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2009-07-05 7:51 PM

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Subject: The progression of FUGLY......
OK....here is my road rash on day 3 .
I have kept a non-adherent dressing on it , changed daily and liberally slathered with antibiotic ointment. 
For those of you who have dealt with this , should I let it dry out now? Keep it covered?
It is still raw and oozing.......eeeww.........sorry for TMI.

 


2009-07-05 8:07 PM
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OWWWEEEEE!!! I would keep it covered during the day and open to air at night. You look pretty bruised!!!
2009-07-05 8:11 PM
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I think keep applying neosporin to it.  That's preeetty brutal.  But as I'm sure you'll hear several times tomorrow morning, nice leg shot...

2009-07-05 8:13 PM
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dry that sucker out!
2009-07-05 8:14 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
Clean and covered. Moist is actually better; once it dries, the crust inhibits healing and for deep incisions, those crusts have to often be debrided to give a moist healing bed again. 

Of course, if its' moist, you have to be really careful about not getting it dirty and infected, since bacteria love moisture. 
2009-07-05 8:16 PM
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the faster you can get it to scab over the better.. then you can start picking the scabs off Cool thats half the fun isnt it ? LOL


2009-07-05 8:18 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
bummer...that looks pretty raw.  I beleive there is a type of neosporin that has a local anesthetic in it...might numb it up a bit...good luck!
2009-07-05 8:24 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
EEWW.  Looks even more painful now!  I did a small version of that 2 weeks ago, and it's just now healing.  I did neosporin+pain,  then i tried airing it, then I went to tegaderm.  I'm curious to hear what works for you!
2009-07-05 8:33 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
I would keep it covered for now until it starts to look like new skin.  Then you can take the bandaging off.  For my arm (which was similar) I had non-stick bandages with lots of neosporin and a sock (with the toe cut off) to keep it covered and clean. 
2009-07-05 8:57 PM
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And I thought you were a nurse.... 

I would keep it covered during the day, and leave it to air at night.  Also, NO neosporin or other triple antibiotic.  A double abx is fine though.  Neomycin is a nasty, nasty drug, and a decent percentage of the population can develop an allergy to it with continuted exposure.  It would suck to need it one day and not be able to use it because you went all buck wild with neosporin.

The above info about triple abx is from my previous Dr.  This has also recently been confirmed here on BT in another thread by another very pharmacologically knowledgable person.
2009-07-05 9:00 PM
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Chaderbox - 2009-07-05 9:57 PM And I thought you were a nurse.... 

I would keep it covered during the day, and leave it to air at night.  Also, NO neosporin or other triple antibiotic.  A double abx is fine though.  Neomycin is a nasty, nasty drug, and a decent percentage of the population can develop an allergy to it with continuted exposure.  It would suck to need it one day and not be able to use it because you went all buck wild with neosporin.

The above info about triple abx is from my previous Dr.  This has also recently been confirmed here on BT in another thread by another very pharmacologically knowledgable person.


go with the person who knows how to spell and use "pharmacologically knowledgable." 


2009-07-05 9:03 PM
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Chaderbox - 2009-07-05 6:57 PM And I thought you were a nurse.... 

I would keep it covered during the day, and leave it to air at night.  Also, NO neosporin or other triple antibiotic.  A double abx is fine though.  Neomycin is a nasty, nasty drug, and a decent percentage of the population can develop an allergy to it with continuted exposure.  It would suck to need it one day and not be able to use it because you went all buck wild with neosporin.

The above info about triple abx is from my previous Dr.  This has also recently been confirmed here on BT in another thread by another very pharmacologically knowledgable person.


Makes a lot of sense......but when airing it at night, how do you avoid it sticking to the sheets as it heals?  Gross, I know....
2009-07-05 9:33 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......

I had a couple of those ugly things from sliding in shorts during a softball game.  Once it was THOROUGHLY cleaned out I had applied neosporin and let it dry out.  Drying it out was about the most painful thing I have ever experienced in my life.  From then on I kept it moist (and cleaned 2x daily) until a scab formed.  Then I let it dry.  It took a couple of weeks for me.  Good luck!

