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Subject: Mens Health Replys to "Why Exercise Won’t Make You Thin" by Time Mag
http://mhtoday.menshealth.com/2009/08/is-exercise-a-waste-of-time.html

Great article by mens health responding to the recent Time Magazine Article.


2009-08-24 1:27 PM
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Great Article.  To bad more people probably pick up Time and read that article then picking up Men's Health to read this one.  I'm glad that David Zinczenko is calling them out
2009-08-24 1:28 PM
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It is sad that most of those points needed to be made in the first place.
2009-08-24 3:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Mens Health Replys to "Why Exercise Won’t Make You Thin" by Time Mag
Calorie Lab did a great fact-check on the Time article as well.

http://calorielab.com/news/2009/08/22/exercise-weight-loss-benefits/
2009-08-24 3:30 PM
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eabeam - 2009-08-24 2:28 PM It is sad that most of those points needed to be made in the first place.


Couldnt agree more
2009-08-24 3:32 PM
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Sadly, the Time article is now online and will be cited in internet debates all across the interwebnet.  See!  I told you I was right!  LOL


2009-08-24 4:25 PM
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While I got annoyed at the time cover before I even opened it walking from my mailbox to my house later after reading it I got the point the author was making. Unfortunately the title, the picture, and I'm sure most of the people reading it will take it as simple fact that exercise was bad for weightloss. This MH rebuttle is taking this same approach that the final word of the article was exercise makes you fat. The main point to the time article was really more people are lazy and have no will power and due to this we think we can reward ourselves with high calorie foods and this balances it out since we just worked out, and more often then not reward ourselves with more calories than we worked off. While the study might now have shown that specifically we've all witnessed it or done it. They didn't make comments int he article about exercise making you hungry like the MH article claimed they just said people have no self control, which we know is true.

So while I thought the Time article was stupid I don't think this one is any better as just like Time twisted some of how they presented the data to sell magazines MH did exactly the same thing here twisting what the time article was saying only commenting on how they intepreted small parts of it.

Bottom line is both articles are not to help or inform you they are simply to insight emotions and sell magazines.. both did their job there, well other than I already get Time and read this one for  free online.

Off for wings and beer and I didn't even work out today.. I just don't have any food at home and its been a few weeks since I had me some taco mac   I'll still end up with a caloric deficit for the day since I forgot my lunch at home.
2009-08-24 5:02 PM
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mrtopher1980 - 2009-08-24 2:25 PM While I got annoyed at the time cover before I even opened it walking from my mailbox to my house later after reading it I got the point the author was making. Unfortunately the title, the picture, and I'm sure most of the people reading it will take it as simple fact that exercise was bad for weightloss. T...
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Bottom line is both articles are not to help or inform you they are simply to insight emotions and sell magazines.. both did their job there, well other than I already get Time and read this one for  free online.
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My take-away message is that it is a further indictment on the quality of science education in America.
2009-08-24 7:50 PM
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eabeam - 2009-08-24 6:02 PM
mrtopher1980 - 2009-08-24 2:25 PM While I got annoyed at the time cover before I even opened it walking from my mailbox to my house later after reading it I got the point the author was making. Unfortunately the title, the picture, and I'm sure most of the people reading it will take it as simple fact that exercise was bad for weightloss. T...
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Bottom line is both articles are not to help or inform you they are simply to insight emotions and sell magazines.. both did their job there, well other than I already get Time and read this one for  free online.
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My take-away message is that it is a further indictment on the quality of science education in America.


Don't you think that is way to broad of a brush to paint based on one author's point of view?  I explain this to my children all the time.  A single school teacher, or new article does not mean you truly have evidence of fact.  People are people, they are educated or indoctrinated to think a certain way and via persuasive writing, they often try to steer folks to think along their lines.  Sadly, some of the best writers are the worst when it comes to facts.  Some of the best IT people can't work with people. 

I read an article last year that explained why you should run regular gas in your cars and how it was silly that people still purchased anything above 87 octane.  I wrote a letter to the editor pointing our various vehicles with forced induction which could easily suffer from detonation by running low octane fuel.  I actually got a response saying, "oops, we didn't know that."  They updated the article right away.
2009-08-24 9:37 PM
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I think the time article was a disservice to the readers.
However, it is great in that it may spark debate and clarification.
2009-08-25 7:43 AM
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eliwashere - 2009-08-24 7:37 PM I think the time article was a disservice to the readers.
However, it is great in that it may spark debate and clarification.


Yeah, to the people that already work-out.
The others already left for the buffet.


2009-08-25 8:01 AM
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I think the great disservice the Times article did has little to do with what the article actually said.  Like most people I didn’t read the whole article.  I skimmed it and by doing that got that they were saying, "You don't need to work out, it’s not going to help you in the long run".  It adds to the self defeating attitude that we have in America that nothing is our fault.  I'm not saying that the article argued that weight is a genetic issue.  But I'm saying that by skimming it, it wasn't hard for me to see how allot of people would use the study in the article as  "scientific" proof for why its not there fault they are fat, or why watching that Simpsons marathon has the same effect on there weight as running the Boston Marathon.  On the other hand the Men’s Health article, while I didn't read the whole thing before posting it, (I skimmed it to, that’s what I do) has a jist that exercise is good and positive and better than not exercising every time.  I got the message of personal responsibility from it.  I think that is a much better message to feed a lazy public that is looking for something other than the fact that they eat too much and they are lazy for why they are fat.

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eabeam - 2009-08-24 6:02 PM
mrtopher1980 - 2009-08-24 2:25 PM While I got annoyed at the time cover before I even opened it walking from my mailbox to my house later after reading it I got the point the author was making. Unfortunately the title, the picture, and I'm sure most of the people reading it will take it as simple fact that exercise was bad for weightloss. T...
.

Bottom line is both articles are not to help or inform you they are simply to insight emotions and sell magazines.. both did their job there, well other than I already get Time and read this one for  free online.
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My take-away message is that it is a further indictment on the quality of science education in America.


I don't think it actually has anything to do with science or education and everything to do with writing and the manipulation that one can do with the information they have. Both articles just manipulated the data to fit what they needed. IT says more about the state of writing and the press than it does science or even exercise.

I didn't just skim either article I read both of them completely and was actually more annoyed with the MH article than the Time article since the HM article came off pretentious and holier than though, while if you actually READ the entire time article word for word you got the point, no where did it say don't exercise.

I do agree that unfortunately most will probably skim them as it even seems true here and only get from the Time article (and probably more people unfortunately) that exercise is bad. But really it just goes more to the point of what the article was really saying that people are lazy and have no self control, always looking for the way out. The fact that they'll just skim it and not read it reinforces what it says somewhat indirectly.

MH is able to stay in print because they are in the fitness business did you expect any other kind of response from them? At least he reason for their bias is clear, not sure what times intentions were.

This weeks cover story, which i didn't fully read yet, is about how Americas obsession with cheap and quick growing/raising of food is affecting our health negatively. I'd bet they still missed half the facts but most people here would probably agree with them. You go over to a BBQ forum and I bet they are freaking out like everyone here did about the exercise article..
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