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 2014-12-03 12:55 AM |
 Subject: Hungry ambassadorIt's all good she was not appointed because she raised money for him......nope she produces The Bold and Beautiful not sure what else to say abuot this one |
| 2014-12-03 10:15 AM in reply to: Puppetmaster |
 Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador Originally posted by Puppetmaster It's all good she was not appointed because she raised money for him......nope she produces The Bold and Beautiful not sure what else to say abuot this one The more things "hope and change" the more they stay the same. This appointee should be sent Iceland or some Caribbean nation. I fear Hungry, along with most of Eastern Europe, will play an important strategic role in the reignited cold war with Russia. |
| 2014-12-03 1:06 PM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion  7821    Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador We're talking about "Hungary" right? I'm not really defending it, because it's ridiculous on its face to put a person with her background into a role like that. The only thing I will say about it (aside from the obligatory, "every other president has done the exact same thing" comment) is to point out that given the current political landscape, the role of the Ambassador to anywhere is almost completely symbolic. Now that technology allows the President, Secretary of State, or any other diplomat in the US government to reach their counterpart in any other government almost instantly, wherever either of them are in the world, the role of the Ambassador is dramatically reduced in importance. Having a person who physically represents the US government in another nation's capital has far less significance in a formal diplomatic sense than it used to have, and nowadays is really more like a cultural attache. |
| 2014-12-03 1:59 PM in reply to: 0 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador It only takes $2.1 million of fundraising to qualify as an ambassador? Count me in....Ambassador Jackemy......I kind of like the sound of that. Edited by Jackemy1 2014-12-03 1:59 PM |
| 2014-12-03 2:10 PM in reply to: Puppetmaster |
| Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador Yup, sorry about the spelling |
| 2014-12-04 12:06 AM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
| Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador If she is, she should get something to eat before she gets Hangry! |
| 2014-12-05 10:42 AM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn We're talking about "Hungary" right? I'm not really defending it, because it's ridiculous on its face to put a person with her background into a role like that. The only thing I will say about it (aside from the obligatory, "every other president has done the exact same thing" comment) is to point out that given the current political landscape, the role of the Ambassador to anywhere is almost completely symbolic. Now that technology allows the President, Secretary of State, or any other diplomat in the US government to reach their counterpart in any other government almost instantly, wherever either of them are in the world, the role of the Ambassador is dramatically reduced in importance. Having a person who physically represents the US government in another nation's capital has far less significance in a formal diplomatic sense than it used to have, and nowadays is really more like a cultural attache. I just think of the staff at the Embassy. Lifelong careers with high power degrees specializing in international relations and here comes the new boss... /smh Agree with your point though jmk. It's all symbolic these days. |
| 2014-12-05 10:49 AM in reply to: tuwood |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador If the job is so symbolic that anyone can do it, then eliminate the position. Stop spending money on ambassadors and embassies and install a kiosk with a State Department employee available on a screen to deal with what ever it is that remains necessary. If big donors want to staff the kiosk, then fine. |
| 2014-12-08 9:18 AM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion 6993 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador Originally posted by Hook'em If the job is so symbolic that anyone can do it, then eliminate the position. Stop spending money on ambassadors and embassies and install a kiosk with a State Department employee available on a screen to deal with what ever it is that remains necessary. If big donors want to staff the kiosk, then fine. I guess I look at it as the ambassador is manager and a salesman. They might not make the policy but they have to sell it. If there is an issue they are your go too contact. They also will help you out if your visiting the country and having an issue with the local government. Other interesting thing is you can appoint anyone you want but that country has to say approve to that person. If Hungary does not like that person they can have them removed at anytime. |
| 2014-12-08 11:19 AM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador Originally posted by Hook'em If the job is so symbolic that anyone can do it, then eliminate the position. Stop spending money on ambassadors and embassies and install a kiosk with a State Department employee available on a screen to deal with what ever it is that remains necessary. If big donors want to staff the kiosk, then fine. Yeah, I probably overshot the mark when I said it was symbolic. I guess what I meant was that the person doesn't have to be a diplomat anymore, so you don't need the level of foreign policy experience that was once needed. |
| 2014-12-08 1:39 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by Hook'em Yeah, I probably overshot the mark when I said it was symbolic. I guess what I meant was that the person doesn't have to be a diplomat anymore, so you don't need the level of foreign policy experience that was once needed. If the job is so symbolic that anyone can do it, then eliminate the position. Stop spending money on ambassadors and embassies and install a kiosk with a State Department employee available on a screen to deal with what ever it is that remains necessary. If big donors want to staff the kiosk, then fine.
i was only half joking. |
| 2014-12-20 10:06 AM in reply to: Puppetmaster |
Master 3127 Sunny Southern Cal | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador I think that Obama should continue in this vein and appoint Seth Rogen as ambassador to S. Korea. |
| 2014-12-21 2:23 PM in reply to: SevenZulu |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador Originally posted by SevenZulu I think that Obama should continue in this vein and appoint Seth Rogen as ambassador to S. Korea. I think Dennis Rodman has the inside track on that gig. |
| 2014-12-22 5:30 AM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
| New user 560 Key West | Subject: RE: Hungry ambassador This really isn't news, as someone else said, Presidents have been doing this since almost the beginning of when we had ambassadors. It is all about political patronage and pay back. I would say that there are some countries where Presidents have been more mindful about who they select, but Hungary doesn't qualify for the special status. Career diplomats know this comes with the territory, and they do the real work and the appointee generally knows and respects that. Do I think it is how it should be done, not really, but it is the way it is done. |
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