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2009-09-21 8:14 AM |
Expert 793![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() South Florida | Subject: What could happen?I watched the video of "The Crawl" that was posted the other day and got to wondering- what could be the consequences of pushing yourself beyond the limit of endurance? I see a lot of race reviews where people have pushed themselves to continue even though their bodies were begging to quit. Other than heatstroke or dehydration, are there long term consequences of pushing yourself that hard? I bonked once on the bike and it was a very strange and unpleasant experience, but I don't think I did any permanent damage. |
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2009-09-21 8:26 AM in reply to: #2417166 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The Road Back | Subject: RE: What could happen?One consequence in a USAT race is that you could be disqualified: Article VI 6.1 Permitted Conduct. A participant must run or walk the entire portion of the run course. Except for reasons of safety and when no advantage is gained, all runners shall follow and remain within the prescribed course. A participant who gains forward progress by crawling or otherwise violates this Section shall be disqualified. |
2009-09-21 8:30 AM in reply to: #2417166 |
Pro 6767![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: What could happen?If your sugars are too low, you could have a seizure. You could also experience some brain damage from the heatstroke or hypoglycemia. I can't think of a race where I would think it is worth it. Of course, I am BOP, so it may be different for those who are in the very front. |
2009-09-21 8:40 AM in reply to: #2417166 |
Elite 3088![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Austin, TX | Subject: RE: What could happen?Chris Legh collapsed just 50m short of the finish in Hawaii in 1997. He almost died and ended up having large sections of his intestines removed, if I remember right. |
2009-09-21 11:02 AM in reply to: #2417166 |
Champion 7558![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: What could happen?Potentially...the bonk you describe is scary and usually temporary, but what if you fall over and end up with a concussion (even with a helmet) or broken bones? "Pushing through" muscle cramps can result in muscle tears, strains, tendon issues, etc. Your endocrine(?) system is fairly robust, but you can seriously throw internal organs out-of-whack by pushing too hard for too long (kidney and/or liver damage as your body tries to deal with muscle waste). I'm not a doctor, but go poke around some of the ultramarathon and/or adventure racing sites and you'll see examples where people pushed too far. |
2009-09-21 1:01 PM in reply to: #2417596 |
Master 2404![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Redlands, CA | Subject: RE: What could happen?I think there could be alot of consequences, I still urinate more than the average person due to heat cramps 10 years ago. You just have to ask what severity you are at; the whole 'is it worth it' concept is stupid. There are different levels of pain in an IM and its really hard to judge how bad off you are. It could just be a headache or lead to worse things. I've had heat cramps in the past and it hit me like a rock, within a 5 minute span. Edited by furiousferret 2009-09-21 1:03 PM |
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2009-09-21 1:58 PM in reply to: #2417194 |
Pro 5169![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Burbs | Subject: RE: What could happen?the bear - 2009-09-21 9:26 AM One consequence in a USAT race is that you could be disqualified: Article VI 6.1 Permitted Conduct. A participant must run or walk the entire portion of the run course. Except for reasons of safety and when no advantage is gained, all runners shall follow and remain within the prescribed course. A participant who gains forward progress by crawling or otherwise violates this Section shall be disqualified. correct me if I'm wrong, bear, but I believe that for WTC "crawling" IS permitted... I think that in the athlete's guide for Rhode Island (HIM) it stated that a person could "run, walk, or crawl" |
2009-09-21 2:11 PM in reply to: #2418121 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The Road Back | Subject: RE: What could happen?trishie - 2009-09-21 1:58 PM the bear - 2009-09-21 9:26 AM One consequence in a USAT race is that you could be disqualified: Article VI 6.1 Permitted Conduct. A participant must run or walk the entire portion of the run course. Except for reasons of safety and when no advantage is gained, all runners shall follow and remain within the prescribed course. A participant who gains forward progress by crawling or otherwise violates this Section shall be disqualified. correct me if I'm wrong, bear, but I believe that for WTC "crawling" IS permitted... I think that in the athlete's guide for Rhode Island (HIM) it stated that a person could "run, walk, or crawl" Also note that I said "USAT race." Branded IM races have lots of rules that supercede the USAT's. |
2009-09-22 4:50 AM in reply to: #2417166 |
Master 2665![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The Whites, New Hampshire | Subject: RE: What could happen?
Pushing too hard often leads to vomiting, which can cause dehydration, hyponatremia, and if really bad, scarring from the acidic stomach contents. Do it often enough, and you get all sorts of mouth and throat problems. I "knew" (knew of) an ultra runner who thought running until he puked meant he was tough, until he had to essentially be treated for bulimia symptoms with ulcers, sores, scarring, and one seriously tender digestive system. Not so tough to be eating the blandest, softest food you can find for the rest of your life. Also, as pointed out, pushing too hard can lead to a loss of muscular control and/or a loss of consciousness. You may fall, and you may take out others with you. A fall from standing height (say, while running) can be fatal or seriously damaging to your head, torso or other body parts. We all know what a fall while riding can do to us and the pace line we take out. You could drown. You could tumble over an embankment or down a slope or into traffic. I dunno, doesn't sound like fun to me. Then again, I see my limits as a cool frontier. I never want to find out where they are so that I can always be chasing them. Plus, I don't particularly want to experience all that stuff! |
2009-09-22 6:53 AM in reply to: #2417166 |
Master 2946![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Centennial, CO | Subject: RE: What could happen?First, it depends on the race. If you are doing a sprint or Oly, you are talking about 1-3 hours of activity. It is pretty hard to really bonk unless you are really under nourished. Yes, you can have heat stroke or heat cramps, but even that is not super common. As for a HIM or IM, it is more likely. Also , to push yourself to that extreme is very hard. Pushing through pain vs pushing through an injury are two diferent things. Pushing through pain is not necessarilly bad, pushing through an injury can lead to permanent issues. You need to know your body and learn to understand what it is telling you. Example - last month I ran a 1/2 mary. At mile 10, my left quad starting locking up. I could tell it was a cramp and not a tear. So I stretched, walked, pushed through it till it loosened up and then finished running the last mile. I was sore for a couple of days but by the next weekend, I was able to run again. If it had been a tear, I could have been risking months off or worse. Learn to listen to your body. As you get better at this sport, you will know when your body can't continue. |
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