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 2012-08-30 8:14 PM |
 Subject: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry |
| 2012-08-30 10:20 PM in reply to: #4389063 |
Champion  34263     Chicago | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon? |
| 2012-08-30 10:55 PM in reply to: #4389188 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-30 9:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon? Uh... no, that is a series of felony crimes and a capital case. |
| 2012-08-30 11:02 PM in reply to: #4389188 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-30 8:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon?Kind of like what Eric Holder did? |
| 2012-08-31 2:05 AM in reply to: #4389188 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-30 11:20 PM Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon? That's what's known as illegal, but thanks for playing. |
| 2012-08-31 8:56 AM in reply to: #4389188 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-30 10:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon?
Wow I have bought guns for 30 years now. I have never sold one to a gang banger. So how much profit does one make when he drops $700+ at a gun strore for a Sig or F&N or any nice weapon? Seems making a profit means you sell them for more. Well here in Flint (you can look it up) we have shootings. In fact we are rated the most violent place in the USA, because we have shootings. The guns on the street are cheap and are stolen. Then again what else should I expect out of you, Rosie |
| 2012-08-31 9:05 AM in reply to: #4389218 |
Slower Than You 9566 Cracklantaburbs | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry crusevegas - 2012-08-31 12:02 AM mr2tony - 2012-08-30 8:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon?Kind of like what Eric Holder did? ...and Michael Bloomberg. Goggs, I expect better of you. That was really weak. Edited by bcart1991 2012-08-31 9:05 AM |
| 2012-08-31 9:12 AM in reply to: #4389531 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry bcart1991 - 2012-08-31 9:05 AM crusevegas - 2012-08-31 12:02 AM ...and Michael Bloomberg. Goggs, I expect better of you. That was really weak.mr2tony - 2012-08-30 8:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon?Kind of like what Eric Holder did?
I was just commenting on Dictator Bloomberg on another thread. Mr Straw buy himself |
| 2012-08-31 9:13 AM in reply to: #4389063 |
Champion 17756 SoCal | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry Everyday I'm shufflin' |
| 2012-08-31 9:47 AM in reply to: #4389520 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry Puppetmaster - 2012-08-31 8:56 AM mr2tony - 2012-08-30 10:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon?
Wow I have bought guns for 30 years now. I have never sold one to a gang banger. So how much profit does one make when he drops $700+ at a gun strore for a Sig or F&N or any nice weapon? Seems making a profit means you sell them for more. Well here in Flint (you can look it up) we have shootings. In fact we are rated the most violent place in the USA, because we have shootings. The guns on the street are cheap and are stolen. Then again what else should I expect out of you, Rosie You didn't do it so nobody ever did? Is that your argument? http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/14715658-418/chicago-gangs-dont-... ``In their study, U. of C. researchers combed through gun-trace data to determine the weapons most likely bought by straw purchasers. Those are people without criminal records who buy guns for felons — often at a hefty markup.'' I guess I don't find humor in `shuffling' guns to prevent the government from knowing who has which guns. |
| 2012-08-31 9:52 AM in reply to: #4389617 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-31 10:47 AM I guess I don't find humor in `shuffling' guns to prevent the government from knowing who has which guns. The main thing preventing the government from knowing who has which guns is the law: "After winning a majority, the Tories passed a law this past spring to officially stop the registry and ordered the data destroyed."
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| 2012-08-31 10:02 AM in reply to: #4389628 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry Goosedog - 2012-08-31 7:52 AM mr2tony - 2012-08-31 10:47 AM I guess I don't find humor in `shuffling' guns to prevent the government from knowing who has which guns. The main thing preventing the government from knowing who has which guns is the law: "After winning a majority, the Tories passed a law this past spring to officially stop the registry and ordered the data destroyed."
