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2005-05-10 8:11 PM

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Subject: hydration systems for running
Summer is here, and I'm looking at hydration systems for my long runs and bricks...have tried a lot of stuff and now am looking into backpack style systems, and looking at ones recommened for runners rather than cyclists.

Runner's world suggests 2 that look interesting: Deuter Hydro M2 and ASICS Eagle Trail Hydration backpack. Anybody tried/use either of these? I've only ever seen the Camelpack brand ones, but they don't look so good for running.

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2005-05-10 8:13 PM
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How about a fuel belt?
2005-05-10 8:33 PM
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I don't have any experience with either of those systems however I have run with a hydroation system before and I didn't have any problems. The keys to having the system work well is to ensure that it is snug (less bouncing) and that you remove as much air as possible from the bladder (less sloshing) and you should be fine.

If you have never used a camelbak type system before make sure that you take the time to clean and store it properly, otherwise your hoses will start to look like the inside of a fishtank.

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2005-05-10 8:38 PM
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Subject: RE: hydration systems for running

Ah, the weekly "hydration system" thread.

Fuelbelt, or that amphibod thingy that Steve_ is hawking. More versatile but twice the cost. Team Javelin members get a discount.

2005-05-10 9:17 PM
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I started with a Camelbak. OK but fluid sloshes around and it is hot. Moved to the hip mounted camelback flashflow. Better but it is a pain to keep clean and can be uncomfortable at time. It is just too hard to clean to use gatorade or anything but water in it. Recently I have moved to the Amphipod. Works great. I can use gatorade or whatever I want and it is easy to clean. My favorite so far.

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2005-05-10 9:22 PM
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Subject: RE: hydration systems for running

I'm using the amphipod as well.  Many options, from 8oz up to 32, with gel flasks if desired. 

Its got my vote.



2005-05-10 10:01 PM
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Should clarify...I know all about the fuel belts, thanks. Looking for something more comfy for long hauls. I have a kinda funny build and extra weight around the middle that makes the belt things less than comfortable, even running specific ones. So I thought maybe something where most of the weight of the hydration was carried by my shoulders would be better...

Thanks for the responses so far!

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2005-05-11 8:00 AM
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I've got a Camelbak waist pack.  http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?catid=6&product_id=262

 Holds 45 oz. of fluid. Never get any sloshing even when it's half full.  If  you don't fill it completely up when you take off, then squeeze the remaining air out of it.  This will prevent the sloshing.  It's pretty comfortable to wear, never really feel it bouncing, in fact most times I don't even know it's there.  I've trained with if for about 6 marathons, and if it wasn't comfortable, I would have ditched it a long time ago.

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2005-05-11 9:23 AM
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Well, I used to use one of those construction helmets with two can holders attached to the top. It had two plastic tubes running conveniently from the beverage cans of my choice to my mouth, which enabled me to stay, well, um ... quite hydrated.

Now I just use a boring old 4-bottle Fuel Belt and suggest it might work for you too!

2005-05-11 9:29 AM
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cdf26.2 - 2005-05-11 8:00 AM

I've got a Camelbak waist pack.  http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?catid=6&product_id=262

 Holds 45 oz. of fluid. Never get any sloshing even when it's half full.  If  you don't fill it completely up when you take off, then squeeze the remaining air out of it.  This will prevent the sloshing.  It's pretty comfortable to wear, never really feel it bouncing, in fact most times I don't even know it's there.  I've trained with if for about 6 marathons, and if it wasn't comfortable, I would have ditched it a long time ago.

Chris 



Isn't 45 oz of liquid awfully heavy to haul around?

I have a belt that holds 1 "squeeze" style bottle (like you would use on the bike) in the back. I use it on long runs and for extra liquid on long rides. Woks ok for me, but probably not the "best" option out there.
2005-05-11 9:53 AM
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MUL98 - 2005-05-11 9:29 AM
cdf26.2 - 2005-05-11 8:00 AM

I've got a Camelbak waist pack.  http://www.camelbak.com/rec/cb_prod.cfm?catid=6&product_id=262

 Holds 45 oz. of fluid. Never get any sloshing even when it's half full.  If  you don't fill it completely up when you take off, then squeeze the remaining air out of it.  This will prevent the sloshing.  It's pretty comfortable to wear, never really feel it bouncing, in fact most times I don't even know it's there.  I've trained with if for about 6 marathons, and if it wasn't comfortable, I would have ditched it a long time ago.

Chris 

Isn't 45 oz of liquid awfully heavy to haul around? I have a belt that holds 1 "squeeze" style bottle (like you would use on the bike) in the back. I use it on long runs and for extra liquid on long rides. Woks ok for me, but probably not the "best" option out there.

You know I don't really notice the weight much anymore.  On the bright side as you drain it, you can run faster . With training for marathons, I found I needed much more fluid for the long runs so I wanted something that wouldn't have to be refilled constantly.  Typically I would go through the 45 oz in 8 miles, so on a 22 mile run, I would only have to refill twice.  After refilling you do notice the weight a bit, but not so much where it bothered me.



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the nice thing about camelbak is that I can use it for skiing, hiking, flyfishing... it is SO easy to use, when fishing it's a pain to be wading out and carrying all your gear and have to worry about water. Skiing, too, no removing gloves and digging around for water...
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possum - 2005-05-11 9:57 AM

the nice thing about camelbak is that I can use it for skiing, hiking, flyfishing... it is SO easy to use, when fishing it's a pain to be wading out and carrying all your gear and have to worry about water. Skiing, too, no removing gloves and digging around for water...


Do you have the backpack style one or round the waist style one?
2005-05-11 10:04 AM
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I know that you are interested in a back mounted system; I am a regular, longtime user of Camelbaks for hiking, skiing, and biking and I love them. I have not found them to work for running though. I recently purchased the Camelbak Alerra and have used it a few times for running and although it sloshes a bit, it works very well. I used it in the Wildflower triathlon and liked it very much. It's a bit expensive, but well designed.


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madeye - 2005-05-11 9:01 AM

possum - 2005-05-11 9:57 AM

the nice thing about camelbak is that I can use it for skiing, hiking, flyfishing... it is SO easy to use, when fishing it's a pain to be wading out and carrying all your gear and have to worry about water. Skiing, too, no removing gloves and digging around for water...


Do you have the backpack style one or round the waist style one?


backpack. totally hands free
2005-05-11 10:27 AM
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dovmike - 2005-05-11 10:04 AM
I know that you are interested in a back mounted system; I am a regular, longtime user of Camelbaks for hiking, skiing, and biking and I love them. I have not found them to work for running though. I recently purchased the Camelbak Alerra and have used it a few times for running and although it sloshes a bit, it works very well. I used it in the Wildflower triathlon and liked it very much. It's a bit expensive, but well designed.


Looks like from what I can tell in the pic that the front of the waist strap is padded...is that true? If so, that might actually work just as well for me...my problem is the 1" belts that snap around the front are...well...seriously unpleasant. If the belt were wider/padded, I don't think I'd have as many problems....


2005-05-11 11:04 AM
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The front of the belt is wide and lightly padded, the pack is designed to be comfortable even against bare skin. It's very adjustable and has a couple of zipper pockets and a bungie-cord to secure a light jacket or whatever. This is a system designed for running. I hardly noticed that it was there. They are readily available in stores. I'd check one out in person to see if it will work for your body type.

My only slight criticism of the design is that the tube wraps back around the waist and clips in. It takes a little getting used to to put it back in place. I'm might try one of their aligator clips for easier placement.

Edited by dovmike 2005-05-11 11:07 AM
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