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2008-09-09 12:15 PM

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Subject: Roof Racks

I'm looking into purchasing a roof rack and need some advice. I've seen some options that allow you to mount your bike without removing the front wheel and those that require removal of the front wheel; what do you guys suggest?

 Also, Thule and Yakima seem to be some of the larger companies in the business, which would you go with?

 Anything else I should look for in a roof rack?



2008-09-09 12:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Roof Racks
I have a Yakima roof rack with two viper trays(fork mount). i've only owed a yakima rack.. so how it compared to thule i would know..

1. look for versatility... moving from one car to another.
2. longevity.. i had owned this rack for almost 5 years..
3. easy of install and removal..
4. overall cost.. yakima is good but you will pay (locks, fairing, trays, etc)


as for the type..
i use to ride mountain bikes... and having that front wheel off to put that bike on top on my car after a 5 to 6 hr trek through the woods... lifting and mounting were easier.

i have friends that have the full bike mount, they don't have any complaints..

it's all about what you want to deal with after a ride.. and the type of vehicle you drive...

hope this helps a little

momo

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2008-09-09 12:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Roof Racks
not sure of your situation, but I bought a roof rack / bike rack that is sold with my car.  I had both options (w/ or w/o front wheel removal) and went with the front wheel removal option b/c that was recommended for a road bike (versus a mtn bike).  no complaints on my end, but if I sell my car, I'll most likely have to include the roof rack with it - but I don't plan on selling my car anytime soon.
2008-09-09 12:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Roof Racks
I have rocky mounts trays on universal rails, auto parts store. they work great, lock and hold bicycles, both mountain and road securely. I like the front wheel off versions better, for a couple reasons. I don't like the bikes sticking 10 feet in the air in case i need to go through the bank drive through, etc. The locks on the fork mount versions are more secure. Thule and Yakima are basically the same, one uses square tubing the other round, but they both make attachments so they rack and easily be transitioned from vehicle to the next quit easily.
2008-09-09 1:16 PM
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I have a Thule fork-mount rack (Peloton model) and I'm quite happy with it so far. I prefer fork-mount because they seem/are more secure. I looked at Yakima racks, and the Thule one seemed like an easier mounting mechanism at a comparable price, so I went with Thule. I have Yakima crossbars because we have a Yakima ski rack that only fits on Yakima bars, but as someone else mentioned, the Thule rack fits on both kinds of rails (I think most Yakima ones do, too).

I'd say go to REI (or whatever store you have that sells bike racks) and take a look at the racks in person. It's kind of hard to tell what they're like from a small picture online, and all the better if you can get a sense for how they actually work.
2008-09-09 1:32 PM
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I have a yakima downtube-clamp model that I have used for years, nary a problem, have driven it coast-to-coast and it's never come loose, so security is not really the issue it is made out to be.

On problem is that it will only work with a metal-framed bike (because the clamp screws down around the downtube of the frame).

I also now have a yakima model that clamps over the bike wheel, to use on my carbon-framed bike. But I have not yet installed this tray as I have not had to haul my carbon bike anywhere.

Personally, I prefer not to have to take off the front wheel and store it somewhere. Have enough items in the van already between kids, luggage, tri equipments, etc.

Having said all of that my next rack will probably be hitch-mount -- makes access easier and doesn't give me a 15% hit to gas mileage.

 



2008-09-09 1:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Roof Racks
I have a Rocky Mounts tray on a Thule rack that I like.  Although Thule now makes a model that you don't have to screw down, instead it has a lever type thing that closes and locks the front fork to the rack and I wish I had that but won't buy it unless something happens to the Rocky Mount.  One word of caution for whatever you choose.  Find some way to alert yourself to a bike on top so you don't go into the garage.  I hide my opener so I have to think twice.  Some people put something in front of the garage door (I can't do that because it's the apartment building's garage). 
2008-09-09 1:48 PM
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My first question is why go with the roof rack rather than a hitch mount? I know some people are worried about getting rear ended, but you only have a small chance of that happening (as opposed to always having a big drop in mpg with a roof rack).

