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2012-08-11 6:43 AM

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So what says CoJ?


2012-08-11 7:11 AM
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I like Ryan, but don't like the pick. Rubio would've been my pick if I were in Romneys shoes.
2012-08-11 7:53 AM
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Doesn't change things for me. In the last election, the VP pick did swing me. I was torn between Obama and McCain. I even thought at the Republican Convention that Palin (who was a mostly unknown at that point) really could work a crowd (which is still true). Then as the season progressed, her stunning ignorance scared me off. This time, I am already certain I will not vote for Romney. And being a young guy in good health, his VP is a lot less likely to end up in the top spot.
2012-08-11 8:40 AM
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The real question is - who is going to do Ryan on SNL.
2012-08-11 9:04 AM
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Hook'em - 2012-08-11 8:40 AM The real question is - who is going to do Ryan on SNL.

Tina Fey?

2012-08-11 9:13 AM
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Love the pick. Love the candidate (even if wasn't a local boy and an ardent Packers fan.)

Now this election becomes squarely focused on the economy, as it should be, and America will be presented with two clear paths to choose from.


2012-08-11 9:24 AM
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It's a bit more for me to think about.  Romney spent so much time talking about how bad the Ryan budget was and that was what I liked MOST about Ryan.  It's going to be a hard pill for me to swallow if they turn around and use most of it (not that I can't).  If they'd drop the God/morals issues there's a good chance I could focus on the economy as far as them being candidates, but as long as they keep bringing that up I don't know that I'll come around.  The economic plan is what I focus on most in any election.  Sometimes the candidates try to make it about things other than that; that doesn't usually sit too well with me.

There seems to be a focus on short term (and moving forward) balance with the republicans and long term balance with the democrats.  I don't know that either really TRULY balances the budget according to my definition but whatever.

2012-08-11 10:22 AM
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scoobysdad - 2012-08-11 9:13 AM

Love the pick. Love the candidate (even if wasn't a local boy and an ardent Packers fan.)

Now this election becomes squarely focused on the economy, as it should be, and America will be presented with two clear paths to choose from.


100% agreed. A gutsy choice. Is America ready for a VP with a plan that severely limits entitlements and takes away their gravy train?

If nothing else, Ryan is the republican nominee in 4 years...hopefully, this country can sustain another 4 years of the POTUS, if needed...which, i'm not sure it can.
2012-08-11 11:19 AM
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Great pick. I hope they can get his budget implemented.
2012-08-11 11:28 AM
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Ryan's budget will do little to slow down the growth of the national debt. I think it's a loser because the people who are most likely to vote (elderly) are the ones most affected by Ryan's budget.
2012-08-11 11:32 AM
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I am still reading about him.  So far I like his stances on some issues and not so much on some of the enviroment issues.  What do the Wisconsin people think?

 



2012-08-11 11:51 AM
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2012-08-11 12:00 PM
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the bear - 2012-08-11 7:04 AM

Hook'em - 2012-08-11 8:40 AM The real question is - who is going to do Ryan on SNL.

Tina Fey?

Haha.  I'd say Bill Hader.  Maybe Andy Samberg.

2012-08-11 12:30 PM
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GomesBolt - 2012-08-11 7:11 AM I like Ryan, but don't like the pick. Rubio would've been my pick if I were in Romneys shoes.

 That's what I would like to see too. However, I think Rubio brings needed leadeership to the senate and will be able to stand alone and run for POTUS down the road. Ryan is my second pick so I'm good with it. Let the fun begin!!!

2012-08-11 12:39 PM
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I'm not saying I love the guy... Whether we agree with the specifics or not, it is time for a SERIOUS look at the budget and entitlements. I understand budget cuts alone will not make things right, but the time has long since passed that minor tweaks will accomplish anything. This country needs some serious medicine and at least Ryan has the balls to say so. The pendulum needs to begin the swing the other way.

2012-08-11 12:40 PM
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Puppetmaster - 2012-08-11 11:32 AM

I am still reading about him.  So far I like his stances on some issues and not so much on some of the enviroment issues.  What do the Wisconsin people think?

 



Paul Ryan wins congressional elections with 65% of the vote in a district that voted for Obama, Kerry and Clinton. That should tell you something.



2012-08-11 1:07 PM
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powerman - 2012-08-11 11:39 AM

I'm not saying I love the guy... Whether we agree with the specifics or not, it is time for a SERIOUS look at the budget and entitlements. I understand budget cuts alone will not make things right, but the time has long since passed that minor tweaks will accomplish anything. This country needs some serious medicine and at least Ryan has the balls to say so. The pendulum needs to begin the swing the other way.

We definitely need to get the budget under control and Ryan has probably proposed the most serious cuts so far. However, even his plan is not even remotely close. Remove the deficit by 2050? Just 12 years ago we were going to pay off the debt by 2012 and now it's quadrupled. His plan isn't even close to enough to do anything. That is the problem.



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2012-08-11 1:39 PM
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I love the pick.  I am a fiscal conservative first and foremost so stopping the ridiculous spending is priority one for me.

Paul Ryan was my choice for VP because I feel he gets it and realizes there is a huge problem with our deficit and spending in Washington.  Is his plan perfect?  no.  Will it tick people off?  absolutely.  Is it necessary to have a bold plan to stop spending and save this country.  YES.

