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2009-06-29 8:42 AM


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Wow is open water swimming so much more difficult then the pool...  I have been swimming in the pool for the past 5 weeks. Finally got up to my race distance 800 yards. Pretty much no problem. Decided to swim in a lake this weekend.  It was so frustarating.  I kept thinking how deep am I?  Where am I relative to the shore?  What if I need to stop?  Am I going strainght?  I found that I was never swimming straight..  I found sighting very difficult. Completely destroyed my stroke.  I was lucky if I swam 100 yards straight.  From now until the Tri I probally can get in 4 more lake swims.  What should I do????  No I cannot have anybody follow me in a boat. I would love that..


2009-06-29 8:50 AM
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Get as many lake swims in as you can and stop thinking about all that other stuff.  It's only water, and you know how to swim.  So swim in it.

You still need to keep putting in the work in the pool.  It sounds like you aren't freaking out, which is good.  If you continue to become a better swimmer through pool training, you'll find that swimming straighter and your general confidence will improve.  This will help you forget all those thoughts that are creeping into your head while in the lake.

2009-06-29 8:52 AM
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One trick I've learned for OWS is sighting every certain number of strokes.  For example, I sight every 5 strokes, and I keep that counter going in my head.  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, lift head forward (am I going straight?), turn head right to the breathe, 1, 2, etc...  The key is sight, then breathe.  Should help you going straight and keep you in a rhythm.



2009-06-29 8:55 AM
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The  lake I can swin in is almost 1/2 mile across. I thought about doing it yesterday but decided it was crazy to do alone.  The most I can get is approximately 100 yards along the shore back and forth.  Guess that is better then nothing...
2009-06-29 8:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Lake swimming
Thaitri - 2009-06-29 9:42 AM

From now until the Tri I probally can get in 4 more lake swims.  What should I do???? 


Well, at the risk of over simplifying... get in 4 more lake swims! I'm certainly no expert - I just did my 2nd OWS this past weekend, but it went a lot better than my 1st. I can already tell that I'll be a lot more comfortable on my 3rd...

I had a lot of the same problems my first time too. That experience helped me to know what to start practicing in the pool. Sighting is still a little difficult for me, but its definitely a necessary skill to be proficient in the open water. It gets easier. One drill I started doing in the pool was closing my eyes, and only opening them to "sight" forward. That helped me a little since it kind of mocks conditions of the lake.
2009-06-29 9:06 AM
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Make sure you wear a bright swim cap when you are doing any OWS.  Lets people on shore and boaters see you easier.

Get in as many OWS as you can.  Also, in regards to the swimming straight part, close your eyes when you are swimming in the pool and see how far you go before you hit a lane line.  Work on doing that from time to time.  It will help you swim straighter.


2009-06-29 9:28 AM
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practice practice practice. That's all there is to it.

One way to practice swimming straight in the pool is to close your eyes (except when you roll to breathe). Its not perfect, but it does work in helping you swim straight without following the line.
2009-06-29 3:32 PM
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But what about lake monsters?
2009-06-29 4:02 PM
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Once you get kicked in the face a few times on race day you won't be worried about being in a lake at all!

I'd just suggest that if you get freaked out in the water, just roll onto your back an take some deep breaths to relax before trying to swim again.
2009-06-29 4:08 PM
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One thing I read that helps me is to focus on exhaling completely.  It calms me down.  And exhale while you're sighting so only your eyes have to come up out of the water, then turn your head to the side and breathe.  Like everyone said, practice as much as you can.  It gets easier!
2009-06-30 8:56 AM
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Ok how do you site???


2009-06-30 9:03 AM
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Thaitri - 2009-06-30 9:56 AM

Ok how do you site???


For me it's turn head to breathe, swing face to front and look forward then as I'm putting my face back into the water figure out what I saw and where I need to correct. Very occasionally I'll need more than a glimpse and that's time to do a stroke or two of the water polo/lifeguard stroke where you're swimming with your face forward.
2009-06-30 11:05 AM
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Thaitri - 2009-06-30 9:56 AM Ok how do you site???


The most efficient way to sight is to lift your eyes only, facing forward, just enough out of the water to see a focal point (which you need to identify before your swim), then put your face back down and turn to breathe as usual. I sight every 3 strokes because I tend to swim off course, some people go much longer. If you have to lift your head up at first while you learn, so be it. It will slow you down, it causes your legs to drop and you essentially have to start back up, but it got me through my first three races. It took me a long time to learn to sight so be patient. Once you get it, you'll find that swimming in OW is much easier.
2009-06-30 11:15 AM
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Thaitri - 2009-06-30 9:56 AM Ok how do you site???

Here's a little clip I made to show people how to sight. I am swimming on a bungee cord but it gets the point across. I usually sight every 3 to 4 stroke cycles and when it's done correctly doesn't mess up your stroke or use any excess energy. I hope it helps.

Open Water Sighting

One other pointer about sighting that I have given is to look for objects that are in the line of the buoy. Things such as big trees, hotel roof tops, farms or silos, radio towers, etc. This way you aren't trying to focus on a small buoy at water level. I felt as though I was cheating in a race last year (Musselman) where there were whitecaps on the water and people were swimming perpindicular to the course. I had focused on a large farm on a hill above the buoy that was there every time I sighted. The more you practice, the easier it comes. Good luck!

2009-06-30 11:19 AM
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Something else you can do is practice sighting in the pool... not looking at the blue line but put your swim bag (that holds your fins, bouy etc) or a large water bottle and stick that in the middle of your pool lane. Every third stroke or whatever look up and site off that object.. just practice it everytime you come up that side of the pool length.

Like other have said, you have to practice sighting. then when you get ok with it, you swim in choppy waters and you learn you have to develope a new way to sight when the bouy you are sighting off is above you on one stroke then is below you on the next breath because of swales...

2009-06-30 11:28 AM
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rstocks3 - 2009-06-30 12:15 PM

One other pointer about sighting that I have given is to look for objects that are in the line of the buoy. Things such as big trees, hotel roof tops, farms or silos, radio towers, etc. This way you aren't trying to focus on a small buoy at water level.


I've never even tried to sight on the buoys, only "that big white house on that side of the lake" or "the beach sand looking stuff over by the huge sail boat"

Those buoys look great from land when you're standing up but I've never been able to reliably see them with just a glance while swimming and at water level until I'm right up on them. There has been more than one race when I cannot remember seeing a single buoy other than the turn buoys and even with some of those I'm not sure if I turned because I saw the buoy or because the crowd around me was turning.


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