Why read the article and keep the topic on discussion when you can turn it into an opportunity to bash American gun owners? |
| 2012-08-31 10:04 AM in reply to: #4389617 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-31 10:47 AM I guess I don't find humor in `shuffling' guns to prevent the government from knowing who has which guns. If the government followed the law and destroyed the data it was supposed to because the database is no longer legal, this wouldn't be near as much an issue, nor would there be anything to be ironic/amusing. If you're going to get all huffy about those who break the law, shouldn't you keep consistent and get huffy about the government in this case? |
| 2012-08-31 10:05 AM in reply to: #4389628 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry Goosedog - 2012-08-31 9:52 AM mr2tony - 2012-08-31 10:47 AM I guess I don't find humor in `shuffling' guns to prevent the government from knowing who has which guns. The main thing preventing the government from knowing who has which guns is the law: "After winning a majority, the Tories passed a law this past spring to officially stop the registry and ordered the data destroyed."
I understand that. So why shuffle the guns? If the anti-gun crowd gets its way and the data is kept on file, then why not follow the letter of the law? Again, that's if the data isn't destroyed. If it is destroyed, which it looks like it will be, then they have nothing to worry about. I just don't understand their reasoning. And I certainly don't find what's amusing about it. |
| 2012-08-31 10:10 AM in reply to: #4389617 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-31 7:47 AM Puppetmaster - 2012-08-31 8:56 AM You didn't do it so nobody ever did? Is that your argument? http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/14715658-418/chicago-gangs-dont-... ``In their study, U. of C. researchers combed through gun-trace data to determine the weapons most likely bought by straw purchasers. Those are people without criminal records who buy guns for felons — often at a hefty markup.'' I guess I don't find humor in `shuffling' guns to prevent the government from knowing who has which guns. mr2tony - 2012-08-30 10:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon?
Wow I have bought guns for 30 years now. I have never sold one to a gang banger. So how much profit does one make when he drops $700+ at a gun strore for a Sig or F&N or any nice weapon? Seems making a profit means you sell them for more. Well here in Flint (you can look it up) we have shootings. In fact we are rated the most violent place in the USA, because we have shootings. The guns on the street are cheap and are stolen. Then again what else should I expect out of you, Rosie From your article. "But straw purchasing cases are rare compared to cases involving illegal gun possession and other types of firearm offenses."
Authorities should have a paper trail to find out who purchased the guns, why no prosecution? I think the article by the OP does have some humor, none of it was in reference to anyone doing anything illegal or providing guns for criminals. It was the people acting in a manner to protect tehemselves when entities in the government tried to by-pass a law that was passed to destroy the gun registration information. Maybe you think it's okay for governments to ignore laws? Or maybe you think citizens excercizing the limited freedoms they have is bad? eta quotation marks from Tony's article Edited by crusevegas 2012-08-31 10:13 AM |
| 2012-08-31 10:17 AM in reply to: #4389665 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-31 11:05 AM I understand that. So why shuffle the guns? If the anti-gun crowd gets its way and the data is kept on file, then why not follow the letter of the law? Again, that's if the data isn't destroyed. If it is destroyed, which it looks like it will be, then they have nothing to worry about. I just don't understand their reasoning. And I certainly don't find what's amusing about it. I don't understand how they aren't following the letter of the law (that is no longer). Regardless, let's change the possession to Hustler magazines. Previously the ultra-conservative government needed to maintain a list of all Hustler magazine owners, because ... well ... you know. New government comes in and says it's just silly - repeals maintenance of list and orders it destroyed. Ultra-conservative faction of government (or a city) files a lawsuit seeking to maintain the list for it's own purposes, because ... well ... you know. Hustler magazine owners just trade them around, very legally, so the list is meaningless and as a poke in the eye to the ultra-conversative faction of government. I think that's sort of funny. I have no problem with guns or Hustler magazines.
