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2009-07-09 1:22 PM

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http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/can-you-get-fit-in-six-minutes-a-week/?em

An interesting read.  Apparently it's similar to Crossfit, something that is discussed frequently in the Strength Training forum.

What are your thoughts?

I think I might try adding a (stationary) bike and swim workout using this approach once a week with an appropriate warmup first.  I've let my bike interval sessions on the stationary fall off over the past month, so perhaps this will serve up a similar benefit.



2009-07-09 1:38 PM
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2009-07-09 1:41 PM
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This is nothing new and it could be a good compliment for a trainig program for some athletes/distances under the right circumstances at the right time and for a limited period; however for 99.9% of the posters on this site addressing key components such as increasing your endurance and threshold power/pace will yield significant greater results in fitness gains...
2009-07-09 1:43 PM
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sounds like High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT)

2009-07-09 1:50 PM
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Yeah, I guess the thing that seems a little different about the approach is the shorter duration interval and absolute max intensity.  I've done swim sprints, and I've done bike intervals.  A 50 meter/yard swim sprint might already be down in the time range that this discusses.  But my bike intervals are usually in the 1-5 minute range, and probably not at absolute, all-out intensity.  Maybe I haven't been doing bike intervals properly, I don't know.  I did see some performance gains from them when I was doing them, though.

2009-07-09 2:06 PM
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JorgeM - 2009-07-09 11:41 AM This is nothing new and it could be a good compliment for a trainig program for some athletes/distances under the right circumstances at the right time and for a limited period; however for 99.9% of the posters on this site addressing key components such as increasing your endurance and threshold power/pace will yield significant greater results in fitness gains...

This would be the "ride lots" principle?  I know you posted a plan for building power on the bike in the off-season -- would you kindly repost the link to that?  I can't get any response from the search feature right now for whatever reason.

I guess I'm in a lazy mood the past couple days, looking for easy gains.



2009-07-09 2:32 PM
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Crossfit has been all the rage in the military, and it's led to some idiocy with regard to injuries, etc.

I'm no professional coach, but I've read enough things from enough big-time people that high intensity all the time isn't such a great thing.
2009-07-09 11:52 PM
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Besides the huge set-up for injury and burnout (will you really keep doing exercises that hurt that much, even if they are super short?), what about the mental training? Okay, so maybe somehow scientifically this thing does give you the benefit of a two-hour workout. But about, oh, ten minutes into your 2.4 mi IM swim, you are going to be saying, "Um done now!" Plus, if your body is ONLY trained to do high intensity workouts (I'm talking about ONLY doing that, not a 1-2x/wk deal), then will your bones, cartilage, other support structures be able to handle hours of pounding in a race? Also, will you be ABLE to go at a lower intensity that you need for even a 2 hour sprint?
2009-07-09 11:55 PM
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Oops, meant to add: what about form? Are they saying form no longer matters, just going all out is all that counts? I know very few people who maintain good form when going all out for any more than the first few intervals.
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