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2008-08-12 12:25 PM


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OK, so I decided to do my first Tri in 6 weeks.  It is the last sprint of the season and I want to get my first one in this year.  It is a 1/3 mile swim, 15 mile bike and 3.2 run.  I am afraid of the swim.  I swam the first time in a 25 meter pool.  I was only able to swim 200 meters.  1/3 mile is a lot more than 200 meters.  Can I realistically work up to this in 6 weeks???  I am a road bikes so I am not worried about the bike.. The swim on the other hand..... help please...


2008-08-12 12:29 PM
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Yes you can do it. Start training NOW.
2008-08-12 12:33 PM
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I have decided to pay a lifeguard to help me with my stroke.  Can somebody post some swim workouts for me to follow.  Please be detailed as I may not understand what you mean...

 

6 weeks in not much time...

2008-08-12 12:37 PM
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http://forums.usms.org/forumdisplay.php?f=96

Click on the weeks, gives you all sorts of workouts.

Or even better, click on the "Programs" link at the top of the BT page and find a swimming schedule that works for your time available.

2008-08-12 12:44 PM
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Former lifeguard/swim instructor here.

Lessons are (usually) a great start. 

The mistakes new swimmers make are:
1)  trying to go too fast
2)  not relaxing and therefore tense breathing

You're not going to drown. 

If you're practicing in a pool, start with pushing off the wall and gliding as far as you can go without kicking or moving your arms.  Experiment with different body positions (e.g. toes hooked and toes pointed, hands together and hands shoulder-width apart, head position).  See which changes let you glide farther and which cost you that last meter.  This will help you understand body position and get comfortable in the water. 

2008-08-12 12:44 PM
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i did my first tri in april

signed up on a whim... 

no swim background

swim portion: 800 meters

started training 2 weeks before tri

i completed the swim, but it was gruelingly slow!

you can probably do it, but don't expect too much your first time

just keep swimming! 



2008-08-12 12:45 PM
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Sorry I dont understand the training plan.  All that I am looking for is an easy to floow swimming plAN FOR 6 WEEKS LEADING UP TO A 600 METER SWIM...
2008-08-12 12:56 PM
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You are most of the way there already. You can do it.

You need to be in the pool a good 3x a week though. And, for now, I wouldnt worry about drills or workouts at this point. Just try to swim continuous segments. I.e., 3 segments of 10mins continuous swimming (any stroke) separated by a couple of minutes rest. Keep increasing the segment time and/or decreasing the rest time.

Probably a good idea to have an instructor check your stroke...give you some tips/pointers on how your form is and what to be focusing on during those training swims.

Relax...you can do it. Once you can swim 500-600 meters continuously, you would be surprised how far you can really go.
2008-08-12 1:39 PM
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Thank you all for your help..  Ok, my plan is to swim 3 - 10 min segments with a few min rest in between.  I just hope I can swim that long.  I guess speed at this point does not count.  I am working off a basic training program that out lines some basic swim, run and bike times.  Looks like there are a couple of "bricks" in there as well.  The plan has me training between 5-7.5 hours a week.

Also another question.  Since this is my first tri.  Where should I line up on the start line for the swim.  I heard in the back at a corner.  I dontr want other swimming over me.  And if I need help, do I signal to the guys in the boat..  I really hope this does not happen....!!!  How do you guys swim over 3 miles?

2008-08-12 1:44 PM
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Relax, you have plenty of time. Very common for new swimmers to have difficulty doing more than a few laps without stopping, more to do with getting use to the pool and breathing, than endurance. Good idea to get an instructor, let them know that right now you are only interested in finishing a 500 yard swim. No need to work on speed. For simplicity, start off with sets of 100 yards easy, do as many as you feel comfortable with, next week do sets of 200, the next week add one 300 yard swim, the following week add one 500 yard swim. At this point you will have two weeks left, and you'll have the confidence that you can do the distance. I highly recommend, that in a few weeks, you go to the lake or whatever you are going to swim in, and get use to open water swimming. Don't worry about forgetting everything you learned, the purpose of this swim is to get use to swimming in open water, and to get a feel for what it's like to have to look to see where you are going (don't worry about the open water swim at this point, get in the pool, practice, then post a question again in a few weeks about suggestions for your first open water swim).

