Cheney speaks

Maybe, but I just think it's more likely a bit more innocent. If you read the article, he says that having someone who got the facts straight was important and I agree. If there was just a press release that said "VP just shot some dude. Details at nine," that would be way worse than a late, but accurate and complete report. I just think that sometimes, even public figures are allowed to be humans with actual feelings and responses that have nothing to do with the nation. And on rare occasions,  even Dick Cheney can have feelings other than greed, vengeance, bloodlust, etc.

I can't believe I just defended Dick Cheney. I feel dirty.

Your reward is this picture, personally autographed by the veep himself.

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I like guns just fine. I just don't like Dick Cheney.

And by the way, I just looked at a timeline of the events and that Armstrong lady started calling reporters first thing the next morning, so I think the 21 hours thing is a bit of a misnomer.

How's this for feeling dirty.... someone that I was in a political conversation with the other day actually out and out called me a Republican (we were discussing economics, though). Now this.

Can't.... get... clean.... I scrub and scrub, but the filth won't come off....

The caption reads:  "Everyone duck!"

Yeah, but you have to admit that you'd react a little differently to shooting a protected species vs. your good friend. Just put yourself in his shoes for one second and really think about how you'd feel if you had just potentially endangered your friends life. Sometimes 'what's proper' flies out the window and you just attend to what you feel is most important. I don't know...

I guess I've just been in a situation that isn't really the same, but the emotions were very similar. I was working at a lake when a boat went down and a dude was drowning. I called 911 (couldn't get a hold of rangers) and went to try and save him. Well, I forgot to lock the office up and left a lot of money unattended. Afterward, I caught hell for not locking the office. It just seemed so stupid when compared to this guy's life (he died, I couldn't find him, but we didn't get robbed either). Likewise, I can see why he thinks that telling the media was insignificant next to tending to his friend.

Yeah, it would have been better had he told the media promptly, but he didn't. So big f-ing deal. That's my take.

The real issue here for the media is that this administration is one of the most secretive, blatantly manipulitive and arrogant administrations in recent memory. There is a lot of pent up frustration and not a little fear concerning these "nea-cons" that is typified with this incident. It's not really that the press was not notified, but that cheney admitedly held on to the information and dictated to whom it would be released. This was not an instance of cheney being engrossed with his friend, but his active machinations about the release of said info and to whom.

Completely agree with that. I just don't think that this is the particular issue with which it's best for everyone to freak out and make that point with, since really, it has nothing to do with people not involved in it. It doesn't affect me or you if some old Republican gets shot. Let's pick an example of national political significance to pin him to the wall.

Some people need to get a life instead of worrying about how long it took the media to learn about what happened. It was a personal matter and not affecting anyone except the parties involved. Firnd something else to ***** about besides this administration.

And just when we thought we had gotten Richard Nixon out of the way.  Maybe this Armstrong babe is related to Rosemary Woods?

KSlostStar - 2006-02-15 7:43 PM

kimj81 - 2006-02-15 3:39 PM p>I can't believe I just defended Dick Cheney. I feel dirty.

 

That makes ME feel dirty!

Oof, me, too. Apparently, Cup o' Joe can do that to good upstanding liberals--a few weeks ago I found myself posting to a thread about a POSITIVE BUSH ADMINISTRATION ENVIRONMENTAL/PUBLIC HEALTH INITIATIVE.

I blame my innate contrariness. It's not as if there's more than one.

And yes, I too got out the brillo pad and exfoliating scrub. Euw.

Btw, I think this is the wrong thing to go after Cheney for; makes people look frivolous. Yeah it's emblematic of how they deal with the media and the public's right to know, but c'mon, he does it on so many more issues of substance--pick your battles.

Hmmm, it's probably all a plot by Karl Rove to make liberals look frivolous in the eyes of the rest of the county. NOW I get it.... whew.

Why isn't it important to be concerned about how the administration handles its affairs? This wouldn't be a big deal if it were a one-off, but it's symptomatic of how they would much prefer keeping us citizens in the dark about everything.

That's what concerns me. And as a tax-paying citizen, I've got every right to be concerned about it. 

And for what it's worth, it's not b*tching. Just cause you don't like the rhetoric, don't dismiss it as unimportant.

It was a accidental shooting on a hunting adventure with a friend. And the press was told about it the next morning. I personally would have been bragging about bagging myself a lawyer.

It is not like he was getting happy endings from a person who was not his wife in the oval office. Not that is a strong Moral charachter.

I swear I'm gonna start keeping a running tally of every time the Clinton defense is used to defend the Bush administration.