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2013-06-08 3:54 PM

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Cabela's catalog came yesterday.  I don't usually look at it, but I was chained to the kitchen with considerable downtime, found myself flipping through, and then I saw this little gem:

Oh, and it folds up with a handle--

 

Wait, it get's better.  There's also a toilet paper dispenser.

And the pièce de résistance:

Discreet, hygienic and easy to use. Fits easily in your purse, pocket or glove compartment. No more trying to cover an unsanitary public toilet. Patented splash guard eliminates mess and spilling. Dispose after use or clean and reuse. Made of flexible, medical-grade silicone.

Even after the description I can't figure out what this thing is for.

WTF?  What happened to packing a trowel and calling it good?



2013-06-08 4:54 PM
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hey! Don't knock the go girl! My three girls each carry one when we go on long hikes. They can just step off the trail and go without having to drop trou around their ankles. Minimizes sock and shoe "spatter" too, if you get my drift.
2013-06-08 5:20 PM
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I guess I'd rather step a few more feet off the trail and drop trou than carry a pink plastic oversized ice cream/urine scoop thingy. 

But if it makes your girls more comfortable getting outdoors, then that's cool:

Somehow mine manage without, but they pee outside a lot. A lot.

 

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2013-06-08 5:42 PM
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OK.  Excellent points.

Snakes and scorpions--I'm out. Kudos to you for even going.  I'll send you a pink thing.

2013-06-08 9:41 PM
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Some places require a groover and that you carry out everything you carry in. A lot of river permits require one and they inspect when you launch. They are also useful when camping in the middle of potty training.


2013-06-09 4:20 AM
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Subject: RE: If you "need" to buy these products, maybe camping isn't for you.
Discreet, hygienic and easy to use. Fits easily in your purse, pocket or glove compartment. No more trying to cover an unsanitary public toilet. Patented splash guard eliminates mess and spilling. Dispose after use or clean and reuse. Made of flexible, medical-grade silicone.

What criteria are considered for disposal versus clean and re-use? Only the "eww" factor or if you're a severe germaphobe. One never re-uses?

Thank God for my exo-genetalia so that I never have to expend intellectual energy on such decisions.
2013-06-09 4:23 PM
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The portable toilet is good if you're gonna be somewhere a long time.
Combat outposts use them because after a week of a platoon using a cat trench, you've effectively ruined that ground forever whereas you can take the trash out every day.
Teejay, do I recognize the Tucson Mountain Park trail in that pic? (Tuson- c is unnecessary)
As I ran at dawn there one morning, I kept hearing the rocks chattering as I ran by. Kinda scary. Couldn't imagine copping a squat around there.
2013-06-09 7:00 PM
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What do you do with the discreet pink plastic scoop after you've peed through it? Put it in your pocket? I'm pretty good at squatting and would just rather do that.
2013-06-09 7:22 PM
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What do you do with the discreet pink plastic scoop after you've peed through it? Put it in your pocket? I'm pretty good at squatting and would just rather do that.


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2013-06-09 7:52 PM
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Originally posted by Quigley What do you do with the discreet pink plastic scoop after you've peed through it? Put it in your pocket? I'm pretty good at squatting and would just rather do that.

This.^

I don't have a splatter problem, and the squatting is good to go.  I guess I'm not that modest either.  I don't just drop my pants anywhere, but if someone came up on me--meh, no big deal. 

Scorpions and snakes are a different story.  Teejay, all the snakes I can think of would get the hell away from that if it was coming down--probably get away from you and the trail just from footsteps approaching, right?  Unless it was cold?  Are there aggressive scorpions?

Military or extended camping is different.  I guess I'm thinking about car camping or backpacking.  These items just seem like more stuff that doesn't need to be made and doesn't need to be bought.



2013-06-09 8:33 PM
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2013-06-09 9:05 PM
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Originally posted by Teejaay

Originally posted by GomesBolt The portable toilet is good if you're gonna be somewhere a long time. Combat outposts use them because after a week of a platoon using a cat trench, you've effectively ruined that ground forever whereas you can take the trash out every day. Teejay, do I recognize the Tucson Mountain Park trail in that pic? (Tuson- c is unnecessary) As I ran at dawn there one morning, I kept hearing the rocks chattering as I ran by. Kinda scary. Couldn't imagine copping a squat around there.

No.  That's out in my hood on the north east side .. Sabino Canyon!  Where the mountain lions play! 

Switch ... the snakes are more scared of me than I am of them.  And scorpions .. not really an issue.  I've been stung 4 times and all were inside the house, in the bed, in my robe .. etc.  But there are cacti, jagged rocks and spiders .. it's hard enough to pull down my pants and squat in plain view without being a tad anxious .. hoping someone doesn't see from the trail above me or come around the corner .. and then having to worry about about critters and bugs and such just makes it worse!  Hiking in the mountains or camping .. I have no problems finding a bush to do my bizness in though.  No need for a porto-toilet!

