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2008-08-05 12:07 PM

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Subject: K2 brand of bikes???
I'm shopping for a new bike, and I found a women's tri bike at REI by a brand called K2. It's on clearance (it's a 2006 edition). I like the paint job, my hubby's excited about the price. BUT, I've never heard of them, and I'm not getting a tri bike that will fall apart on me the second race. Have any of you heard of this brand? Pros? Cons? Any info is appreciated.


2008-08-05 12:27 PM
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watergirl - 2008-08-05 10:07 AM

I'm shopping for a new bike, and I found a women's tri bike at REI by a brand called K2. It's on clearance (it's a 2006 edition). I like the paint job, my hubby's excited about the price. BUT, I've never heard of them, and I'm not getting a tri bike that will fall apart on me the second race. Have any of you heard of this brand? Pros? Cons? Any info is appreciated.


You say it's a "tri bike"...I have an older K2 road bike from REI (bought on clearance in late 2006) and wasn't aware they make tri bikes--i.e., time trial bikes. Sure it isn't a road bike frame with either clip-on aerobars (or a new set of aerobar handlebars)?

I'm still riding my K2 as a commuter bike, but it isn't a great racing bike...I did three sprints and an Oly before finally upgrading.

PROS:

--Cheap, cheap, cheap. (Got mine for $469.)
--Durable. (I guess that's a "pro".)

CONS:

--Heavy. With no add-ons (such as clip-on aerobars), my Mach 1.0 weighs 23.5 lbs. That's a lot to lug up hills on Olys and beyond.
--Default tires on K2 roadies are 700-25C (or wider) rather than the more common 700-23C. There's more rubber on the road with 25s, so more friction.
--The stock toe-cage pedals REI had on mine were plastic and ultimately cracked (with not that much mileage on them). The store was good enough to swap them out for alloy pedals when that happened.
--The low end (Mach 1.0) road bike has a Sora setup...you can find entry-level bikes with slightly better Shimano setups out them at only a slightly higher price point.

I see REI is now dealing Scott as well as Cannondale...Scott Speedsters are decent low end road bikes. K2 is primarily a mountain bike manufacturer...I've only ever seen one other K2 road bike besides mine in a tri. I like mine as a commuter bike, but I'm much faster on my new road bike (for which I only paid $700 out the door at a LBS).

If the specific pricepoint of the K2 will get you off a hybrid and onto a roadie, go for it (that's why I bought mine). Just understand that it has it's limitations. (If you are looking at any of the K2s above the Mach 1.0 and you're okay with the price, then you might look at other makes at REI, like the Cannondales, Scotts, and their house brand, Novara...which is better than K2.)

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2008-08-05 12:30 PM
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2008-08-05 12:54 PM
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I don't recommend buying a bike that you can't ride first.  Prices may be nice, but a poorly fitted bike is a pain.  I don't know anything about K2 bikes.  I have noticed them online, but have never seen one in person.
2008-08-05 1:18 PM
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flmonkey_gbp - 2008-08-05 10:54 AM

I don't recommend buying a bike that you can't ride first.  Prices may be nice, but a poorly fitted bike is a pain.  I don't know anything about K2 bikes.  I have noticed them online, but have never seen one in person.


Not sure she's saying she can't ride it first...I bought my K2 in the store at REI and rode it first. She mentioned the "paint job"...that doesn't necessarily sound like an online purchase (though maybe it is).

Having said that, a whole lot of people on this forum bought Javelin bikes by phone during the recent massive clearance, meaning they didn't ride them first. The trick is getting the right size frame to buy...a fitting will happen at or after purchase.
2008-08-05 1:23 PM
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One thing I forgot about the K2 Mach 1.0...it's a "compact" geometry frame...the sloping top tube geometry. That tends to yield a seat tube angle that most people would say is not ideal for triathlons. You may never notice/be bothered by that, but it is something else to consider in the purchase, just as a data point.


