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2008-08-26 4:32 PM

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Subject: Marathon Swimming
I live in New Zealand.

The channel between the North and South Island is 26km.

How many years would it take me to train to be able to successfully attempt/finish this swim?

I have been swimming for triathlon for about a year. I used to play waterpolo.

Thanks.


2008-08-26 4:34 PM
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I guess it depends how dedicated you are. if you can get ready in one year to get ready for a marathon run from barely running a mile.  Why couldn't you get ready for a 36k swim if you dedicated yourself to it?
2008-08-26 4:35 PM
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Well I can't say for sure but if you put in a lot of yards every day I'd say you could get close to doing it in a year (assuming you already have a minimal swimming background). Once you get to that distance of swimming it becomes a huge mental game.
2008-08-26 4:47 PM
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Basically all 3 of your question have the same answer.  It depends.  It takes a lot of work, some luck and good genetics to do any long distance event.
2008-08-26 4:50 PM
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The logistics of it are more difficult than the training part, which is pretty straightforward. I agree with the others--if you're very dedicated you could probably build up to that in a year or two.

You should definitely read Lynne Cox's account of swimming the Cook Strait in her book Swimming to Antarctica.

2008-08-26 5:54 PM
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trimantri - 2008-08-26 5:34 PM I guess it depends how dedicated you are. if you can get ready in one year to get ready for a marathon run from barely running a mile. Why couldn't you get ready for a 36k swim if you dedicated yourself to it?

The first will take 4-5 hrs to complete, the second (swim 36km/22.36miles or as OP stated 26km/16.5miles) will most probably take over 10hrs to complete the 36 and over 8 to complete the 26.

 4.4mile bay bridge swim takes fastest 1:28 slowest 3:48 .. and they may pull you out after a certain amount of time



2008-08-26 7:30 PM
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Yes I meant 26 k, but you are right, it is very tough.  But as you know it also takes some folks 7 to 8 hours to run/walk a marathon.

 

2008-08-26 10:53 PM
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It would be a beautiful channel to cross. Take a look at this

 http://www.cookstraitswim.org.nz/

and this

http://www.channelswimmingassociation.experthosting4u.com/content/PDF/T00001.pdf

It's info for the English Channel. I am also a big fan of Open Water Swimming by Penny Lee Dean (1998) published by Human Kinetics (www.humankinetics.com). Also Swimming to Antartica by Lynne Cox (2004 - Harcourt) is a must read. 

 I think that if you were very fit and played water polo (not Marco Polo) you might be able to get together with an open water coach and be ready in 2 years plus or minus depending on your current proficiency in the water, time available to train and access to a good coach. However, since I never prepared for a swim of this magnitude, this is merely a guess.

 



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2008-08-26 11:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Marathon Swimming across the Cook Strait
You have chosen one of the "Ocean's Seven" - considered to be one of the toughest 7 open water swims in the world (http://www.10kswim.com/news.html#article23). The Ocean's Seven includes (1) the Irish Channel between Ireland and Scotland, (2) the Cook Strait, (3) the Molokai Channel between Oahu and Molokai Islands in Hawaii, (4) the English Channel, (5) the Catalina Channel near Los Angeles, California, (6) the Tsugaru Channel between Honshu and Hokkaido in Japan, and (7) the Strait of Gibraltar between Europe and Africa.

As you may already know, you have to swim through immense tidal flows in icy water conditions among jellyfish and sharks (note: 1 in 6 swimmers encounter sharks on their crossings, although no one has ever been attacked during a swim). The window of opportunity is between November and May. Both sides of the strait have rock cliffs and you will have to deal with cold water (14ºC-19ºC or 57ºC-66ºF) amid heavy chop. To date, only 71 successful crossings have been made by 61 individuals from 8 countries. Hypothermia and change in weather conditions during the crossings are the most common reasons attempts fail.

You may want to talk with Philip Rush (who once did a triple crossing of the English Channel) who runs the supportive and informative website, www.cookstraitswim.org.nz. He is always helpful to those who try. You can tell Philip that Steven Munatones from California told you to contact him.

It is a great challenge and, as the others have suggested, if you are totally committed, a year's solid focused training should be able to do the trick. You should probably plan on being in the water 6-10 hours if all goes well (depending on your swimming speed and the conditions that you will encounter.

Good luck
2008-08-26 11:17 PM
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BTW, totally off topic, but you (headcoach@10Kswim) did a great job with the Olympic 10K swim online commentary!
2008-08-27 1:29 AM
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Im a kiwi - didnt even know you could do this! Sounds like a blast.. although having lived in Wellington I can verify that sea does NOT look good somedays....

Wow... this looks like an awesome challenge... I have no advice to offer but what a fabulous idea! 



2008-08-27 5:46 AM
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Friend is training at the moment for this swim, Early next year. She has quite a bit of swim background from ironman training etc.
Currently swimming 6 days at up to 6k per day and climbing! Window for the crossing is quite narrow due to tides, temperatures etc. I'm on the chase boat for up to 10hrs, that should be fun!
Phillip Rush in NZ is the main man for info on this swim. Save $ for the guide though, about $5kNZ.
What a goal to aim for...go for it!

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2008-08-27 8:12 AM
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supa-powa - 2008-08-26 5:32 PM I live in New Zealand. The channel between the North and South Island is 26km. How many years would it take me to train to be able to successfully attempt/finish this swim? I have been swimming for triathlon for about a year.

26km?!  Over 16 miles?!  In cold open ocean?!  ... It would take you 10 years of training with a private coach, a partial lobotomy, tons of drugs and a set of balls like the King of Bayonne!

"Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish Ladies,
Farewell and adieu to you, ladies of Spain;
For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston,
And so never more shall we see you again."

2008-08-27 8:46 AM
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wow....cool stuff!

just curious....has a group ever done a relay swim across an ocean?
2008-08-27 10:39 AM
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it takes dedication and mad skills.  my friend Dave just did the Catalina crossing last weekend. what a stud.  and even better, he did it for a great cause (ALS  - think Jon Blais)!

www.swimthechannel.com

that will give you a good idea of the process he went through to accomplish a 21mi swim in the open ocean.

~B

2008-08-27 12:42 PM
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Bigfuzzydoug - 2008-08-27 6:12 AM

"Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish Ladies,
Farewell and adieu to you, ladies of Spain;
For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston,
And so never more shall we see you again."

 

Quoting Jaws is always a nice touch, BFD :P   And good on ya for the ambition, OP.  Seeing Catalina off the coast has always made me wonder...



2008-08-27 1:45 PM
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Revbigdog - 2008-08-27 1:42 PM

Quoting Jaws is always a nice touch, BFD :P

I was wondering who would pick up on that.  Gotta love Quint!  There's actually ANOTHER obscure movie reference in that post.  Not the best movie in the world, but curious to see if anyone can identify it.

 

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