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2009-08-12 1:10 PM

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Subject: Car Chases and ending them

It seems like they are on the rise or at least in the news more. I just heard about a mother who is in critical condition and does not know all of her children have perished in an accident caused by a driver who refused to stop for the police. 

Why don't they use something like a 50 caliber sniper rifle from a helicopter or another vehicle to shoot through the engine block and end it as soon as the equipment and personnel can get involved.

I'm sure there is a reason but for the life of me I don't understand or can't think of what the reason that they don't do this.

Does anyone know?



2009-08-12 1:14 PM
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2009-08-12 1:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Car Chases and ending them
Agreed. We were watching one on TV yesterday and the guy was going about 30 and running red lights and the cops just slowly followed behind him. I'm sure it's procedure, but I just don't get it.
2009-08-12 1:35 PM
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I've always thought that a chopper with a big magnet to simply pick the car up, would be really cool.  ;-)  Just stay away from overpasses. 
2009-08-12 2:08 PM
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shot to the engine block on a moving vehicle from a moving helicopter is a tough one...methinks you've been watching too much black hawk down.  now, shooting out tires from a chase vehicle with a shotgun is easier...but it is the difficulty of having the criminal in an open space where there is 0% chance of a stray shotgun pellet hitting innocents.  i'm not generally for letting criminals go, but it is hard to justify crashing them in the beginning...because you don't know if they are actually a threat to others yet.
2009-08-12 2:11 PM
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2009-08-12 2:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Car Chases and ending them
OnStar can shut down cars that have their system.  Only helps if the vehicle is a Chevy or GM (and has OnStar)

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/22/onstar-debuts-remote-ignition-block-to-shut-down-stolen-vehicles/
2009-08-12 2:40 PM
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TriRSquared - 2009-08-12 2:37 PM

OnStar can shut down cars that have their system.  Only helps if the vehicle is a Chevy or GM (and has OnStar)

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/22/onstar-debuts-remote-ignition-block-to-shut-down-stolen-vehicles/




Aren't Chevy and GM cars effective enough shutting down on their own?

2009-08-12 3:18 PM
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a lot of times around here we have our WSP airplane flying around. Highspeed pursuit, car does not pull over after a while, they just keep the plane on it, let the officers on the ground know what is going on, and either wait for the car to stop and arrest they driver, or wait for it to enter an unpopulated area and resume the chase. Granted the budget for the pilots was just cut but for the most part it has worked well.

High Speed/reckless driving chases are stupid though. Anyone ever see fast and the furious 2 (horrible movie IMO but something my friends used to like to watchin college when drunk) and the special gun the use in the beginning to short out his entire electrical system? That would be a sweet addition to police cars if they actually had one that worked for the majority of vehicles.
2009-08-12 3:23 PM
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crazyyella - 2009-08-12 3:08 PM shot to the engine block on a moving vehicle from a moving helicopter is a tough one...methinks you've been watching too much black hawk down.  now, shooting out tires from a chase vehicle with a shotgun is easier...but it is the difficulty of having the criminal in an open space where there is 0% chance of a stray shotgun pellet hitting innocents.  i'm not generally for letting criminals go, but it is hard to justify crashing them in the beginning...because you don't know if they are actually a threat to others yet.


Helicopter shots are all part of sniper school but you are right.. they are difficult. 
2009-08-12 3:28 PM
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.50 caliber round fired from a helicopter at a moving target in a populated area... what could possibly go wrong???

Laughing



2009-08-12 4:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Car Chases and ending them
Or just do what a new Chicago Police Department Policy allows

Policy Would Allow Cops To Shoot At Fleeing Cars


http://cbs2chicago.com/local/police.deadly.force.2.1105766.html


Granted it must be a felony for them to be allowed to shoot at the car


Edited by mattb1 2009-08-12 4:23 PM
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Pector55 - 2009-08-12 4:23 PM
crazyyella - 2009-08-12 3:08 PM shot to the engine block on a moving vehicle from a moving helicopter is a tough one...methinks you've been watching too much black hawk down.  now, shooting out tires from a chase vehicle with a shotgun is easier...but it is the difficulty of having the criminal in an open space where there is 0% chance of a stray shotgun pellet hitting innocents.  i'm not generally for letting criminals go, but it is hard to justify crashing them in the beginning...because you don't know if they are actually a threat to others yet.