I became a Paul Ryan fan after I watched this video a couple years ago.  I thought Mitt was going to pick Rubio, so I'm pleasantly surprised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxMZ1WdINs

Saw this on Twitter this morning.  lol
Just drove by VPOTUS residence. I picture Biden in there hunched over a copy of "The Fed Budget for Dummies." 

2012-08-11 1:49 PM
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I'm not saying I love the guy... Whether we agree with the specifics or not, it is time for a SERIOUS look at the budget and entitlements. I understand budget cuts alone will not make things right, but the time has long since passed that minor tweaks will accomplish anything. This country needs some serious medicine and at least Ryan has the balls to say so. The pendulum needs to begin the swing the other way.

We definitely need to get the budget under control and Ryan has probably proposed the most serious cuts so far. However, even his plan is not even remotely close. Remove the deficit by 2050? Just 12 years ago we were going to pay off the debt by 2012 and now it's quadrupled. His plan isn't even close to enough to do anything. That is the problem.

Right, but are you saying Ryan's plan is no good, or that even as radical as it is it is not enough?

Employment does not have to be zero and neither does the debt. They both need to be manageable. Meaning the Government itself needs to stop employing people to "help out". Entitlement needs to be reined in. Spending needs to be reined in. And yes, taxes may need to be raised. All of them probably much more than the country is comfortable with. But both parties only work one side of the problem to keep "their" people happy. It's going to be a bitter pill.

2012-08-11 3:29 PM
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powerman - 2012-08-11 12:49 PM
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I'm not saying I love the guy... Whether we agree with the specifics or not, it is time for a SERIOUS look at the budget and entitlements. I understand budget cuts alone will not make things right, but the time has long since passed that minor tweaks will accomplish anything. This country needs some serious medicine and at least Ryan has the balls to say so. The pendulum needs to begin the swing the other way.

We definitely need to get the budget under control and Ryan has probably proposed the most serious cuts so far. However, even his plan is not even remotely close. Remove the deficit by 2050? Just 12 years ago we were going to pay off the debt by 2012 and now it's quadrupled. His plan isn't even close to enough to do anything. That is the problem.

Right, but are you saying Ryan's plan is no good, or that even as radical as it is it is not enough?

Employment does not have to be zero and neither does the debt. They both need to be manageable. Meaning the Government itself needs to stop employing people to "help out". Entitlement needs to be reined in. Spending needs to be reined in. And yes, taxes may need to be raised. All of them probably much more than the country is comfortable with. But both parties only work one side of the problem to keep "their" people happy. It's going to be a bitter pill.

I'm saying that as radical as it is, it does nothing to control the debt. If you look at his own numbers (which are probably a bit rosier than others might suggest) he plans to get the deficit down to 0 by 2050. So our national debt will increase under his plan for another 38 years before it levels out. I don't believe his plan takes into account any potential interest rate increase in the next 40 years, which would balloon our debt payments and blow a hole in his plan. As you said, we need to cut spending and raise taxes, he wants to cut spending and cut taxes. 



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2012-08-11 5:16 PM
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I am not a Romney fan (He is miles ahead of Obama in my book though) but this choice of Ryan is outstanding.


2012-08-11 6:51 PM
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JoshR - 2012-08-11 2:29 PM

I'm saying that as radical as it is, it does nothing to control the debt. If you look at his own numbers (which are probably a bit rosier than others might suggest) he plans to get the deficit down to 0 by 2050. So our national debt will increase under his plan for another 38 years before it levels out. I don't believe his plan takes into account any potential interest rate increase in the next 40 years, which would balloon our debt payments and blow a hole in his plan. As you said, we need to cut spending and raise taxes, he wants to cut spending and cut taxes. 

Got it. It does not matter. No point in debating the merit of anything really. Both parties are still posturing playing party politics... nothing is going to change until both of them agree we are screwed and actually accept we are going to have to do something about it.

I actually heard a talking head (D) say Ryan was too young and did not have enough executive experience to be the VP. Unbelievable.

2012-08-11 7:38 PM
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scoobysdad - 2012-08-11 10:13 AM Love the pick. Love the candidate (even if wasn't a local boy and an ardent Packers fan.) Now this election becomes squarely focused on the economy, as it should be, and America will be presented with two clear paths to choose from.

The economy may determine the election (c.f. Bill Clinton's "It's the economy, stupid"). But:

(a) the president has very little actual control over the economy. It's just too big, and has too many variables that no president can control.

(b) what about foreign policy and our place in the world? This is also very important, especially since we want to induce people to buy stuff from us and come here and spend money. We have some serious problems still in the world as far as how welcoming it is to people, and with China being a big producer of goods, I think being a persona non grata in certain parts of the world is kind of a problem for the potential leader of our country.

2012-08-11 8:54 PM
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Gearboy, what does your comment mean? Are you saying we're better off with the current president or worse off?

I agree that Congress and Senate have a bigger effect on the economy and debt. Which is why it tanked when D's controlled both houses.
2012-08-11 9:33 PM
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GomesBolt - 2012-08-11 8:54 PM

Gearboy, what does your comment mean? Are you saying we're better off with the current president or worse off?

I agree that Congress and Senate have a bigger effect on the economy and debt. Which is why it tanked when D's controlled both houses.


If you click "persona non grata" you will see Gearboy is pointing out that Romney is not welcome in all parts (in this case, Italy).
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