Yakima and Thule are the big gorillas, and their stuff is very good.  I started with Yak, so I stuck with it for compatability.

I generally use my hitchmount when I transport bikes, but I have used roof mounting as well. (I've also used a trunk mounted system, until the bike pedal broke one of my taillights.  Hey, with a name like gearboy, of course I've tried them all!).  If you drive an SUV, the height is a major PITA. On a "regular" sized vehicle, the height is not an issue.  I've used both wheel off and wheel on models.  (I even have an odd model Yak make in the past to clamp onto the crankarm, for bikes with oddly shaped down tubes).  For the road bike, I prefer the wheel off model.  It feels more secure, and I think it's a little more aerodynamic (but I have no proof of that).  For the mtn bike, I prefer the wheel on models, because after riding in the mud and dirt, I really don't want to (a) take off the wheel and get even dirtier, and (b) have to put the wheel somewhere in the vehicle to leave mud and dirt everywhere.

The other thing to remember about using a roof rack is that it is very easy to forget the bikes are up there, and crash into drive throughs, garages, low hanging  trees....

2008-09-09 4:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Roof Racks

Thanks for the feedback; all very helpful.

 Fortunately, I don't park in the garage, that's reserved for the wife's car and all my crap.

 I just got a hatchback and it seems like a  hitch mount may be somewhat cumbersome when making trips and trying to get things out of the back.  Plus the ability to mix and match components with Thule and Yakima would allow me to get a kayak attachment and a storage compartment for the top if needed.

 Thanks again!

2008-09-09 4:51 PM
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I just got a roof rack and so far I like it.  Yes, my gas mileage dropped from about 32 to 25 driving from Tucson to Moab (3 bikes up there).  Overall it was just easier than doing the trunk mount or hitch (which I didn't have, so would have to install).  We have managed to slip and the the fork scratched my roof (damn!).  All of mine are fork mount which is easier for weak people like myself to lift up on the roof (I have an Accord).

 

As for remembering they are there - I printed this off in bigger form and taped it to a piece of poster board and I hang it off my rearview mirror whenever I have a bike on the rack:

This sign can be bought from Nashbar to hang on your garage door; this only does me good at home.

2008-09-09 6:06 PM
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tluckey - 2008-09-09 5:49 PM

Thanks for the feedback; all very helpful.

 Fortunately, I don't park in the garage, that's reserved for the wife's car and all my crap amazing gear.

 I just got a hatchback and it seems like a  hitch mount may be somewhat cumbersome when making trips and trying to get things out of the back.  Plus the ability to mix and match components with Thule and Yakima would allow me to get a kayak attachment and a storage compartment for the top if needed.

 Thanks again!

First of all, I fixed your post. Second, I'd probably still go for the hitch mount.  I have one like this made by Yakima (Thule makes a similar product), that lets me swing the hitch away from the back of vehicle to access the rear (I have an Xterra, so similar access issues as the hatchback). I also have a roof mounted rack that I will use for kayaks (OK, I actually have 2 different roof mounts for kayaks depending on the configuration I am using and the boats I am taking that day...). But depending on your available funds (and whether you actually have the kayaks now or it is a later consideration), I would still lean to the hitch mount.



2008-09-09 8:18 PM
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I got a nice Thule roof rack off craigslist, locally. Then added a pair of Yakima King Cobra bike mounts. They allow me to keep the wheels on and secure with a cable lock but could add additional cables if you feel they are needed. I like not having to mount or unmount the wheels. Have you ever forgotten to secure the wheel could be problems. Also dorty Mt Bike just put it on top as is and no storeing dirty wheels in the car.
Yes they reduce gas mileage noticablely, 2-3 miles/gallon for my Camry.
2008-09-09 8:21 PM
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Don't fprget Ebay.  I have a company car that gets swapped out yearly so I wanted to save.  I went on ebay and found this rack with 2 racks for only $50.  I was skeptical but once they arrived wow did I get a deal.  Having two sets up proved valuable for road trips with racing friends.  Although it does seem like it moves slightly (observation from being behind others with this type of rack).  But keeping the wheel on is helpful for Brick workouts.  I usually throw the bike on top, lock it down and go...so my T2 time is more realistic.Yakima

 

 

2008-09-09 9:28 PM
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We've got a Yakima rack on both our Jeep and our Nissan.  We've got some old school bike racks where we take the front wheels off, and I'll tell you that it can get REALLY old taking the front wheels off all the time.  However, it's pretty easy to work with.

