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 2009-07-11 3:52 PM |
Extreme Veteran  608   Iceland |  Subject: Am I insane???
12 weeks ago I started a 16 week Training plan for a HIM that I will "maybe" do. On this race you can sign up the day before and then do it so I thought I would just start training, see how it goes and then decide nearer to the date. Of course the "maybe doing it" thought got pushed further and further back as training progressed but today made me started questioning it all over again. Today was the first time I managed to bike 90km straight and it was painful! It was no fun, I was in pain a lot during the last 20K and all I kept thinking was that I must be insance for even trying to do this distance. I know that doing HIM and IM involves a lot of mental saneness and positive talking but how I can do that if I don´t believe in myself that I can actually do it? Biking 90K was hard enough but running a whole Half-Marathon afterwards. That is actually a long long way!!! And the worst part is that all around me there are people that just decided last week that they might even participate as well without having trained much for it... they just go out for a training session and bike it as it is no big deal whereas I struggle even though I train.... Is it normal to feel this way? Or maybe I am insane and should wait with doing the distance....
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| 2009-07-11 4:32 PM in reply to: #2278330 |
| 8 | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? Hi, The first thing I would ask myself is why did the bike hurt as much as it did? Were your legs tired? Have you been fitted for your bike properly? Do you enjoy just going out for a long bike ride? I'm doing my first half next week in Racine. Yes, you do need a positive attitiude(and a screw loose) I've been lucky to have an injury free 12 week plan. I've enjoyed the training. Ask yourself if you're prepared to go thru if its not FUN. I wish you luck. |
| 2009-07-12 7:06 AM in reply to: #2278330 |
Pro 4828  The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? Ummm....I have been training for my first HIM since November. I ride about a 100 miles a week. I run about 25 miles a week. My long run IS a half mary...every week. And I am worrried about Timberman. Could you do it? Probably.........but the question is HOW do you want to do it......... |
| 2009-07-12 7:14 AM in reply to: #2278330 |
Champion 6046  New York, NY | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? I did my first HIM a few weeks ago. Biking is my strong leg. I was undertrained on the run (and knew it going in) which made it painful. I started training for it specifically in February. I am now training for Timberman - and doing ALL the runs - and today am headed out on a 68 mile bike with 4400 feet of climbing. You could probably do it, if your only goal is to just finish but the risk of DNF is high and if you were in pain off the bike chances are you will be walking much of the run. |
| 2009-07-12 7:17 AM in reply to: #2278330 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? ^^^^ Gee Cat...our avatars look kind of the same!!! Wonder why? |
| 2009-07-12 8:22 AM in reply to: #2278330 |
Champion 7558 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? Maybe, but signing up for a HIM is only half as insane as signing up for an IM What specifically hurts at the end of the ride, and what have your long rides been leading up to this? I wondered how I'd do a run after the ride after several training rides, but on race day, it all felt great. (Race-day adrenaline will overcome some of the anxiety and pain. ) I know in other posts, riding in Iceland involves a lot of wind, hills, wind, and maybe some more wind. Is that where the race is? Can you come up with a strategy to minimize the effects of wind for the race? You've still got 4 weeks. Don't pull the plug yet, but if you get to the week of the race and you don't think it'd be fun to do the HIM, that's the time to bail out. Edited to add: Don't discount the taper. During my IM training, I struggled with some of the rides because I was starting fatigued. A good week of taper will really leave you fresh enough to take on the HIM. Edited by McFuzz 2009-07-12 8:23 AM |
| 2009-07-12 10:54 AM in reply to: #2278330 |
Extreme Veteran 608 Iceland | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? Thanks so far for all your answers. Maybe riding long is like giving birth, you swear you never do this again right after but the pain is forgotten day after. I felt completely fine last night and had no problems running 2 hours today...so maybe all is not that bad. Yesterday during the ride what hurted most was my shoulders and neck, followed by my thighs. It hurted most when I stopped pedaling for a few seconds to stretch out. I was also not in pain after just during. I ran 1K right after the ride and that was no problem. I have been riding about 3000km already this year and I really thought my legs would be stronger by now especially as biking is usually my strong leg of the TRIs. I guess it just caught me off guard. One big problem is that I have never gotten my bike fitted as this is not possible here in this country. Nobody does it. We have fitted it by some website but I am still not 100% comfortable and I think the bike is just not right for me. It was bought on ebay for 400$ about 3 years ago. A new bike is on the plan for the future but it will be a reward for weight-loss so it has to wait
@COSTRI, I actually don't enjoy going out for long rides. Not in this country! But I guess I have to overcome that. Good luck with your first HIM @AQUAGIRL, its not that I have not done anything this year before I started the training plan 12 weeks ago so I am not completely unprepared. @TRITROY, thanks for your input. @MCFUZZ, thanks
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| 2009-07-12 11:31 AM in reply to: #2278330 |
