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2009-08-14 8:29 AM

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So I decided, as an early birthday present to myself, to get a set of clipless pedals and road shoes.  The experience has taught me a lot, especially about how to acquire important virtues like humility.

Once I had affixed the pedals to the bike and the cleats to the shoes, I discovered that I had to take the cleats off and put them back on again, because I put them on backwards the first time.  The manufacturer evidently thought that it was so self-evident that the inside-facing part of the cleat needed to go on the inside-facing part of the shoe, that they did not specify this in the instructions.   I, in my great wisdom, proved that even the most obvious instruction should be specified.

Next, I could not for the life of me cause the cleat to clip into the pedal.  I tried for over half an hour, at one point calling the technical assistance hotline and being mocked for my pains.  My exertions actually exceeded that of a typical easy run or bike, and sweat beaded on my head as I assumed ludicrous positions and stood, flamingo-like, upon my bike.  At one point, I caused the bike to fall down on top of me in the kitchen.  I laughed hysterically as my dog fled the room, his tail between his legs.

When my husband got home from work, the two of us puzzled over the pedals and cleats for about twenty minutes.  We looked like the apes from 2001, pondering the meaning of the obelisk.  My husband removed the cleats from the shoes and reaffixed them, in a direction that turned out to actually be correct, because I had merely THOUGHT they were on backwards the first time before I second-guessed myself and "fixed it" by putting the cleats on backwards.  (Clearly, we are a well-matched couple.)  The cleats immediately snapped right into the pedals.

Now, I am learning to actually ride the bike with the pedals on.  Unwilling to be critically surveyed by my neighbors as I fall sideways and downhill with a bike on top of my body, I have chosen to do my initial learning in the hallway of my house, where there is a narrow wall to prevent me from falling down the entire way.  I suspect that I will need to repaint it soon.  I don't really want to talk about this phase of my clipless-pedal education right now, as many memories (and bruises) make it a painful subject.

My dog has proven to be the most intelligent member of the household during this time of learning in our lives.   He fears my road shoes.  When he hears their clicking and sees me waddle, penguin-like, towards the fateful corner where my bike lives, he immediately flees to the space behind the couch, where he stays until he hears the bike go back into its corner.


2009-08-14 8:34 AM
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LOL

2009-08-14 9:10 AM
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I really wish this forum had stickies for posts like this.
2009-08-14 9:26 AM
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Funny, but I have to ask: If you were that clueless why didn't you have the LBS install and demonstrate how to use them?
2009-08-14 9:30 AM
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Very funny~
2009-08-14 9:38 AM
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the bear - 2009-08-14 10:26 AM Funny, but I have to ask: If you were that clueless why didn't you have the LBS install and demonstrate how to use them?


Because usually I'm a big fan of supporting the LBS and benefiting from their knowledge, but I could get the pedals and shoes I wanted for about $100 cheaper from not using the LBS.  I make about $23k a year, so $100 is a pretty big chunk of change for me, and it takes a while to save up that kind of cash just to buy a luxury item.  I do feel kind of bad about not having bought it from the LBS, but I also did want to have clipless pedals this season instead of riding on platforms until next season.  I've gotten pretty much all my other bike gear from them, and I'll get more stuff from them in the future.  I just don't make enough money to be able to always buy everything from there.  Plus I'm kind of a slow learner: even when the LBS shows me how to do something, I have to take it home and futz with it and do it wrong a few times before I actually learn how it works.

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Just seems to me you have incurred more than $100 worth of aggravation. And if you don't have the cleats properly adjusted and develop an injury because of it (not that uncommon), the bill is going to be much more.

I pinch pennies. I buy a lot of stuff online. The stuff I know little about I buy from people you can help me learn.
2009-08-14 10:36 AM
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I'm with the Bear on this one. Even though you bought the stuff online, you could still have taken it to the LBS for installation. I did that with my first clipless pedals years ago way back before online stores and I bought them out of a catalog. I've done it with other stuff as well.