2008-08-12 1:48 PM
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I would practice as much as you can between now and the race (also OWS if that is the format for your race) and only compete when you are ready to go the distance comfortable and safely. otherwise, YES you can hurt yourself.


2008-08-12 1:55 PM
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Not sure what OWS means but here is the link for the race. Looks like fun.

http://www.maxperformanceonline.com/buzzardsbayrace.html

2008-08-12 1:58 PM
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OWS = open water swim and YES you should practice that...
2008-08-12 2:19 PM
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Thaitri - 2008-08-12 2:55 PM

Not sure what OWS means but here is the link for the race. Looks like fun.

http://www.maxperformanceonline.com/buzzardsbayrace.html



This sounds like the perfect beginner's race. Click on the beginner triathlete link on their website and take advantage of their buddy program.

2008-08-12 7:03 PM
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And remember the golden rule: Don't Start if You Don't Think You Can Finish.

MAKE SURE you can COMFORTABLY swim the race distance in a pool before crossing the starting mat. Worst Case, you skip this one, and do another one. (and actually, my rule is that you should be able to do 2x the race distance...but less of an issue with the swim, given its the first event).

With a solid effort, you can definitely do this. But honestly make sure you are ready before stepping foot into that race.
2008-08-12 7:34 PM
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http://ruthkazez.com/ZeroTo1mile.html

This is the plan I am doing and I feel good every time. Realy easy to follow but stick with it.



2008-08-12 9:09 PM
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Here's a couple more tips that may be obvious, but I think are worth repeating:

Get goggles.  I know that seems obvious, but my co-worker is starting to train for a mini sprint with me in September.  Her first swim she did without goggles.  She didn't tell me that until she did another swim with goggles and reported shaving 5 minutes off on her second try.

Breathe. When I first started to swim, I would try to hold my breath, and ended up doing very poorly.  Breathe on your dominant side with every stroke on that side.  Don't worry about bilateral breathing (both sides).  If you continually breathe in and out, you will get more oxygen, clear more CO2, and generally be more comfortable.

Slow down.  Others have mentioned this too. Whatever pace you are going, you will want to consciously slow down so you don't panic and burn out.

Start in the back and to the outside. You will be less likely to get beat up in the crowd. For your first race, your goal is to finish, and learn what it is like.

For the OWS, when you train, have a friend alongside in a kayak or canoe to give you chance to rest if needed.  You will be allowed to do the same thing in a race if you get panicky, and still finish the race if you can recover yourself and continue the swim.

I found having some sort of mental trick to keep myself focused helps prevent the head games you might otherwise play yourself (like "Hey, I can't touch the bottom here", or "What the heck was that thing that just brushed against me?", or "Hey this is a long swim without a wall to rest at!" ).  I have found that counting my strokes to a predetermined number (like 5 or 10) and then doing a breast stroke to catch my bearings keeps me focused enough on the here and now, and also keeps me from drifting too far off to one side or the other.

Finally, when you are nearing the end of the swim, wait to stand up until your hands are touching the bottom. That way you will know you are close enough to the shore to stand up and not fall over.

Remember that after the swim, you will not drown if you have to stop moving or slow down.  Feel free to ride at a slower pace, or to walk part or all of the run.  Then use your results to fine tune your training for the next race!

2008-08-12 9:55 PM
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im a newbie swimmer - these videos helped me in the beginning - check here, specifically the breathing (that seems to be where us newbies need to focus) -

http://www.goswim.tv/pages/5/videos.html

..search and read these forums - there are LOTS of smart and experienced athletes here.

Best of luck on your first tri! ..believe you can do it, and you will.  Trust yourself.

-Mike 

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