Also, I love the fact that we can interchange our bike mounts (takes about 5 minutes per mount) and our kayak mount (takes about 5 minutes to install) on both vehicles!!

I'd go with Yakima again in a heartbeat, but I'd buy the bike racks so that we wouldn't need to take off the front wheels.

-Joel

2008-09-09 10:30 PM
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Will the Thule and Yakima mounts work on a factory installed roof rack?  I drive a 2008 Honda CRV and went online today to look at getting bike racks and saw they were $400 a piece

2008-09-12 6:09 AM
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Yakima and Thule both make pieces(clips, trays, etc) for factory roof racks.. i don't know the cost...


2008-09-15 10:07 PM
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kmanus - 2008-09-09 4:51 PM

I just got a roof rack and so far I like it.  Yes, my gas mileage dropped from about 32 to 25 driving from Tucson to Moab (3 bikes up there).  Overall it was just easier than doing the trunk mount or hitch (which I didn't have, so would have to install).  We have managed to slip and the the fork scratched my roof (damn!).  All of mine are fork mount which is easier for weak people like myself to lift up on the roof (I have an Accord).

 

As for remembering they are there - I printed this off in bigger form and taped it to a piece of poster board and I hang it off my rearview mirror whenever I have a bike on the rack:

This sign can be bought from Nashbar to hang on your garage door; this only does me good at home.

Money very well spent. 

 

2008-09-15 10:34 PM
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kromanowski - 2008-09-09 11:30 PM

Will the Thule and Yakima mounts work on a factory installed roof rack?  I drive a 2008 Honda CRV and went online today to look at getting bike racks and saw they were $400 a piece

 I have a Thule roof rack that works great on my Honda Pilot roof rack.  Just go to the bike shop and tell them what car you drive.  Thule (or Yakima) can tell them which ones will work with your car.  Mine cost me $200 and it is great!  Mine does not require removal of the front wheel and it is very secure.  I drove 10 hours to a tri and had no problems at all.

2008-09-16 12:04 AM
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Subject: RE: Roof Racks
I used to have a Thule that clamped on the downtube.  2 parts broke off within a year of purchasing so I took it back to REI and got the kind that clamps onto the forks.  I like it much better - the bike feels more secure and the cables aren't getting messed with taking the bike on and off the car. 
2008-09-16 9:53 AM
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sax - 2008-09-09 8:21 PM

Don't fprget Ebay. I have a company car that gets swapped out yearly so I wanted to save. I went on ebay and found this rack with 2 racks for only $50. I was skeptical but once they arrived wow did I get a deal. Having two sets up proved valuable for road trips with racing friends. Although it does seem like it moves slightly (observation from being behind others with this type of rack). But keeping the wheel on is helpful for Brick workouts. I usually throw the bike on top, lock it down and go...so my T2 time is more realistic.Yakima



That rack can wreck thin walled aluminum bikes.

I'll never own another roof rack that doesn't require the front wheel to me removed. I owned a cannondale with a lefty and had a Thule version of the upright rack, all my friends said that if I saw how much the bike swayed while driving, I'd never use it. I find that the fork mount racks are far more secure. I now have mountain bikes with 20mm thru axle forks (similar to a motorcycle) and I still find the security of the fork mount rack worth the hassle of having to remove my wheel and use an adapter.


To the OP's questions,

Thule and Yakima are for the most part equals. Equal quality, cost, durability. Most people who have a preference of one over the other are just more used to one over the other. I started out working in a shop selling Thule, it's what I am used to and own so it is what I stick with. That being said, you can't go wrong with either. I've sold both and both are nice. I find Thule easier to install but that maybe due to being more familiar with their system.

Rocky mounts seem to be a nice way to save some money, but I don't have any experience with them.

I have installed Saris roof racks for customers and I wasn't overly impressed with them.
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