OMG!!! FOUR times stung by a scorpion!!!!I would never sleep in the bed again!!! Or wear a robe!!!

That being said- we squat here in this neck of the woods.  I would probably feel more weird about someone seeing me use the pink thing that coping a squat to pee. Personally, I also would rather squat than put something with pee on it back in my pocket given the choice. Not that anything is wrong with it, and if someone is comfortable using it I say go for it!

Another thought about the portable toilets- I think a lot of preppers shop Cabellas & other camping gear and that looks like something one might advocate for a long term survival situation at home, because theoretically if the water gets cut off & you choose to stay you have to go '2' somewhere & you cant risk contaminating your area Smile

But yeah, for an average weekend camping trip? A little much!

2013-06-10 5:46 AM
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I got a go girl as a joke...but I will say, it is handy on the boat when it's cold/windy/choppy etc., all those times when the convoluted mechanics of chucking a whizz off a fishing boat are not really feasible.

Otherwise, I jus drop trou.
2013-06-10 8:46 AM
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Subject: RE: If you "need" to buy these products, maybe camping isn't for you.
Then, perhaps, pesons should just wear these and carry a couple of extras in the backpack?
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2013-06-10 8:53 AM
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Originally posted by Meljoypip
Originally posted by Teejaay

Originally posted by GomesBolt The portable toilet is good if you're gonna be somewhere a long time. Combat outposts use them because after a week of a platoon using a cat trench, you've effectively ruined that ground forever whereas you can take the trash out every day. Teejay, do I recognize the Tucson Mountain Park trail in that pic? (Tuson- c is unnecessary) As I ran at dawn there one morning, I kept hearing the rocks chattering as I ran by. Kinda scary. Couldn't imagine copping a squat around there.

No.  That's out in my hood on the north east side .. Sabino Canyon!  Where the mountain lions play!  :)

Switch ... the snakes are more scared of me than I am of them.  And scorpions .. not really an issue.  I've been stung 4 times and all were inside the house, in the bed, in my robe .. etc.  But there are cacti, jagged rocks and spiders .. it's hard enough to pull down my pants and squat in plain view without being a tad anxious .. hoping someone doesn't see from the trail above me or come around the corner .. and then having to worry about about critters and bugs and such just makes it worse!  Hiking in the mountains or camping .. I have no problems finding a bush to do my bizness in though.  No need for a porto-toilet! :)

OMG!!! FOUR times stung by a scorpion!!!!I would never sleep in the bed again!!! Or wear a robe!!!

That being said- we squat here in this neck of the woods.  I would probably feel more weird about someone seeing me use the pink thing that coping a squat to pee. Personally, I also would rather squat than put something with pee on it back in my pocket given the choice. Not that anything is wrong with it, and if someone is comfortable using it I say go for it!

Another thought about the portable toilets- I think a lot of preppers shop Cabellas & other camping gear and that looks like something one might advocate for a long term survival situation at home, because theoretically if the water gets cut off & you choose to stay you have to go '2' somewhere & you cant risk contaminating your area Smile

But yeah, for an average weekend camping trip? A little much!

Preppers--how could I forget about them!  Of course. Don't they all have composting toilets that can be hooked up to diesel generators?

We have an outdoor bathroom set up for groups of kids that come out to the farm that is a 5 gallon bucket and a toilet seat in a teepee. We call it the peepee teepee, though we usually encourage them to peepee out and about and save the teepee for bigger business.  Pretty cheap compared to the Cabela's version.



2013-06-10 10:54 AM
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Subject: RE: If you "need" to buy these products, maybe camping isn't for you.
Originally posted by switch

Originally posted by Meljoypip
Originally posted by Teejaay

Originally posted by GomesBolt The portable toilet is good if you're gonna be somewhere a long time. Combat outposts use them because after a week of a platoon using a cat trench, you've effectively ruined that ground forever whereas you can take the trash out every day. Teejay, do I recognize the Tucson Mountain Park trail in that pic? (Tuson- c is unnecessary) As I ran at dawn there one morning, I kept hearing the rocks chattering as I ran by. Kinda scary. Couldn't imagine copping a squat around there.

No.  That's out in my hood on the north east side .. Sabino Canyon!  Where the mountain lions play! 

Switch ... the snakes are more scared of me than I am of them.  And scorpions .. not really an issue.  I've been stung 4 times and all were inside the house, in the bed, in my robe .. etc.  But there are cacti, jagged rocks and spiders .. it's hard enough to pull down my pants and squat in plain view without being a tad anxious .. hoping someone doesn't see from the trail above me or come around the corner .. and then having to worry about about critters and bugs and such just makes it worse!  Hiking in the mountains or camping .. I have no problems finding a bush to do my bizness in though.  No need for a porto-toilet!

OMG!!! FOUR times stung by a scorpion!!!!I would never sleep in the bed again!!! Or wear a robe!!!

That being said- we squat here in this neck of the woods.  I would probably feel more weird about someone seeing me use the pink thing that coping a squat to pee. Personally, I also would rather squat than put something with pee on it back in my pocket given the choice. Not that anything is wrong with it, and if someone is comfortable using it I say go for it!

