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 2012-12-13 8:26 PM |
Champion  7347     SRQ, FL |  Subject: Broken record"We're going to have to see the rates on the top 2 percent go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it" - Pres. Obama I think Obama is making himself look like a fool when he won't back off this "tax the 2%" broken record. We've all done the math. This is not going to fix the problem. Yet he will NOT let it go. And they call the GOP the "party of NO"? Both sides are crossing their arms, stomping their feet and pouting like 2 year olds.
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| 2012-12-13 8:35 PM in reply to: #4534673 |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota | Subject: RE: Broken record Yes, as in "This post is a Broken Record". We heard almost the exact same thing like 2 days ago in the Climas thread: rayd - 2-12-11 11:26 AM jldicarlo - 2012-12-11 8:44 AM Okay, I don't get it...why can't these people just compromise? Seriously...billions of people around the world strike bargains EVERY SINGLE DAY. It's a 30 second conversation...$25? No, $40. $30? No, $37. $33? Okay. See, done. Why is this so hard for Washington? F'ing seriously...meet in the middle already.
well, when you have a POTUS telling the media that he WILL NOT compromise on raising taxes on the 2% it is not going to help things any. If he has that position, he needs to keep it out of the news headlines and go in to negotiations at least appearing to be objective and willing to look at everything. Seems to be a basic negotiation strategy that his advisors negelected to coach him on...or he choses to ignor. Congress is a bunchof knuckleheads and are not thinking about who they are representing. But really, most of us can't get too upset when we re-elect these clowns. If it didn't work before...what would make it better a second time around?
Absolutely. When the GOP did this they were the "Party of No". Yet when Obama does it he's sticking to his principles. I'm really looking forward to the poopstorm that is going to be created when we go off the cliff and millions of middle and lower class citizens suddenly have their taxes go up all because Obama refuses to cut out this class warfare BS. Raising taxes on the rich will NOT fix the problem. Everyone knows this. The math is undeniable.
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| 2012-12-13 8:36 PM in reply to: #4534673 |
Master 2380 Beijing | Subject: RE: Broken record TriRSquared - 2012-12-12 9:26 PM "We're going to have to see the rates on the top 2 percent go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it" - Pres. Obama I think Obama is making himself look like a fool when he won't back off this "tax the 2%" broken record. We've all done the math. This is not going to fix the problem. Yet he will NOT let it go. And they call the GOP the "party of NO"? Both sides are crossing their arms, stomping their feet and pouting like 2 year olds.
Agreed. Especially when GOP has already said that they'd go for an increase in revenue through the reduction of deductions. CBO says capping deductions at $50k nets about $750B in increased revenues, without touching rates. Add in a "millionaires" tax bracket instead of a $250k tax bracket and you get even closer. Clearly, however, neither side is interested in actually serving the people... if it's going to cost them any political capital. As one of my friends on facebook said: "We're going over the "fiscal cliff" and we've been going over it since at least November and probably more like August. It takes months to draft tax legislation, and while everyone is arguing about this proposal or that, the "months" come after the high level stuff is agreed to. Only then can actual legislation be drafted. Unless someone is squatting on a 3000 page tax bill, all this arguing over a list of bullet points is just for show." |
| 2012-12-13 8:47 PM in reply to: #4534673 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: Broken record My bet is they vote to "postpone" the cliff. So what's the point of having a deadline if you can just move the deadline? |
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