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2012-04-24 8:58 AM

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Subject: New Bike or New Bike Frame and Build?
Was wondering if I wanted as new bike maybe I could work it by finding a frame and then put it together by finding components on this site and others.  Build it up myself?? Any idea if it might work out cheaper?  Too risky because the pieces may not all be as good as advertised?  Would appreciate some thoughts.  Thanks


2012-04-24 9:27 AM
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If you are adept at bike building, including installing and adjusting drivetrains, and properly torquing bolts (especially important with carbon components) and a savvy patient shopper, you can actually do fairly well by building a bike.  I personally was heading down this path and right before I pulled the trigger I found an absolutely killer deal on a complete bike on clearance at my local shop, so I opted for the complete bike instead. 

If you are going to build a tri-bike, look at Ebay.  There are several sellers who sell very nicely made Chinese carbon frames for around the $500-$700-ish.  One of the sellers that is very popular and has a good track rercord goes by the ebay name "carbonzone".  Also look at Alibaba.  There are several Chinese manufacturers who sell direct.  One of them is the supplier to Planet-X.  You can actually buy the same frame as the Planet X bike, but for a lot less.  There are a ton of threads on some of the road bike forums all about these components, and the general consensus is that they are very good, and for a fraction of the price of a brand name. 

 

2012-04-24 10:04 AM
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Subject: RE: New Bike or New Bike Frame and Build?
I haven't put a bike together since I was a kid so maybe I would be taking on more than I can really do, properly.  Maybe I just need to be more patient and keep looking for a good used tri bike.
2012-04-24 12:31 PM
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In my experience, you can always do better purchasing the parts and putting it together. One importance aspect of purchasing parts is you get what you want.

If you are good with tools, you-tube and other websites have an amazing amount of detailed information on how to put a bike together. My good friend put together his bike without any help just from tutorials on line and he had no experience.
2012-04-24 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: New Bike or New Bike Frame and Build?

I have done some things from youtube help and other websites.  I will do some parts research and see what the numbers look like.  I would hate to start a project then half way through figure out its as expensive or more thatn just buying a bike outright.

2012-04-24 1:07 PM
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Keys to doing the frame-and-build are:

* Knowing what you're looking at. Parts aren't just parts, and you need to know what works with what, and if used, how they wear.

* Know how to put it together. And have the tools at your disposal to do so.

* Are NOT in any kind of hurry to get the job completed. Rush is how you end up paying more for the parts than you would have otherwise.



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briderdt - 2012-04-24 2:07 PM

Keys to doing the frame-and-build are:

* Knowing what you're looking at. Parts aren't just parts, and you need to know what works with what, and if used, how they wear.

* Know how to put it together. And have the tools at your disposal to do so.

* Are NOT in any kind of hurry to get the job completed. Rush is how you end up paying more for the parts than you would have otherwise.

What he said. Lots of knowledge and lots of patience or you'll pay lots of money.

2012-04-24 1:14 PM
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In general you get a discount on parts when you buy a complete bike. As part mfg pass on discounts to large buyers (bike mfg).

If you want to do it to save money, probably best to look for older model clearance bike. If you want the challenge of building your bike over time, different story.

2012-04-24 1:27 PM
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KathyG - 2012-04-24 2:14 PM

In general you get a discount on parts when you buy a complete bike. As part mfg pass on discounts to large buyers (bike mfg).

If you want to do it to save money, probably best to look for older model clearance bike. If you want the challenge of building your bike over time, different story.

Kathy has it bang on. Traditionally you will get a better price on a whole bike opposed to piecing it out.

You may want to spec out your bike as to what frame, components, wheelset you would want...then shop around and see what a complete bike costs compared to buying and building seperately....you may be shocked to see what you find out....in the end, its not always cheaper building up yor own ride....but it is much more rewarding.

2012-04-24 1:47 PM
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I recently built a Kestrel Talon that was a warranty replacement from my brother's old 2004 frame. While I went with a little nicer components than I would have gotten had I purchased a complete frame, I also spent a bit more. In total, I think my outlay on the bike was around $1800-$2000 for group, wheels, seat, pedals, handlebars, stem, aerobars and build. The difference is, I had my bike built with better parts (SRAM Force, road config w/ clip ons) than the 105 (TT config which is cheaper for the group) that comes on the $1600 bike from BikesDirect. I may actually pick up a integrated cockpit, shifters and brakes after my first HIM to give my bike a little more life until I buy an actually dedicated TT bike. So my cost of $1800-$2000 was without frame. If you are ok with slightly lower end components (ie 105 vs Ultegra) or a previous year model you will always get a better deal buying a complete bike.
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