Another thought about the portable toilets- I think a lot of preppers shop Cabellas & other camping gear and that looks like something one might advocate for a long term survival situation at home, because theoretically if the water gets cut off & you choose to stay you have to go '2' somewhere & you cant risk contaminating your area Smile

But yeah, for an average weekend camping trip? A little much!

Preppers--how could I forget about them!  Of course. Don't they all have composting toilets that can be hooked up to diesel generators?

We have an outdoor bathroom set up for groups of kids that come out to the farm that is a 5 gallon bucket and a toilet seat in a teepee. We call it the peepee teepee, though we usually encourage them to peepee out and about and save the teepee for bigger business.  Pretty cheap compared to the Cabela's version.




Yeah I tend to try to avoid porta-potties of that caliber. But then I avoid all porta-potties if I can. The only time I'll really use one is at a race, which is funny. I'm a total germaphobe unless I'm doing a run or tri. It reminds me of the old joke:

Q: How do you know when you've become a real triathlete?
A: When you use an overflowing portapotty. In your bare feet.
2013-06-10 12:16 PM
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I can't imagine that carrying a toilet, no matter how portable would be preferable to good old squatting.  I always end up spraying a little on shoes or socks...ah well.  I'm in the middle of the woods, just rub some dirt on it, all good.

As for those hiking where a squat could lead to a scorpion stinging your lady parts, astronaut diaper perhaps?? Wink

2013-06-10 1:32 PM
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When I was about 5 - 6, my Dad brought us up Nort' to his childhood home out in the country (with no neighbors within a couple of miles), which had no running water (a hand pump) and an outhouse (but couldn't use the outhouse for some reason), my Mom had me take this out to the backyard and use it (dog's nose not included):
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2013-06-10 1:34 PM
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Originally posted by 1stTimeTri When I was about 5 - 6, my Dad brought us up Nort' to his childhood home out in the country (with no neighbors within a couple of miles), which had no running water (a hand pump) and an outhouse (but couldn't use the outhouse for some reason), my Mom had me take this out to the backyard and use it (dog's nose not included): http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img/item/148/435/297/TJih.jpg

Good boy!

2013-06-10 5:57 PM
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2013-06-10 6:40 PM
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There are a few good ones in there.  I'm a back country camping kinda girl.  I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll car camp, but my first choice, by far, is self-contained, preferably a few days away from a trail head or point of resupply. 

If you can hike for a whole day and not see or hear another human, that is a good day.  It's getting harder to do.

2013-06-11 5:31 AM
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There are a few good ones in there.  I'm a back country camping kinda girl.  I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll car camp, but my first choice, by far, is self-contained, preferably a few days away from a trail head or point of resupply. 

If you can hike for a whole day and not see or hear another human, that is a good day.  It's getting harder to do.



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2013-06-11 7:54 AM
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There are a few good ones in there.  I'm a back country camping kinda girl.  I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll car camp, but my first choice, by far, is self-contained, preferably a few days away from a trail head or point of resupply. 

If you can hike for a whole day and not see or hear another human, that is a good day.  It's getting harder to do.

Boundary Waters. Greatest place on earth <3

And I have never been there.  I have heard great things though.  When is the best time of year to go?  Isn't there a period to avoid because of mosquitos or black flys or something?

Do you float or hike when you go to the Boundary Waters?

2013-06-11 9:32 AM
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Well, there's always bugs if you are outside in Minnesota in the summer (or, any time that isn't winter, I suppose...).

As for the best time...depends on what you like. Spring (late May/Memorial Day) has some great fishing, as the ice is just out and the fish are all in makin' fishie babies or whatever it is they do in the shallows. But the water is COLD, and it is one of the more dangerous times to go b/c of that (and the flooding, etc.). July is peak season, but if you go far in, you're alone (which is what we do). It's great to be out fishing until 11, for sure. But it is buggy (since it's summer :p). There is like an hour at dusk where it can get irritating, but on the whole...you'd be fine. Personally, the Labor Day time of the year--early September--is my favorite time. You CAN get some colder days...but there's also the chance for some hot ones, but in general, it's pretty temperate and consistent (well, what PASSES for consistent in MN), and the water is still warm enough to get into every day for a splash down/how'syourfather/clean up. By the end of September/October, it's starting to get cold, but still pretty. October you're almost to winter. Some nuts DO go up during the winter, but I think it's way too dangerous, IMO. Beautiful, but dangerous.

Like I said, Labor Day is my favorite time. If we only get up once during the year (although we try to go more often), it is ALWAYS over Labor Day.

We paddle and portage, as we fish. People do hike, and there are trails (the Kek trail, for example), where you can get in pretty deep and access the sites. Personally, I like the boat, as you can cover a lot more ground, and there is the fishing thing. Plus, you can then take day trips to other spots (including to places to hike, were you so inclined).
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