2008-08-05 2:14 PM
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K2 makes 2 TT/Triathlon bikes called Red Zone, the mens is black and the womans is yellow, both bike are outfitted with 105 comp. Sizes are XS, S, M, and Large, be careful on the fit. Bike is a good starter bike with someone on a budget....I have seen the bike selling for $799.00 on the internet and have road the bike at a LBS. I passed on the bike due to sizing issue.
2008-08-05 4:24 PM
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zeroviz - 2008-08-05 12:14 PM

K2 makes 2 TT/Triathlon bikes called Red Zone, the mens is black and the womans is yellow, both bike are outfitted with 105 comp. Sizes are XS, S, M, and Large, be careful on the fit. Bike is a good starter bike with someone on a budget....I have seen the bike selling for $799.00 on the internet and have road the bike at a LBS. I passed on the bike due to sizing issue.


This must be discontinued...never seen it at REI or in their online catalog and K2 doesn't have this line in their catalog at all...
2008-08-05 4:42 PM
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The bike I'm looking at looks like this:

which looks like a tri bike to me. I haven't seen it in person, and wanted to get y'all's opinions before I drove an hour into Atlanta to the closest REI. I currently have a road bike (Motobecane), so I'm not shopping for a MTB or hybrid. I'd REALLY like a tri bike, or at least a better road bike.

The specs:
Frame    7005 aluminum with carbon fiber seatstays
Fork    Kinesis with carbon fiber blades
Crankset    FSA Compact double, 50/34
Shifters    Shimano Dura Ace
Brakes    Tektro dual pivot
Brake levers    Tetro aero bar-end
Front derailleur    Shimano 105
Rear derailleur    Shimano 105
Head set    FSA IS-3
Bottom bracket    TH Isis drive
Rear cog    Shimano 105 10-speed 12/25
Front hub    Joytech
Rear hub    Joytech
Rims    Alex R-500
Tires    Kenda Koncept, 700x23
Stem    FSA/Vision Tech SizeMore
Handlebar    FSA/Vision Tech Base Bar
Seat post    Kalloy micro adjust 300 millimeters
Saddle    T:Nine triathlon design
Pedals    Platform
Chain    Shimano 105
Weight    20.5 pounds

2008-08-05 4:43 PM
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I have  a K2 mountain bike and love it.  Weight isn't an issue as it's an MTB.  But I've had it for several years with no issues.

Quality bike if it fits correctly.

2008-08-05 6:51 PM
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tcovert - 2008-08-05 2:24 PM
zeroviz - 2008-08-05 12:14 PM K2 makes 2 TT/Triathlon bikes called Red Zone, the mens is black and the womans is yellow, both bike are outfitted with 105 comp. Sizes are XS, S, M, and Large, be careful on the fit. Bike is a good starter bike with someone on a budget....I have seen the bike selling for $799.00 on the internet and have road the bike at a LBS. I passed on the bike due to sizing issue.
This must be discontinued...never seen it at REI or in their online catalog and K2 doesn't have this line in their catalog at all...

Below is a link to the 2007 Red Zone - doesn't look like they are making them in 2008.  They had them for $799 at rscycle.com but only size small is available now. 

http://www.k2bikes.com/index.php?brand=2007&series=MENS%20K2&type=ROAD&model=RED%20ZONE&2007=true

Apologies to watergirl for going off-topic a little.  I'll let someone more knowledgeable comment on the bike you are looking at but it looks decent to me so long as it will fit etc...



2008-08-06 8:05 AM
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Honestly, that looks like it will be a decent bike if you can get it at a reasonable price. The only thing I see on the spec sheet that will be questionable are the Joytech hubs.

K2 makes bikes that are geared toward the person who is starting to step up from the rides to he dairy queen type person to those who are going to ride more than once a week. While the frame won't be a super whizzbang Cervelo or Felt, I'm sure it will serve your needs just fine.

So what kind of price are you getting it for?
2008-08-06 10:33 AM
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danielc - 2008-08-05 7:51 PM

tcovert - 2008-08-05 2:24 PM
zeroviz - 2008-08-05 12:14 PM K2 makes 2 TT/Triathlon bikes called Red Zone, the mens is black and the womans is yellow, both bike are outfitted with 105 comp. Sizes are XS, S, M, and Large, be careful on the fit. Bike is a good starter bike with someone on a budget....I have seen the bike selling for $799.00 on the internet and have road the bike at a LBS. I passed on the bike due to sizing issue.
This must be discontinued...never seen it at REI or in their online catalog and K2 doesn't have this line in their catalog at all...

