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2008-09-21 1:34 PM

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Subject: Wow, now I know why they're called "bricks."

That's about what my legs felt like when I started the run leg.

It was strange--I did a moderate 8 miles at below race pace, then took off on the run. I was feeling well hydrated, etc. etc. but still felt extreme heaviness in my legs and a little bit of nausea. A half mile into it I felt fine. 

I'm guessing it'll just take time and training to make for a smoother T2, but does anyone else have any tricks for T2?



2008-09-21 1:39 PM
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2008-09-21 2:12 PM
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Subject: RE: Wow, now I know why they're called "bricks."
did my first "brick" yesterday...I did a 14.5 mile ride to the pool...then 1200 yards(1x200 warmup 4x200's swim and 1x200 of kickboard)...then got on the bike and rode 14.5 miles home...running after than was not even an option...absolutely positively most definately never ever crossed my mind as something that I might want to do after all of that...
2008-09-21 2:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Wow, now I know why they're called "bricks."

That is how it feels. I used to always find when I ran off the bike a certain corner my legs always seemed to feel better.

After doing bricks for 5 years my legs seem to deal with it better. I recall a brick this June after a 7-8 hour ride, I just laughed at how goofy my legs felt running but it went away pretty quickly.

2008-09-21 3:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Wow, now I know why they're called "bricks."
Yep, they suck.  Keep doing them.  It will help your body & your mind to know it's totally normal.  You'll eventually get to know about how far into the run that you'll start to feel like you've got your regular running legs back.  
2008-09-21 3:01 PM
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KathyG - 2008-09-21 3:51 PM

That is how it feels. I used to always find when I ran off the bike a certain corner my legs always seemed to feel better.

After doing bricks for 5 years my legs seem to deal with it better. I recall a brick this June after a 7-8 hour ride, I just laughed at how goofy my legs felt running but it went away pretty quickly.

Hehe... I'll get there one day.

I see you're from MA--I was just in Boston for a few days for a conference... Great place to run. I got a good few miles in along the Charles and got a bunch of laps around Boston Common. Really my favorite "big city" that I've visited so far. Wish I'd had more time...



2008-09-21 3:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Wow, now I know why they're called "bricks."
I usually do brick work-out at least once a week and sometimes twice...short and long ones...
2008-09-21 3:09 PM
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Yeah, I'll definitely be adding more. I'm up to a 1/2 mile swim, can go hours on the bike, and have a 1/2 marathon coming up, but bringing them together into one event is clearly a whole different animal.
2008-09-21 3:28 PM
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I've only been doing tri training since June, and the first bricks (and one race) I've done were awful.  The last few weeks I;ve been working on loosening up my quads in the last couple of miles on the bike and starting the run working to stay relaxed and not lifting my knees too much.  I've found that this has dramatically reduced the heaviness in my legs.
2008-09-21 3:39 PM
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I love transition runs (the word bricks is verboten).  As bad as I run, I actually feel better on my TR than stand-alone.  Maybe because I'm used to doing 90-95 RPM on the bike and my stand-alone run pace is 82, so having the higher RPM, plus being warmed up just feels better.
2008-09-21 3:55 PM
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The best way to feel better about doing bricks is as we can all guess is "do more bricks" but as far as tricks go I like to spin into my run off the bike. If I'm 85-90 on the bike I'll try to maintain the same speed for a few minutes (3-5) but instead go at 95-100 RPM. This usually helps a little and makes the transition to run a little easier.


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Rum_Runner - 2008-09-21 4:55 PM The best way to feel better about doing bricks is as we can all guess is "do more bricks" but as far as tricks go I like to spin into my run off the bike. If I'm 85-90 on the bike I'll try to maintain the same speed for a few minutes (3-5) but instead go at 95-100 RPM. This usually helps a little and makes the transition to run a little easier.

 Cool--I'll give that a shot. I put my transition at the top of the biggest hill on the course, so I finished hammering in the mid-80's. I'll give the spinning a shot next time.

I saw your sig--I know a road bike you'd like--the Pinarello F4:13.  Philippians is spelled with an F in Italian, of course...

2008-09-21 9:29 PM
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kagoscuba - 2008-09-21 3:39 PM I love transition runs (the word bricks is verboten).  As bad as I run, I actually feel better on my TR than stand-alone.  Maybe because I'm used to doing 90-95 RPM on the bike and my stand-alone run pace is 82, so having the higher RPM, plus being warmed up just feels better.

X2  -  I'll be 60 next month and just started training for tri's in June.  I have been a runner(AKA, jogger, slogger, shuffler, walker, etc.) since 1993 and to my surprise, I discovered after doing two or three brick workouts, that I ran a better 5K time after doing a hard 15 mile bike ride.  I had gotten very lazy on my runs during the last few years and had been jogging and walking most of the time.  I had not ran any races in years and did not even bother to wear a watch or check my times.  So when I decided in June to start training for a triathalon, I checked my time on a measured 5K route and I had dropped from a 21:10 to 36:20 for the 5K.  I know some of that loss in speed is just a natural aging process but most of it was just laziness.  Anyway, I bought an old 1982 Raleigh off of Ebay, with clip on Aero bars and started alternating riding, swimming and running 5 or 6 days a week.(sorry about not keeping a log on here but I will try to start soon).  Bottom line is, the first few brick workouts from the bike to the run was not pretty but now after a couple hundred feet, my legs feel better than starting out on a cold run and my rhythm and cadence is better and I finally got my 5K time back under 30 min. (28:30 on my last brick workout).  My first tri was scheduled to be the Hi-Fi Tri in Galveston but I may have to find another one to do as it is not looking too promising because of the hurricane damage.  Thanks to everyone on the forum who has contributed such a wealth of advice and encouragement for newbies like me to learn what it takes to be a triathalete.  Thanks,  Dan

2008-09-22 1:07 PM
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DrPete - 2008-09-21 4:58 PM

Rum_Runner - 2008-09-21 4:55 PM The best way to feel better about doing bricks is as we can all guess is "do more bricks" but as far as tricks go I like to spin into my run off the bike. If I'm 85-90 on the bike I'll try to maintain the same speed for a few minutes (3-5) but instead go at 95-100 RPM. This usually helps a little and makes the transition to run a little easier.

 Cool--I'll give that a shot. I put my transition at the top of the biggest hill on the course, so I finished hammering in the mid-80's. I'll give the spinning a shot next time.

I saw your sig--I know a road bike you'd like--the Pinarello F4:13.  Philippians is spelled with an F in Italian, of course...

I've posted this link on some other brick threads.  It helped me a lot when I first started. When I'm in "brick shape" it'll take a 1-2 min to get up to pace speed.  I usually will find out where the 1/4 & 1/2 mile points are on the run course and use them to gauge my pace and how I feel. 

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