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2008-08-12 8:42 AM

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Subject: Active Recovery vs. Cold Water Immersion
I found this article at Pez Cycling website interesting.

Cold Water Immersion for Exercise Recovery?

The author cites a study conducted by the Australian Institute of Sport that looks at cold water immersion and its effects on recovery in hot environments.

My takeaway from the article: a cool/cold shower is better than active recovery and suffices when an ice bath is not available. So after a hot race, a long soak in the lake or a cold shower will help me recover faster/better than a cool down jog or ride.


2008-08-12 8:49 AM
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Never done an ice bath.  The shower thing, sometimes.
2008-08-12 8:54 AM
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i use the ice bath after my long runs (greater then 15 miles). I felt it decreased the soreness and inflammation. But how the first few minutes are hard.

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2008-08-12 9:57 AM
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Subject: RE: Active Recovery vs. Cold Water Immersion

So let me get this straight .... they performed two equivalent TT tests and measured performance with a 60 minute break between them.  The only varible is that one group took an ice bath and the other group just sat around.  The CWI group did their second TT performance without a detriment in performance.

What does that say to me???  If you are doing back to back efforts (like in some cycling races where people race two different races in one day) that it is a good idea to have a cold shower or an ice bath between the events.  That's just about it ............. doesn't infer anything in my opinion other than that.  To extrapolate that across the boards and say that CWI versus active recovery in normal excercise routines makes any noticeable difference seems to be a stretch.  What it does indicate is in back to back efforts getting core temp down and cooling off is important for peak performance.

I'll keep that in mind next time I'm racing twice in one day with only a short break between.

2008-08-12 10:22 AM
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You make a valid obseration, I would hope to see more research in this field, with the subsequent testing done at a longer interval between efforts to test how the different recovery protocols affected performance. I'm especially curious as heat tends to affect me adversely.

I would however suggest that you reread the article and note that none of the test subjects "just sat around" between the TT efforts. Also, this testing did not address normal exercise, but effort in hot environments and was focused on the effect of rapid recovery of an athlete's core temperature and subsequent efforts. Granted, an athlete may never have to do two hard efforts separated by one hour of recovery in real world conditions, but the results of this testing should be helpful for determining suitable recovery methods in hot racing conditions.
2008-08-12 11:29 AM
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Agreed overall, and I think you get what I meant by "sitting around" in the rest period.

But it is hard to extrapolate how someone will recover and perform under normal circumstances between one day and the next.  It is really looking at how to effectively lower the participants core temps more than true "recovery" from the excercise and to me their inference is that this lowering of the core temp in hot conditions allows a participant to be able to perform at their normal levels.

Where this may have a more meaningful application would be in multi-day stage racing for cyclists, or even for someone doing the TTT tri where you ARE doing back to back racing on short rest.  But in most of those instances there is anywhere from 4 to 6 hours up to 24 hours pf true rest/recovery at which point everyone would be back to normal core temps.



2008-08-12 11:33 AM
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During the summer, we can't get cold water through our plumbing as the ground the pipes are in is too hot.
2008-08-12 12:17 PM
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I think the most meaningful application of this study as it pertains to members of this website would be it's real world use. The vast majority of members, myself included, participate in this sport as a 'hobby'. (sorry Bear) We have other priorities and chores that we try to shoehorn our training schedule around. While we won't necessarily have to complete multiple races in a single day or over consecutive days, we will have do deal with life and all that that entails.

If an BT athlete can recover quicker by CWI, then they will be able to attend to those other needs and still be able to function. You know, like mowing the grass, grocery shopping, and in my case, chasing after an active 2 year old son, after a race or hard training session. Things that tax the body's systems but still need to be accomplished in addition to training and racing.

Again, I think you are correct that it is difficult to extrapolate how someone will recover, hence my thought that I would like to see this study extended to see how CWI recovery can be used when the recovery interval is longer. I know the Chipotle-Slipstream team has been using tools like these to help the riders recover during stage races. What they learn can always be used by us, weekend athletes.




Edited by mrussell 2008-08-12 12:18 PM
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