Below is a link to the 2007 Red Zone - doesn't look like they are making them in 2008.  They had them for $799 at rscycle.com but only size small is available now. 

http://www.k2bikes.com/index.php?brand=2007&series=MENS%20K2&type=ROAD&model=RED%20ZONE&2007=true

Apologies to watergirl for going off-topic a little.  I'll let someone more knowledgeable comment on the bike you are looking at but it looks decent to me so long as it will fit etc...

Not a problem. That's what these threads are for!
2008-08-06 10:42 AM
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Nelg - 2008-08-06 9:05 AM Honestly, that looks like it will be a decent bike if you can get it at a reasonable price. The only thing I see on the spec sheet that will be questionable are the Joytech hubs. K2 makes bikes that are geared toward the person who is starting to step up from the rides to he dairy queen type person to those who are going to ride more than once a week. While the frame won't be a super whizzbang Cervelo or Felt, I'm sure it will serve your needs just fine. So what kind of price are you getting it for?
If I get it, I found it at performancebikes.com for $699. I think I'll head to REI and see if they've got a sample first. I'm also looking at a Trek for about $1900, but that's the very highest end of my price range. I'm finding it's hard to hold onto my cheap personality and be a triathlete.
2008-08-06 10:48 AM
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2008-08-06 12:18 PM
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watergirl - 2008-08-06 11:42 AM 
I'm finding it's hard to hold onto my cheap personality and be a triathlete.

Yeah....sigh... I feel your pain.  (I got my first new bike this year, a KHS, and it is lovely).  
 

 



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Winston63 - 2008-08-06 11:48 AM

I think this is the bike;

http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/760663


Yep, that's the bike, although I found it cheaper.

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watergirl - 2008-08-06 11:42 AM 
I'm finding it's hard to hold onto my cheap personality and be a triathlete.

Yeah....sigh... I feel your pain.  (I got my first new bike this year, a KHS, and it is lovely).  

The one in your avatar? It is lovely! It's hard to be a "good" triathlete and be cheap.
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Nelg - 2008-08-06 9:05 AM Honestly, that looks like it will be a decent bike if you can get it at a reasonable price. The only thing I see on the spec sheet that will be questionable are the Joytech hubs. K2 makes bikes that are geared toward the person who is starting to step up from the rides to he dairy queen type person to those who are going to ride more than once a week. While the frame won't be a super whizzbang Cervelo or Felt, I'm sure it will serve your needs just fine. So what kind of price are you getting it for?
If I get it, I found it at performancebikes.com for $699. I think I'll head to REI and see if they've got a sample first. I'm also looking at a Trek for about $1900, but that's the very highest end of my price range. I'm finding it's hard to hold onto my cheap personality and be a triathlete.


Honestly after thinking about it more, if you already have a road bike, going to a inexpensive tri bike is not going to be any better than just doubling your bike mileage and adding clip on aero bars. You can win your age group on a road bike, just ride more.

The K2 will certainly work fine, but I don't think you are going to find it to be a giant leap over your current bike unless you have fit/function issues with the Moto. My only worry about seeing you purchase a bike like this is wanting to upgrade again in a couple years when you could have just held off, saved a bit more toward a better bike and just be done with it for a few years.

You know, that Trek may only be $1,400 or $1,500 as a year end close out....
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watergirl - 2008-08-05 5:42 PM

The bike I'm looking at looks like this:

which looks like a tri bike to me. I haven't seen it in person, and wanted to get y'all's opinions before I drove an hour into Atlanta to the closest REI. I currently have a road bike (Motobecane), so I'm not shopping for a MTB or hybrid. I'd REALLY like a tri bike, or at least a better road bike.

The specs:
Frame    7005 aluminum with carbon fiber seatstays
Fork    Kinesis with carbon fiber blades
Crankset    FSA Compact double, 50/34
Shifters    Shimano Dura Ace
Brakes    Tektro dual pivot
Brake levers    Tetro aero bar-end
Front derailleur    Shimano 105
Rear derailleur    Shimano 105
Head set    FSA IS-3
Bottom bracket    TH Isis drive
Rear cog    Shimano 105 10-speed 12/25
Front hub    Joytech
Rear hub    Joytech
Rims    Alex R-500
Tires    Kenda Koncept, 700x23
Stem    FSA/Vision Tech SizeMore
Handlebar    FSA/Vision Tech Base Bar
Seat post    Kalloy micro adjust 300 millimeters
Saddle    T:Nine triathlon design
Pedals    Platform
Chain    Shimano 105
Weight    20.5 pounds

My bike partner has that bike. It does squeak. We call it tweety but she has raced, let me think, probably 3-4 sprints and 2-3 Oly's on it. She's had it a year + now. She put some fancy tires on it.

