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2009-08-10 1:25 PM

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Subject: Lessons from my bike crash

I wanted to take a moment to post separately about my bike crash during the race yesterday in hopes that other newbys might benefit from it.

My race had a bike course that was a two lap circuit.  After a quick spin around the parking lot, you exited out onto the main course to make your first of two laps.  It was also the point where people finishing their first laps started their second.  The last stretch before the turn onto the main course was a fifty yard downhill that was guarded on either side by hills and trees.  I was watching the folks ahead of me go into the right hand turn.  I never saw anyone coming in from the left into their second lap.  As I got to the bottom of the hill, I started into my turn focusing on actually making my turn.  In a flash, I had another biker zooming right in front of my wheel.  I never saw her.  I never heard her.  She was just there, and she was flying.  I made evasive maneuvers and hit the brakes hard.  I just missed taking out her rear wheel.  I ended up putting myself into a slide and landing on the concrete median.  A half mile into the bike portion of my first tri and I’m on my a$$ in a bleeding pile.  Not exactly how I planned it. 

Here are my lessons from the accident:

(1)   I missed the walkthrough on Saturday for a family reunion (seven hours driving for two hours on the ground—not that I’m bitter).  Looking at a map isn’t good enough.  It was my responsibility to know that was a spot where I could get in trouble and think and plan accordingly.  The first time I saw that spot was riding it.  I wasn’t familiar enough to process the fact that faster riders could be coming in from the left and that I couldn’t see them.

(2)   KSH gave me advice last week about being aware of your surroundings on the bike at all times.  I came up short there.  I should have recognized the turn ahead was not risk-free.  Just because I hadn’t seen someone come from the left, didn’t mean there wasn’t someone coming from the left.  I know I focused on my turn to the exclusion of my surroundings. 

(3)   Finally, you have so much less control of your bike when you are in a 90 degree turn.  Seriously, how many times do you practice doing 90 degree turns at speed?  Watching where you are going and watching for oncoming traffic at the same time?  I don’t think I was going recklessly fast, but I didn’t leave myself room for error. 

If I had done a better job, I might have avoided the aches and pains and cuts and bruises I’m suffering today.  I’ll heal; it’s the price I’ll pay for not being more vigilant.  But it is in my head how close I came to taking out her back wheel.  She would have ended up in far worse shape than I was.  For your safety and the safety of others, I hope this helps.



2009-08-10 1:34 PM
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Thanks for the cautionary reminder.  I crashed badly on railroad tracks last year (hospital action).  An experienced rider had told me that day, "Be careful with the railroad tracks out there."  Now if someone gives me safety advice about a particular location, I ask them to elaborate/be more specific, and I pay attention!

2009-08-10 1:43 PM
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It's good you take this as a learning experience however I think the race should have also probably provided better traffic control at such a key location (unless you didn't see that either!)

A lot of my races have a turn around point for the spinters that's sooner than the oly (and sometimes HIMers).

There are two issues that come up.  One, the sprinters slow down and cut to the left to circle the cones and start heading back.  If you are doing the oly, you have to be aware and not try to pass in this location because they could cut you off.

Second, there could by a fast oly racer who is aready coming back and the sprinter could be really concerned about making the turn and never look to see if someone is comming.

BUT, I have to say, they have several people working the race to yell cautions and direct traffic at this critical location.  If your race didn't, they should have have people warning you as you approach the main course, IMO.
2009-08-10 2:13 PM
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As I was there, I think your points are really valuable and I agree with them.

There were only four of us that I could see on Saturday looking over the bike route.  I drove it instead of riding it because it was FREAKING HOT outside but I did notice that that particular intersection would be tricky.  At the time I was only thinking about it being tricky in the trying-not-to-get-hit-by-a-car sense since the director said the roads would be open to traffic.  However, now I realize that that was a dangerous situation for cyclists, too.

I don't remember if that intersection was well marked by cones to separate out the 2nd loopers from the people starting their first loop.  However, the directions from the volunteers weren't specific so who knows what that other cyclist was thinking as she flew through.  If she was going really fast, that suggests she knew what she was doing, which would make you think she'd have tried to avoid you.  Not sure, but it sucks that that's how your bike route started out. I hope your knees are doing better and that your bike is okay.   You might take it into the LBS to make sure everything is aligned correctly, etc.  Was your bike computer damaged?  I remember you said it went flying.

Edited by happyshoes 2009-08-10 2:15 PM
2009-08-10 3:02 PM
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The bike is at my LBS getting tuned back up.  Cheap bike computer's future is still to be determined after the front wheel is brought back as close to true as possible.

I emailed the race director and walked through everything that happened with her.  Did I make my turn too wide?  I really don't think so.  Did the other competitor cut in too fast?  I have no idea.  Was my turn not guarded by cones or was there not a marshal there shouting out instructions?  Probably. 

There were probably things the other rider or the race organizers could have done to make the accident less likely to have occured, but I wanted to focus this thread on what I could have done--the things I could have controlled for and didn't.

2009-08-10 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Lessons from my bike crash
KarmannGhia - 2009-08-10 3:02 PM

The bike is at my LBS getting tuned back up.  Cheap bike computer's future is still to be determined after the front wheel is brought back as close to true as possible.