Edited by Goosedog 2012-08-31 10:21 AM |
| 2012-08-31 10:24 AM in reply to: #4389676 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry I just can't add anything. I did just pick up my fresh shipment of ammo from an internet order, great price. |
| 2012-08-31 10:31 AM in reply to: #4389676 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry crusevegas - 2012-08-31 10:10 AM mr2tony - 2012-08-31 7:47 AM Puppetmaster - 2012-08-31 8:56 AM You didn't do it so nobody ever did? Is that your argument? http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/14715658-418/chicago-gangs-dont-... ``In their study, U. of C. researchers combed through gun-trace data to determine the weapons most likely bought by straw purchasers. Those are people without criminal records who buy guns for felons — often at a hefty markup.'' I guess I don't find humor in `shuffling' guns to prevent the government from knowing who has which guns. mr2tony - 2012-08-30 10:20 PM DanielG - 2012-08-30 8:14 PM http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/30/gun-owners-shuffle-weapons-to-... Why am I not surprised you find that amusing. You know the same thing happens in the U.S. -- guys who can legally purchase weapons go buy guns, then sell them for a profit to gangbangers and other ne'er do wells who scratch the serial numbers off then go use them to kill people and rob people and rape people. Yeah, that's funny sh*t! Where's my ROFL emoticon?
Wow I have bought guns for 30 years now. I have never sold one to a gang banger. So how much profit does one make when he drops $700+ at a gun strore for a Sig or F&N or any nice weapon? Seems making a profit means you sell them for more. Well here in Flint (you can look it up) we have shootings. In fact we are rated the most violent place in the USA, because we have shootings. The guns on the street are cheap and are stolen. Then again what else should I expect out of you, Rosie From your article. "But straw purchasing cases are rare compared to cases involving illegal gun possession and other types of firearm offenses."
Authorities should have a paper trail to find out who purchased the guns, why no prosecution? I think the article by the OP does have some humor, none of it was in reference to anyone doing anything illegal or providing guns for criminals. It was the people acting in a manner to protect tehemselves when entities in the government tried to by-pass a law that was passed to destroy the gun registration information. Maybe you think it's okay for governments to ignore laws? Or maybe you think citizens excercizing the limited freedoms they have is bad? eta quotation marks from Tony's article Neither of those statements is true -- I have no problem with people exercising the freedoms they have and I certainly don't think it's OK for the government to ignore the law. And neither is happening in this case. While in the U.S. we have the second amendment that gives us a Constitutional right to bear arms, they are not governed by such a document in CANADA, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT COUNTRY! So the question is, do they have a right in Canada to bear arms, or is that a privilege afforded them by the government? The latter, because, again, they're not part of the U.S. where we have a right to bear arms and they have no Constitution affording them such a right. I guess if you want to say that swapping guns is exercising a freedom, well then OK, that's fine, but I don't really see the point, and again don't find it amusing. And frankly, the government isn't preventing them from doing it. So is the government ignoring the law, as you said? No, because it clearly states in the article that there is opposition within the government of Quebec, which is a singular province, to destroying the database and it may, however unlikely, not be destroyed after an injunction was filed to prevent it from being lost forever. Now, that's not the government ignoring the law. That's called due process. As I said, if it's found that the database should be destroyed, great, problem solved for everybody. If it isn't destroyed, then so be it, problem also solved. |
| 2012-08-31 11:18 AM in reply to: #4389721 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry I hear your words Tony, however you very first post equated what the law abiding citizens in Canada were doing with illegal activity our on Department of Justice participated in. |
| 2012-08-31 11:20 AM in reply to: #4389828 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry crusevegas - 2012-08-31 11:18 AM I hear your words Tony, however you very first post equated what the law abiding citizens in Canada were doing with illegal activity our on Department of Justice participated in. It's true. I apologize for that -- I was tired and cranky. |
| 2012-08-31 11:23 AM in reply to: #4389832 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-31 9:20 AM crusevegas - 2012-08-31 11:18 AM It's true. I apologize for that -- I was tired and cranky. I hear your words Tony, however you very first post equated what the law abiding citizens in Canada were doing with illegal activity our on Department of Justice participated in. Your,,, no You R,,,, oh wait no I got You're a good man Tony, have a great weekend. |
| 2012-08-31 12:14 PM in reply to: #4389832 |
| Subject: RE: Gun owners shuffle weapons to confuse registry mr2tony - 2012-08-31 11:20 AM crusevegas - 2012-08-31 11:18 AM It's true. I apologize for that -- I was tired and cranky. I hear your words Tony, however you very first post equated what the law abiding citizens in Canada were doing with illegal activity our on Department of Justice participated in.
See staying up late and watching Rosie make you tired and cranky |
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