plan and no warning to residents or traffic that regularly flows through that area warning them about the event. Maybe that will change some day. If it does, the bumper to bumper traffic will improve. Only way it would be a closed course (or partially) is if he figured out a way to do it all on 4 lane roads. You can't close a 2 lane road with houses and businesses on it. County won't allow it.

 

Good point.  On a side note, there might be rain Sunday; let's hope they don't cancel the bike portion and make this an expensive Aqua-Run.

2012-11-02 9:15 AM
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onurleft - 2012-11-02 3:25 AM Also because there's no viable traffic control plan and no warning to residents or traffic that regularly flows through that area warning them about the event. Maybe that will change some day. If it does, the bumper to bumper traffic will improve. Only way it would be a closed course (or partially) is if he figured out a way to do it all on 4 lane roads. You can't close a 2 lane road with houses and businesses on it. County won't allow it.

 

Good point.  On a side note, there might be rain Sunday; let's hope they don't cancel the bike portion and make this an expensive Aqua-Run.

Channel 13 said Sunday night/Monday morning.  I'm hopeful.

 

Oh and Aaron we could use an iron distance race with how well your company takes care of the details.  I'd imagine that's quite the logistical headache though.



2012-11-02 9:47 AM
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Headache yes but worth the reward for everyone all things considered. The only reason I haven't done a half or full is because I would need to see 800-1,500 people in it and unfortunately even though our brand is recognized it doesn't leave people with the satisfaction of being an "IRONMAN." Not sure even we could get the numbers. Although, I may be underselling what we could draw in. Thoughts?
2012-11-02 9:57 AM
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I think you could draw it, especially if your San Antonio and DFW ventures go well.  I don't see the Ironman name as being a drawing point for a 70.3 IMO.  I just want the attention to detail that comes along with the brand in most cases.  As far as fulls the branding issue is real; however, it doesn't seem to be a problem for Beach 2 Battleship or the Vineman Full because of their reputations, but I'd imagine that is a hard nut to crack.
2012-11-02 10:07 AM
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I have to agree with uchcoog.  A 70.3 would be a great start, your brand is known in the region and respected i believe.  You put together a well organized race.  Having the Kemah area or The Woodlands for the 70.3 would be awesome - plenty to look at and a great venue.  However, not sure if The Woodlands would agree.  They put up with plenty of crap after IMTX from the surrounding area.
2012-11-02 1:23 PM
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onurleft - 2012-11-02 9:47 AM Headache yes but worth the reward for everyone all things considered. The only reason I haven't done a half or full is because I would need to see 800-1,500 people in it and unfortunately even though our brand is recognized it doesn't leave people with the satisfaction of being an "IRONMAN." Not sure even we could get the numbers. Although, I may be underselling what we could draw in. Thoughts?

I think you could pull in enough people.  You sell out every Tri you put on.

The challenge would be finding the right venue.  I do think Kemah might work, or somewhere new like Lake Houston (I've never been in it so no idea what the water is like)..... although West Houston works better for me, but we don't have the big water areas.

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onurleft - 2012-11-02 9:47 AM Headache yes but worth the reward for everyone all things considered. The only reason I haven't done a half or full is because I would need to see 800-1,500 people in it and unfortunately even though our brand is recognized it doesn't leave people with the satisfaction of being an "IRONMAN." Not sure even we could get the numbers. Although, I may be underselling what we could draw in. Thoughts?

Also, does the 800-1500 hold true if it was tied to another distance.  If you added a HIM on to Kemah would you need as many to make it work?



2012-11-06 11:11 AM
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Back to the original topic- the bike course was great!  Very smooth and scenic.  Hills were just that- I only think there was one remotely steep climb.  There was some traffic but not too bad.

 

For those that did this race- I have a cheap cycle computer and know it is not real accurate but when I finally saw a marker- mile 40- my odometer showed nearly 45.  That was pretty discouraging as I thought I was  making pretty good time.  However, next thing I know we're done and my computer shows a little over 56.  Short course? Really bad odomoter? Mismarked?

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Back to the original topic- the bike course was great!  Very smooth and scenic.  Hills were just that- I only think there was one remotely steep climb.  There was some traffic but not too bad.

 

For those that did this race- I have a cheap cycle computer and know it is not real accurate but when I finally saw a marker- mile 40- my odometer showed nearly 45.  That was pretty discouraging as I thought I was  making pretty good time.  However, next thing I know we're done and my computer shows a little over 56.  Short course? Really bad odomoter? Mismarked?

My 305 was about 2 miles ahead of the markers too.  I think I noticed at about mile 30.  It went all fritzy on the run so I haven't really looked at my data yet.

2012-11-06 12:08 PM
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My garmin 910 was almost 5 miles ahead of the markers too.  Once we made the turn off of Johnson road, I knew the markers were wrong.
2012-11-06 12:09 PM
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I ended up with 55.65 miles total.  But yea, mile "40" sign was at more like mile 44.  Made me doubt my electronics (garmin 305).  Yes roads were good.
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