I emailed the race director and walked through everything that happened with her.  Did I make my turn too wide?  I really don't think so.  Did the other competitor cut in too fast?  I have no idea.  Was my turn not guarded by cones or was there not a marshal there shouting out instructions?  Probably. 

There were probably things the other rider or the race organizers could have done to make the accident less likely to have occured, but I wanted to focus this thread on what I could have done--the things I could have controlled for and didn't.



Eh, that racer was probably going fast and she wasn't caring about what SHE was doing... and all she cared about was NOT slowing down. I have seen far too many "experienced" racers on courses who take HUGE risks... just so they don't have to slow down.

I have had people pass me with only inches to spare. They are taking a huge risk when they do that. They don't KNOW me. I might be a new rider. I might not see them. I might dodge a pothole. Who knows. They are trusting me way too much when they do that and it annoys me to no end- especially when they can pass with more space between the two of us!

I know for me, while I HATE slowing down... I will slow down for corners and dangerous passing situations. I care more about not having a wreck and not making someone else have a wreck.

Anyways, don't ever trust intersections... even if they have cops, volunteers, etc.

You did what you could man, it was a freak accident. It happens. At least you didn't break a bone and you were able to finish the race.





2009-08-10 5:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Lessons from my bike crash

Just to summarize:  Short downhill with a sharp right-hand turn.  You got buzzed from the left, swerved, and crashed. 

Did you maintain a "normal" line through the turn, or were you drifting to the left past the apex?  You have an obligation to stay as far to the right as possible, but this doesn't mean hugging the white line.  (It's easy to get sloppy here, especially since it allows us to go a little faster. )

The other cyclist has an obligation to pass safely and not put you at risk, especially since the other cyclist *should* see you and be planning accordingly.  (At the same time, that rider also has to be aware that an even faster cyclist may be coming, and so shouldn't be all the way on the yellow line.)  It's possible the other cyclist misjudged your speed as slower than you were going and what should have been adequate room wasn't.  It's also possible that the other cyclist was being very sloppy starting far to the left, drifting right, and ending far to the left again which can allow for the highest speed through the turn. 

Yea, be aware of your surroundings.  Leave yourself an out (which is why I usually ride 12-18" to the left of the white line)  Tangling with her would have probably whipped your front wheel around, flinging you through the air rather than sliding. 

If you haven't done so already, take a really good look at your helmet.  Any scuff from sliding in the accident or cracks of any size in the styrofoam == replace the helmet. Otherwise, road rash heals and bike parts are replaceable.   

2009-08-10 6:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Lessons from my bike crash

Sounds like the other rider was in a sense at fault; not technically, but caused the accident. 

The thing with tri's is you have all kinds of different riders, I've had people intentionally bump me to be cute and others outright panic in the form of wobbling to a near crash when I passed them.   I 'try' to take the safe route but have been known to weave through a slow pack.  

Always assume the other riders are going to do something stupid, they usually don't dissapoint.

2009-08-10 8:35 PM
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Thanks McF for the tip about checking my helmet.  That makes a lot of sense. 

And just to clarify, it was a T intersection where first lappers came down hill and made a right as second lappers were coming from left to right.  My best guess is that the other rider had to be the race leader or near leader on the women’s side given that I hit that spot about 20 or so minutes after the first swimmer went into the pool.  She was moving very fast.  My best reconstruction of things is that she was to the right because there was no one telling her to go left or cones forcing her left.  She didn’t have enough time to react to me and wouldn’t have seen me until very late, and I admittedly wasn’t looking for her.  I am pretty certain our paths crossed just as I started into my turn.  Short version is that as I braked, my bike computer ejected forward.  Its final resting place was the center line, suggesting I wasn’t into my turn long enough to have swung too wide.

Unfortunate incident and an opportunity to learn from it.

2009-08-10 8:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Lessons from my bike crash
furiousferret - 2009-08-10 4:03 PM

Sounds like the other rider was in a sense at fault; not technically, but caused the accident. 

The thing with tri's is you have all kinds of different riders, I've had people intentionally bump me to be cute and others outright panic in the form of wobbling to a near crash when I passed them.   I 'try' to take the safe route but have been known to weave through a slow pack.  

Always assume the other riders are going to do something stupid, they usually don't dissapoint.



Umm...pretend for a moment that the "other rider" in this scenario was a car.  A car driving along a thoroughfare as you approach a T-intersection on your bike, preparing to make a right turn.  The car has no stop sign controlling its direction-of-travel.

So, you're saying if you took a wide right turn on your bike into the path of the oncoming car it would be the driver's fault if you were hit?  FAIL.

Sounds like--at best--it was poor planning or insufficient marshalling by the race organizers.  Esp. given the OP's statement in recent post that the "other rider" might have been the race leader, I somehow have a hard time thinking anyone laid out the course expecting that athlete to lay on the brakes to avoid someone merging out of what sounds like it was--essentially--the exit from T1.  And if there were no cones to move riders completing their first laps out to accomodate the merging riders starting that lap, then the rules specify that athletes are to ride to the right.  Period.

I don't think I've ever competed in a tri where it wasn't stated in either published rules or pre-race briefing that "rules of the road" are in force.  In that situation, the person making the right turn really has to yield to the through traffic.  And I appreciate that the OP was forthcoming about how the situation maybe could have been avoided.  Personally, I wish more cyclists were that self-critical about how they deal with intersections, on the course or off.
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