Elite 5316 Alturas, California | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? Your training is actually looking pretty good for a HIM. You have done a 56 mile bike, a 10 mile run and can swim the distance. Some of us were not born with God given abilities to improve really fast in any of these sports. Some of us also do not have any history of many years of training in our earlier years. It sounds like you are one of us normal folks just picking up Tri's and well ya it is work. I trained 1 year for my first HIM and considered myself adequately trained to complete it. And I did complete it, yay. I could not have just jumped on a 12 week program and banged it out. The good news is that my 2nd HIM, 8 months later was way better and an hour faster (in the rain). There will come a time when a 56 mile bike will be no big deal. However, your first 56 mile bike should be a big deal, it is far. You biked 300+ miles last month, so you are well on your way to increasing your distance. If you have not gotten a bike fit, now is as good a time as any. However, some of riding farther on the bike just comes from riding farther on the bike. The body's adaptation to bike riding takes at minimum 3 years to really get there and after that it is time to start really buckling down to improve speed. Triathlon is not really about how fast the guy next to you is, how easy it is for them to pick up the skills or the speed. It is about how you personally can improve your own skills and your own fitness and speed. It will be only you at the finish line and you will know that you have done the work that it took to get there. I imagine that the HIM at this point will take you 7-8 hours. As you train more you can probably bring that down. It looks like your run is weaker than your bike, and it comes last.... Stick with the plan, don't skip workouts and you will probably be ok. One last thing is that you need to learn how to get in enough calories. You will probably need 1200 on the bike and 500 on the run. Read up and experiment with how you are going to accomplish this. (I am assuming you will swim 50 minutes, bike 3:30-4 hours and run 2:30-3 hours given your current training). As the race gets closer make sure you can meet the cut-off times for each of the events. |
| 2009-07-12 11:39 AM in reply to: #2279153 |
Extreme Veteran 608 Iceland | Subject: RE: Am I insane??? Baowolf - 2009-07-12 4:31 PM Your training is actually looking pretty good for a HIM. You have done a 56 mile bike, a 10 mile run and can swim the distance. Some of us were not born with God given abilities to improve really fast in any of these sports. Some of us also do not have any history of many years of training in our earlier years. It sounds like you are one of us normal folks just picking up Tri's and well ya it is work. I trained 1 year for my first HIM and considered myself adequately trained to complete it. And I did complete it, yay. I could not have just jumped on a 12 week program and banged it out. The good news is that my 2nd HIM, 8 months later was way better and an hour faster (in the rain). There will come a time when a 56 mile bike will be no big deal. However, your first 56 mile bike should be a big deal, it is far. You biked 300+ miles last month, so you are well on your way to increasing your distance. If you have not gotten a bike fit, now is as good a time as any. However, some of riding farther on the bike just comes from riding farther on the bike. The body's adaptation to bike riding takes at minimum 3 years to really get there and after that it is time to start really buckling down to improve speed. Triathlon is not really about how fast the guy next to you is, how easy it is for them to pick up the skills or the speed. It is about how you personally can improve your own skills and your own fitness and speed. It will be only you at the finish line and you will know that you have done the work that it took to get there. I imagine that the HIM at this point will take you 7-8 hours. As you train more you can probably bring that down. It looks like your run is weaker than your bike, and it comes last.... Stick with the plan, don't skip workouts and you will probably be ok. One last thing is that you need to learn how to get in enough calories. You will probably need 1200 on the bike and 500 on the run. Read up and experiment with how you are going to accomplish this. (I am assuming you will swim 50 minutes, bike 3:30-4 hours and run 2:30-3 hours given your current training). As the race gets closer make sure you can meet the cut-off times for each of the events. Thanks Baowolf. I think you hit right on the spot with many things you said. This is my 4th seasons of Triathlons so I am not completely new to the sport. I was a runner before and have been running for 10 years now. One biggest aspect is that I am still overweight so I am not running as much as I would do if I would be less weight as it is tough on my body. I had a hip injury for 1,5 years and it only got better in february this year so I have slowly built up the distance to avoid injury. I could run longer and more at this point but I don´t to prevent the hip injury coming back. As I said unfortunately it is not possible to get a bike fit in this country as there is noone that does it. Thanks for reminding me that it is not about others and how fast they can do things. I usually get pretty upset when I see people just accomplishing things with less or no training at all that I work hard for to accomplish. It just makes me mad Nutrition is still something I am working on. I have to physically force myself to drink and eat, especially on the bike as I am never hungry. But I am getting better and hopefully it will work out somehow. No cut-off times in this race so that is good. It will be a very small one as Triathlon is not that big yet in this country. If there are 20 participants it will be big
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I really wish there would be somone.|
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