George Bush, "Live Strong" Bracelet...

I've seen him on TV with one one...but don't know of any photos off hand.

I'm sure they're out there.

Amy...better buy hubby a bracelet cuz I found a photo for you!

Carpe Diem 2004, Issue 1

This is a newsletter at laf.org.  Scroll down to page 4 of the .pdf and you'll see a photo of Pres. Bush with an survivor's advocate and he's displaying a light colored bracelet.  Now, hubby my try to weasel out and say that, because it's a b&w photo, we aren't sure of the color, so be warned.  But, hopefully, your dh will own up to his bet and wear the bracelet.

Enjoy!

Bad timing, bad manners, bad taste, and misplaced.  If you want to take a swipe at us Bush supporters who  wear the yellow band, then instead of hijacking this thread and inserting your opinion where its clearly not part of the topic, the right and courteous thing to do is to start your own somewhere else.  I frankly don't care about your political leanings and they are not being asked of you as part of this thread.  I'm now mad at myself for having even spent the time to reply to your unwelcome remarks.

There's a wonderful saying that goes, "its better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you're rude than to open your mouth and prove it."

You're probably right, but anytime someone puts "George Bush" (or for that matter "Liberal" or "Hillary Clinton" or "Karl Rove" or "conservative" or any other devisive person/term/issue) in a subject line, they're just itchin' for a fight.

Heh...exactly. And this is the OT forum...and Hawkeye did settle the issue for the OP.  Actually, once a questions asked has been answered, I say hijack away!

Well, actually, since the conservative party line is anti-stem cell research, I guess you could argue that maybe they're pro-cancer. And if you think about it, cancer makes the pharma companies a pretty good chunk o' change, and if there were no cancer, I guess there'd be no need for cancer meds, and therefore the pharma companies would lose lotsa potential income. So...therefore...conservatives are naturally pro-cancer!

(tounge firmly in cheek)

Thanks for the clarification, but I don't think it hurts my pretend argument.

Oh...I completely agree. That's why I said "party line" and not "all conservatives." Naturally, it would be hard to find an issue where every person that identifies with a particular party universally agrees. And it is good to know that all conservatives don't have their heads up thier butts on this issue .

dontracy - 2005-07-21 1:13 PM I do see the humor in your argument.

Actually though, I think the pharma industry is anxious to get stem cell technology off the ground. Big, big bucks to be made there. <snip> And, I hope they do it without killing human beings in the embryonic stage of life.

Definitely...it may be the future of the industry (and I work in the biotech industry, so hooray for me!). As you probably know, though, the problem with adult stem cells is they haven't been demonstrated to pluripotent (that is, they haven't been demonstrated in vitro to differentiate into tissues of organs they didn't come from). And of course one of the arguments for embryonic stem cell research is that cell lines would be generated from embryos that would be otherwise discarded in the vitro fertilization process. Those embryos would otherwise be wasted.  Man...I really didn't think I'd wake up today and be arguing this topic.

dontracy - 2005-07-21 1:44 PM
But that is a false argument. The fact that there is a dilemma with what to do with embryos from IVF does not make the case that using them for stem cell research is ok.

(when do we get to Havana?)

Using them is better them flushing them down the toilet, especially when you consider the amazing good they could do for people with Parkinson's, MS and all manner of cancers.

And I'm in for Havana....

That's would be true if they were property and not human beings. Why not implant them in surrogate mothers, bring them to term, then harvest their organs?

Ah... Havana...

Here's a shot I did there...

(thank goodness for being an American with a Quaker wife and press credentials...)

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