Helicopter shots are all part of sniper school but you are right.. they are difficult. 


Sarah Palin could do it.......
2009-08-12 6:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Car Chases and ending them
JustTriDave - 2009-08-12 5:22 PM
Pector55 - 2009-08-12 4:23 PM
crazyyella - 2009-08-12 3:08 PM shot to the engine block on a moving vehicle from a moving helicopter is a tough one...methinks you've been watching too much black hawk down.  now, shooting out tires from a chase vehicle with a shotgun is easier...but it is the difficulty of having the criminal in an open space where there is 0% chance of a stray shotgun pellet hitting innocents.  i'm not generally for letting criminals go, but it is hard to justify crashing them in the beginning...because you don't know if they are actually a threat to others yet.


Helicopter shots are all part of sniper school but you are right.. they are difficult. 


Sarah Palin Chuck Norris could do it.......


Fixed it for you.  But Chuck Norris would just show up and the engine would give up, whimpering.
2009-08-12 6:07 PM
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gearboy - 2009-08-12 7:00 PM
JustTriDave - 2009-08-12 5:22 PM
Pector55 - 2009-08-12 4:23 PM
crazyyella - 2009-08-12 3:08 PM shot to the engine block on a moving vehicle from a moving helicopter is a tough one...methinks you've been watching too much black hawk down.  now, shooting out tires from a chase vehicle with a shotgun is easier...but it is the difficulty of having the criminal in an open space where there is 0% chance of a stray shotgun pellet hitting innocents.  i'm not generally for letting criminals go, but it is hard to justify crashing them in the beginning...because you don't know if they are actually a threat to others yet.


Helicopter shots are all part of sniper school but you are right.. they are difficult. 


Sarah Palin Chuck Norris could do it.......


Fixed it for you.  But Chuck Norris would just show up and the engine would give up, whimpering.


Or being that it was Chuck Norris, he'd probably take a flying leap and kick the windsheild out  hitting and knocking the driver out at the same time and land back on his feet while the car ran into a tree and exploded!
2009-08-12 6:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Car Chases and ending them
kiwi4j - 2009-08-12 7:07 PM
gearboy - 2009-08-12 7:00 PM
JustTriDave - 2009-08-12 5:22 PM
Pector55 - 2009-08-12 4:23 PM
crazyyella - 2009-08-12 3:08 PM shot to the engine block on a moving vehicle from a moving helicopter is a tough one...methinks you've been watching too much black hawk down.  now, shooting out tires from a chase vehicle with a shotgun is easier...but it is the difficulty of having the criminal in an open space where there is 0% chance of a stray shotgun pellet hitting innocents.  i'm not generally for letting criminals go, but it is hard to justify crashing them in the beginning...because you don't know if they are actually a threat to others yet.


Helicopter shots are all part of sniper school but you are right.. they are difficult. 


Sarah Palin Chuck Norris could do it.......


Fixed it for you.  But Chuck Norris would just show up and the engine would give up, whimpering.


Or being that it was Chuck Norris, he'd probably take a flying leap and kick the windsheild out  hitting and knocking the driver out at the same time and land back on his feet while the car ran into a tree and exploded!


Well done, sir! 


2009-08-12 6:23 PM
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Edited by Spokes 2009-08-12 6:24 PM
2009-08-12 8:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Car Chases and ending them

It just seems to me with all of the technology, weaponry and talented marksmen on every major police department there should be some way to end them early without putting so many people at risk.

I still like the slug into the engine block though. Hey it worked on Black Hawk Down.

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