2009-07-05 9:44 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
Clean it EXTREMELY well and then cover with Moleskin. When the Moleskin falls off, it's healed.
2009-07-05 9:45 PM
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You need to get a large Tegaderm patch on it. These are available over the counter in most pharmacy's (at least in the US), but for large ones you need to go to a medical supply store.

It will heal much faster, and with less scarring.

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2009-07-05 9:48 PM
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yaqui - 2009-07-05 10:45 PM

You need to get a large Tegaderm patch on it. These are available over the counter in most pharmacy's (at least in the US), but for large ones you need to go to a medical supply store.

It will heal much faster, and with less scarring.

scott


Is Tegaderm simillar to Moleskin? Maybe I'm just using the "old school" name for it from my racing days back in the 80s.

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2009-07-05 9:50 PM
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tjtryon - 2009-07-05 6:48 PM

yaqui - 2009-07-05 10:45 PM

You need to get a large Tegaderm patch on it. These are available over the counter in most pharmacy's (at least in the US), but for large ones you need to go to a medical supply store.

It will heal much faster, and with less scarring.

scott


Is Tegaderm simillar to Moleskin? Maybe I'm just using the "old school" name for it from my racing days back in the 80s.


No. It's a medicated film that's breathable.



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2009-07-05 9:55 PM
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I would say to keep it covered for the time being.. cleanliness is the most important thing here. And I would definitely keep posting pictures

edit: I work with animals, not people.. just incase anyone assumed my SN was a job title instead of a nickname



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2009-07-05 10:05 PM
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velcromom - 2009-07-05 8:03 PM
Makes a lot of sense......but when airing it at night, how do you avoid it sticking to the sheets as it heals?  Gross, I know....


I do the opposite for that very reason. I keep mine covered and use Neosporin for a couple days but then I'm pretty anxious for them to scab up. So I let them air during the day as much as possible, and then clean/Neosporin and cover them at night.
2009-07-05 10:18 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
I use Tegaderm as well with antibiotic ointment on wound.
2009-07-05 11:43 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
Something I used for a burn to keep it moist was called adaptec. I believe it's made by Bandaid brand and it's in a black thin box. I used it under a bandage and what do you know...no scars!


2009-07-05 11:49 PM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
I would definitely use Tegaderm.  Works really well and there was no scarring with it.
2009-07-06 12:06 AM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
Try this link.  It is consistent with what the minor injury clinic had me do when I, for some unknown reason, decided to slide down the road on my hip and elbow during a big descent rather than stay on my bike.  I have a few scars still but much better than I expected.  Tegaderm is recommended.


http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/injuries/a/abrasions.htm 


Edited by JJohn 2009-07-06 12:07 AM
2009-07-06 12:12 AM
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Ok, upon further review, I would cover it while you're sleeping, but when you're home and just hanging out, I'd give it some air.  And just go to an adult part of your hospital and snag some tegaderms.  They actually aren't medicated to my knowledge though.
2009-07-06 12:21 AM
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Subject: RE: The progression of FUGLY......
Covered at all times!  Airing the wound promotes scabbing, which was fine when we lived in caves and scabs were the only thing keeping bacteria at bay.  But you'll end up with an awesome discolored scar on your hip as well, and if that scab peels off you're back to square one.  Airing it at night also gets your sheet fuzz stuck on the wound, again just asking for infection.  I've got 2 links for ya:
http://www.juniornationalcyclingassociation.org/blacksheep/roadrashabc.pdf and http://www.obra.org/wound_care.html

Tegaderm can stay on for 4 or 5 days as long as it hasn't peeled up, or you look at the wound and decide it needs to be cleaned again and changed.  As someone said earler, neomycin can develop an allergy - it's also in triple antibiotic ointment.  Bacitracin zinc is a little better (still an ingredient in 3x antibiotic) in terms of developing an allergy.  

It's tempting to let that road rash scab up bc then you don't have to think about it.  It's a lot more time consuming to go through all the trouble of actual wound care, but it's also safer, more effective, and is (believe it or not) quicker.  Here's the biggest problem with Tegaderm that I've seen with athletes - it tends to peel off with large movement.  Walking is fine, but running, sliding, sweating, etc seems to be a little tough.  You'll find you have to go through a tegaderm patch a day, or more, and it's not the cheapest stuff.  But you can bathe with it and go through all your day-to-day type stuff with no problem.
 
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