As far as I know she has no complaints.

 You could pm her . She posts in the GA forum under Ms.Browndog_ us.

Edited to add that we ride similar paces. However, I think--and think she would agree-- I am faster on the uphill and I have a roadie: a trek 1200. It is a 2005 or 2006. I would like a more agressive bike but it does me fine. However, I've only done one tri. But I did do a century on my bike and was fine.  I am considering gettting some aerobars for my half iron in Sept. But I seem to be fine without. I mean, I can keep up with the group when we ride.

 

 



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NatNegativeSplit - 2008-08-06 7:29 PM
watergirl - 2008-08-05 5:42 PM

The bike I'm looking at looks like this:

which looks like a tri bike to me. I haven't seen it in person, and wanted to get y'all's opinions before I drove an hour into Atlanta to the closest REI. I currently have a road bike (Motobecane), so I'm not shopping for a MTB or hybrid. I'd REALLY like a tri bike, or at least a better road bike.

The specs:
Frame    7005 aluminum with carbon fiber seatstays
Fork    Kinesis with carbon fiber blades
Crankset    FSA Compact double, 50/34
Shifters    Shimano Dura Ace
Brakes    Tektro dual pivot
Brake levers    Tetro aero bar-end
Front derailleur    Shimano 105
Rear derailleur    Shimano 105
Head set    FSA IS-3
Bottom bracket    TH Isis drive
Rear cog    Shimano 105 10-speed 12/25
Front hub    Joytech
Rear hub    Joytech
Rims    Alex R-500
Tires    Kenda Koncept, 700x23
Stem    FSA/Vision Tech SizeMore
Handlebar    FSA/Vision Tech Base Bar
Seat post    Kalloy micro adjust 300 millimeters
Saddle    T:Nine triathlon design
Pedals    Platform
Chain    Shimano 105
Weight    20.5 pounds

My bike partner has that bike. It does squeak. We call it tweety but she has raced, let me think, probably 3-4 sprints and 2-3 Oly's on it. She's had it a year + now. She put some fancy tires on it.

As far as I know she has no complaints.

 You could pm her . She posts in the GA forum under Ms.Browndog_ us.

Edited to add that we ride similar paces. However, I think--and think she would agree-- I am faster on the uphill and I have a roadie: a trek 1200. It is a 2005 or 2006. I would like a more agressive bike but it does me fine. However, I've only done one tri. But I did do a century on my bike and was fine.  I am considering gettting some aerobars for my half iron in Sept. But I seem to be fine without. I mean, I can keep up with the group when we ride.


SWEET! Someone who owns it! Thank you. I'll pm her.
2008-08-08 11:18 AM
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Although it looks like a Tri Bike, what makes it a "Tri Bike" is the geometry. I looked at the link someone provided and couldn't find the geometry of the bike.  I'd find out the frame specifications and compare it to bikes that you know to be true "Tri" bikes. Otherwise, you'll just be buying another "Roadie".

 



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watergirl, i think i just saw this bike at performance bike for $699...just fyi
2008-08-08 2:43 PM
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watergirl - 2008-08-05 5:42 PM

The bike I'm looking at looks like this:

Must say, you would not have a hard time fanding THAT one in transition!!

My take?  If it is what you can afford and you are happy with the fit and .... uh hum ..... color, then go for it!

But if you are buying it for the sole purpose of really "wanting" a tri bike and feeling this is an opportunity to do it, don't compromise in quality.  For example, those wheels suck.  But the rest of the package seems okay, especially for the price.

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We bought my wife a K2 T9 Whirlwind Road bike for her first Sprint back in March. It is a nice bike for $470! Carbon fork, and Shimano components(albeit low-end Sora), the bike rides better than my old Centurion Tri-bike. I have to say that if it fit me, I would race her's and mine would be converted to a SS.
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