Need insight on swim rolling

To me its the turning of the neck that is key.  My PT boss thinks I have rubber neck.  If you learn to bilaterally breath then you don't want to roll to far.  BLB allow to time waves and fight the start.  At best I may turn 30 degrees in the water but mainly keep my elbows up and bent and body level.  

I like to concentrate on being able to breath with one google close or under water.  Keep your butt up and finish the stroke.  You put your hand in the water don't take it out till you have used all the water.  Drill-splash the water up at the end. 

I am a new competitive swimmer but have done lots of reading and self retraining over the last 12 months. The thinking in swimming (total immersion the swim bible) says you should be rolling 90 degrees each side, never turn your head and maximize glide hydrodynamics. Yu need to read this book to get all the details but it has drastically changed my swim times, effort level etc.

Thanks for the insight everyone.

I paid a little more attention to it today when practicing bilateral and also when swimming normal and Im more like 45 deg or slightly more.  That way I dont really have to move my neck to breath and I have one goggle in, one out like Ive read in other places.  I keep high elbows and all that good jazz so from what Ive been reading in here and other places it seems like Im pretty well off. 

90 deg seems pretty steep.  I mean, how would you even get a good pull if youre completely sideways.....Im not arguing....just saying.  Itd seem that the last phase of your stroke would be sending you back and forth sideways through the water.

Again, thanks for the info!

 -Rob

I'm no expert nor I have read of do much drill since I don't want to mess up a good thing.  Study other swimmers (good ones). 

I just have a hard time thinking turning your body 180 degrees with each stroke is effecient. 

I have never looked or read TI but the only thing turning your body is your arms or legs.  Wasted energy when a small turn of the head will do it.  Trying to pulls wetsuit down is also wasted energy when we buy it to float on top.    

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Now Dexter from your logs I can tell your a strong swimmer and this may not seem like it would help but I would bet that if you applied these techniques you would see an improvement also. I am only a begginer competitive swimmer but this has made a big difference for me, I am not up to your speeds yet but I still have alot of work to do. I have tried to summarize an entire concept into just a few sentences I think I captured the idea but you really need to read the book or work with someone who is a trainer / coach to really "get it"