I've never fully understood why people have so much trouble with clipless. Maybe it's because before I got clipless I used toe straps for many years so the feeling of having my feet secured to the pedals wasn't so foreign.

Anyway, glad you got it figured out.

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the bear - 2009-08-14 11:05 AM Just seems to me you have incurred more than $100 worth of aggravation. And if you don't have the cleats properly adjusted and develop an injury because of it (not that uncommon), the bill is going to be much more.

I pinch pennies. I buy a lot of stuff online. The stuff I know little about I buy from people you can help me learn.


I don't really think I've incurred more than $100 worth of aggravation.  I wouldn't pay $100 to not make a couple dumb mistakes and waste a few minutes of my time, after all.  If someone offered to pay me $100 in order to make a couple dumb mistakes and waste a few minutes of time, I would probably actually take them up on that.  A lot of people would.  Cleat adjustment would be a little bit more worrisome to me if I had a different pedal system.  But my foot is not particularly mobile, and so I felt comfortable getting a system with nearly unlimited free float, so I don't need to worry so much about the angular adjustment of my cleats.  Even I am capable of marking where the ball of my foot falls, and then making an appropriate front-to-back adjustment.  Plus, at the start of next season, I'm planning on taking my bike in and getting it fitted (now that I actually know important things like how to ride it ) -- I figure pedal and cleat adjustment will be part of that.

I just wanted to share my silly story and hopefully make people laugh... now I feel like I'm up against a tribunal! 
2009-08-14 10:42 AM
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I learned clipless while MTBing; 1 trip to the ER when I couldn't unclip while heading into a stand of trees; the most painful: STANDING STILL, I started pedaling, didn't have enough mo and keeled over.  Of course then I learn, from the LBS, of MULTI-release cleats.  I preach that to everyone starting clipless.  Having said all that, I soon got to the point that I WAS NOT comfortable on technical stuff unless I was clipped in.  Road cycling clipless was an easier transition, but I still keep the pedals at the lightest setting. 
Good luck; it'll happen, just stick with it.
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Sometimes one can learn a lot from making mistakes.

To me it sounds like she has a great story and a great learning experience by pinching pennies.


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Fun stuff.  Might I suggest you switch one pedal (the side you normally put your foot on the ground first when you stop)back to the regular platform?  You can then practice clipping in on just the one side without some of the drama, pain, and humiliation that comes with falling over while clipped in.  Yes, it may look silly to ride in one tennis shoe and one bike shoe, but probably not as silly as bruises, scrapes, grass stains, and torn shorts (and you can ride outside, instead of crashing into your wall).   

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Donskiman - 2009-08-14 11:36 AM

I'm with the Bear on this one. Even though you bought the stuff online, you could still have taken it to the LBS for installation. I did that with my first clipless pedals years ago way back before online stores and I bought them out of a catalog. I've done it with other stuff as well.

I've never fully understood why people have so much trouble with clipless. Maybe it's because before I got clipless I used toe straps for many years so the feeling of having my feet secured to the pedals wasn't so foreign.

Anyway, glad you got it figured out.



I just don't feel comfortable having stuff installed at the LBS that I didn't buy from there.  I figure that if I support their competitors, I should not be asking them to spend their time, earning a minimal profit, to install parts (which would provide them with their maximal profit had I bought it from there).  In my mind, it isn't any different from going to LRS, getting fitted for a pair of running shoes, then buying them on the Internet instead of at LRS.  I might not be rich, but I won't be a parasite on the LBS or the LRS either.
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McFuzz - 2009-08-14 11:47 AM

Fun stuff.  Might I suggest you switch one pedal (the side you normally put your foot on the ground first when you stop)back to the regular platform?  You can then practice clipping in on just the one side without some of the drama, pain, and humiliation that comes with falling over while clipped in.  Yes, it may look silly to ride in one tennis shoe and one bike shoe, but probably not as silly as bruises, scrapes, grass stains, and torn shorts (and you can ride outside, instead of crashing into your wall).   



