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2009-08-05 12:20 PM

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Subject: Foot strike and running questions
I had to cut my running in half last month (it was already low before that) because I was having mild plantar issues.  I naturally find myself running on my toes and on the outside of my foot.  This is what results in the fastest times for me.  Today I forced myself to run what I believe was a mid foot strike, but my speed is much slower.  I did have less tightness in my calves at the end.  My question is should I work on adjusting my running technique and hopefully build back up the speed or run the way my body naturally goes too?  I am only guessing the PF issues came from running more on my toes as that is what I have mostly read online.  Thoughts, comments, questions?


2009-08-05 2:08 PM
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So, let me get this straight.  You naturally run long-distances on the balls of your feet without touching your heel to the ground?  (I ask because most people on this forum seem to worry about heel striking).  Anyway, my thought is running on the balls of your feet works well for running at faster speeds like if you were a sprinter or a middle-distance runner.  It also increases the amount of work from your lower-legs (calves, shins, achilles and plantar tendons, etc) so you risk a muscle tear or pulling a tendon if you go too far while running on your forefeet.



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2009-08-05 2:20 PM
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Yes, I run up to 4.5 miles without my heels touching the ground.  It definitely causes more soreness in my lower legs, but I just run extremely slow with any other foot strike.  All my races are sprint distance tri's and 5k's, but I would like to work up to 10k's and Olympic ditance tri's, but not risk more serious injuries.
2009-08-05 4:06 PM
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That's cool.  Its actually refreshing to hear someone running this way and there is not anyhting "wrong" with it if its working for you.   In my previous post I wasn't necessarilly suggesting that you HAVE to change from forefoot.  I just said that it can cause problems in the lower legs for some runners.  So, you might not need to change if its natural for you.   Your soreness could be from something else, too, so be carefull about assuming you need to change your stride. 

In fact, I first suggest that you check if your foot impact point is close to your center of gravity with your natural stride before attempting to change it.  If you are landing close to underneath your body now, there are probably other issues at play.

2009-08-05 4:20 PM
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Do you stretch after every run?
2009-08-05 4:24 PM
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I'm coming at it from the opposite direction.  I was a heel-striker and have been making the transition to more of a mid-to-fore foot strike over the past ten months.  I'd say I've ended up with a mid-foot strike, as I can see all of my footprint in the dirt when I retrace my steps, but I have the sensation of coming down more towards the balls of my feet.  I'm no faster or slower than before (maybe marginally faster from conditioning), and I have to be a fanatic about stretching my calf muscles.  Achilles tendonitis is more of a concern now, as well.  But no PF, and no knee problems, which drove me to make the change. 

So, from my perspective, when it comes to running you can pick your poison -- choose which part of your anatomy takes the impact and strain.



2009-08-05 5:10 PM
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I like a mid foot strike...land on the outside ball of the foot then a fraction of a second later light heel touch down. It would take tensing up the calf muscles to keep to heel from touching that would wear me out and have calf issues.

I would concentrate on what your knee's, hips and shoulder alignment is more than your foot landing. If your body position is good your foot will land under your center of gravity which is what you really want for injury prevention. Who knows about the PF may not be related to your landing. 

2009-08-05 7:11 PM
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SevenZulu - 2009-08-05 4:24 PM

I'm coming at it from the opposite direction.  I was a heel-striker and have been making the transition to more of a mid-to-fore foot strike over the past ten months.  I'd say I've ended up with a mid-foot strike, as I can see all of my footprint in the dirt when I retrace my steps, but I have the sensation of coming down more towards the balls of my feet.  I'm no faster or slower than before (maybe marginally faster from conditioning), and I have to be a fanatic about stretching my calf muscles.  Achilles tendonitis is more of a concern now, as well.  But no PF, and no knee problems, which drove me to make the change. 

So, from my perspective, when it comes to running you can pick your poison -- choose which part of your anatomy takes the impact and strain.

X2. I am in the same boat and I started developing tightness/pain in my Achilles tendon recently as well. I have all but shut down my running until my first race this sunday. Then I am planning on really letting it heal, but I FEEL much quicker with a midfoot strike than the pre ious heel strike.
2009-08-05 7:39 PM
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I do not understand why there is so much conversation about this.  Bodies are different, legs have different lengths and so many other things biomechanically different from one person to the next.  I think if most people would just run enough, get their minds out of the way and let the body adapt, things will generally be alright.  Most running coaches do not delve into this area too much, that is trying to change a person's natural gait.  I certainly would not self diagnose and try to change something like this.  The only way I would is if I were advised by a very knowledgable running coach.  As for plantars, I think that typically boils down to insoles with adequate arch support - been there.
2009-08-05 7:47 PM
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How old are you?  I'm sorry to tell you, but somewhere between 26 and 36 years of age you begin to get "old".  In your 40's? you're definitely getting old.  In your early 20's one can do anything, such as lace up your shoes, walk out the door and run 10 miles.  I did.  Maybe a little sore the next day, but fine the day after that.  In your 40's and beyond, THE GOAL is running, conditioning, improving, WITHOUT INJURY.  The way to do this is: proper stretching, warm up, workout (no more than 10% increased over last month), cool down, stretch some more, ice the muscles, ibuprophen, vitamins, fish oil supplements, drink lots of water, get lots of sleep, take a day off for recovery once or twice a week.

If you're in your 30's start with a very light warm-up (slow jog 2 - 3 minutes) then "assume the position" and for 2 minutes do the classic "runners stretch" (stand like you're trying to push down a utility pole) which stretches your calf muscles.  Personally I've found dynamic stretching (slowly moving to full extension and back, repeat) is better than static stretching.  Definitely don't "bounce" stretch.  Stretching your calf muscles is 100% the best thing to prevent plantar fasciiatis -- ask any doctor.  Fore foot, mid-foot, heel striker doesn't matter.  Stretch.

I know all of this from personal experience.  Much of it learned the hard way.  Take heed and spare yourself the pain and long time for recovery.  Don't believe me, ask any old marathoner you know.

Good luck.

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2009-08-06 7:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Foot strike and running questions
I am 35 quickly approaching 36.  I know I should definitely stretch a lot more than I do and my wife and I just recently purchased the Stick.  That thing is the best at helping loosen my calves.  I know for my race this weeekend I will run on my toes since I know it is much faster than me.  I currently run with Saucony Grid Sinister shoes or Salomon XA Pro 3D Ultra's.  Are there shoes made more for toe strikers?


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