Brilliant!  I am totally going to do that! 
2009-08-14 10:59 AM
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After reading your post, I am looking forward to getting my road shoes in the mail.
I ordered online as well, as I don't have the love for my LBS.
I am thinking of going to one that is not so local.
That being said, I think you did the right thing. I think understanding how to use and set up your pedals is akin to learning how to change a tube on your bike.
You can have the LBS do it, and sometimes I do, but it is nice to know how to handle the equipment you ride as well.
No dog to scare here, although I bet my daughter will get a laugh when I fall over.
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eliwashere - 2009-08-14 10:59 AM After reading your post, I am looking forward to getting my road shoes in the mail.
I ordered online as well, as I don't have the love for my LBS.
I am thinking of going to one that is not so local.
That being said, I think you did the right thing. I think understanding how to use and set up your pedals is akin to learning how to change a tube on your bike.
You can have the LBS do it, and sometimes I do, but it is nice to know how to handle the equipment you ride as well.
No dog to scare here, although I bet my daughter will get a laugh when I fall over.


You can put a tube in a little wrong and ride for hundreds of miles with no ill effects.

Install your cleats a little wrong, ride a couple hundred miles and you can end up with achy knees or something more permanent on the injury front.


Plenty of places to save bucks, this is one area I wouldn't chance it. Don't feel guilty about buying the stuff online and paying your LBS for correct installation either. That is part of the service they provide, for a fee. I've bought seveal bikes online and paid to have them assembled, adjusted and fitted. The LBS didn't complain, in fact thanked me for the business.

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I like the story.  We just got my wife her first road bike, complete with clip less pedels and she has been learning how to use the as well.  My wife is pretty brave so after a few tries at the LBS she was willing to give it a ride around the block.  So far so good.

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As for having your LBS put on parts you mail ordered.  Not a big deal so long as you don't expect them to do it for free.  The way I look at it is I buy from one LBS because I like their prices and brands and service at another because I feel they are better mechanics.  I buy Tri stuff from my LTS as opposed to my LBS because they have better Tri stuff.  In the end I never feel bad about it because each shop is different and I'm loyal to the local stores not to a local store.  Besides they are all happy to make sales and provide services, they have their products and services priced according to what will make them money.  Lastly, when I do buy something new and have it installed at my LBS they often give me a discount on one or the other.
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Also, many times your LBS will match prices.  Always ask, as it is better to have that great customer service as well.  Now, if your LBS does not have great customer service, find a LBS that maybe is just slightly less L.
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I'm with the Bear on this one. Even though you bought the stuff online, you could still have taken it to the LBS for installation. I did that with my first clipless pedals years ago way back before online stores and I bought them out of a catalog. I've done it with other stuff as well.

I've never fully understood why people have so much trouble with clipless. Maybe it's because before I got clipless I used toe straps for many years so the feeling of having my feet secured to the pedals wasn't so foreign.

Anyway, glad you got it figured out.



I just don't feel comfortable having stuff installed at the LBS that I didn't buy from there.  I figure that if I support their competitors, I should not be asking them to spend their time, earning a minimal profit, to install parts (which would provide them with their maximal profit had I bought it from there).  In my mind, it isn't any different from going to LRS, getting fitted for a pair of running shoes, then buying them on the Internet instead of at LRS.  I might not be rich, but I won't be a parasite on the LBS or the LRS either.


Interesting. So if you were to buy a bike online at some point, you would do the fit yourself because you wouldn't want to be a parasite on the LBS? I do admire you trying to save money, but again I do agree with the Bear that some things that need proper adjustment are too important to skimp on. Hopefully this will work out well for you, but if you find you're having problems don't be afraid to go to the LBS. It's doubtful they look at you like you're a parasite.
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