School shootings, enough is enough

My god man are you MAD!!!!!

I'd be happy if just handguns and assault weapons were banned. Most gun crimes are probably committed with them, so take them out of the equation and these things start to go away (shotguns would probably be pretty difficult to smuggle on campus, for instance).

The notion of injecting a big dose of good parenting is always appropriate, but there were always, always, always be disaffected kids. BUt if you take away their access to firearms, maybe they would resort to more acceptable acts of rebellion.

Like skateboarding, for example. Heck, even pot smoking would be better.

My issue with this is that you can only ban guns from law abiding citizens.  Criminals, who by deffinition do not follow the law, will only have a little harder time getting the guns. 

Problem with that is everyone won't do it. The kids who have good parenting are not the kids who shoot and kill anyone.

Herridge, you're probably right but more importantly, you're just as entitled to state your opinion as the folks who post theirs constantly. Post away. 

It is your constitutional right to beat off whoever you like.  They don't even have to be English.  They do have to consent though.

I'm sorry I couldn't help it...that line cracked me up 8)

I understand your argument and would be completely behind it if it were at all plausible.

That's possibly one of the most disturbing things I've ever read on a messageboard.  Quite incredible.

The wide proliferation of gun ownership and how easy it is for an American citizen to put his hand on a gun and use it if they want is absolutely crazy - at least to the rest of the world looking in.

Cando,

I have a question for you since you are in England. So do you guys not have any gun crimes at all??? I mean are guns not banned in England? But I understand that crimes still happen there with guns... So obviously banning the guns is not the problem.

Here is a scenerio... If a robber is going to attack to houses one with someone who owns a gun and one with someone who doesnt; who do you think he attacks???? There are hundreds of stories every week of people who have defended their families with guns and a good result has came about it but you never hear about those.

And for the people who say what about a school being too big.. Well then you just have two school marshalls... I didnt say it was going to end school violance... I said it might deter a few and maybe it is just me but if we have 3 less school shootings a year because of it, that sounds like a good thing.
Nothing else is working... We have a zero policy here in TN where if you bring a gun to school you get suspended for a year but yet every week there is some kid in Metro Nashville that brings a gun to school and I bet money on it that it isnt the straight A student that is worried about his grades if he gets suspended and cannot get into college.

Trigods - our gun crime is almost exclusively limited to the criminal element - ie; criminals shooting criminals.  Very rarely does someone get shot who is not of poor character themselves. 

Harldy anyone owns a gun - most robberies are committed by junkies who just want to get enough of your property to pay for their next fix - they'd never rob your house if you were in it and if they did they'd run for the hills.

Having so many guns in a country, having their ownership so widespread and people believing they have a consitutional right to pull a trigger 'normalises' and devalues human life.  At least that's my perception from over here.

When you watch documentries here you see cops getting out of cars to pull over people speeding with their guns drawn!  WTF is that all about?!

Sorry but I really find that hard to believe that only druggies break into homes and steal only what the need for the next fix...  and if there are no guns why would they (the junkies) run for the hills if someone was home? What is the home owner going to do, beat them with their tea pot???

We the US value life as much as anyone. It is not a constitutional right to pull the trigger. It is to protect yourself and your family. My dad owned plenty of guns and he only shot them while hunting (yes we ate what he killed, we lived in the country). So there was no need to be all trigger happy but if for some reason someone broke into our home to hurt our family then that is when my Dad would have got the gun but he would not have shot someone unless he absolutely had to!

We come from different cultures and they'll be plenty that both of us find hard to believe about where the other is from - that's the beauty of the internet.  We can find out.

I can assure you that burglars do everything they can to ensure there is no one at home before they break in.  Further, if I did come home and find someone in my house and a teapot was to hand they'd be at a very high risk of being seriously hurt with it.  It also worries me that if I came home and I knew there was a gun hidden away that I might shoot them with it - I don't want to walk around knowing that I did that for the rest of my days.

The burglars don't carry guns - we're beginning to have a problem with people carrying knives and perhaps guns is the next step.

You've grown up with guns - I don't think I've ever even seen one out of a holster (when on holiday) or in a museum.  They are revered and something to be extremely scared of over here.

People hunt over here and I don't have a problem with that and perhaps it's a Country v Townie thing but as a 'Townie' there is just no place for guns in our community (here) - they serve no purpose.

Cando

I agree that we do come from different cultures. I find it hard to believe that you guys used to kill your criminals and people with guillotines and I am sure you guys freak out because we have "old Sparky" (electric chair).

It must be a "townie" thing because out in the country over here you hardly ever hear of people being killed in the streets like in Metro area's. And most people hunt and have bows and arrows etc in the country. I live in a town of only 9000 people but we have never had a murder in the last 15 years.

All I have to say is I hope it never happens to you and if it does use that big tea pot over the stove....

I thought you lived in Nashville?

I live in White House, 25 minutes from downtown... We have a Kroger and are just now have the land cleared for a wal-mart. Our only non mexican sit down resturant is a cracker B...

No one's ever heard of white house TN so I say nashville

I see another issue.  In the future world as any of us see it....there is no way in humanity to get the guns away from the criminals.  This simply is NOT going to occur.  You must accept this as fact, and base your decisions from there.  Drugs and guns are with us, and they will continue to be with us. There is no solution to this, there is only acceptance.  And if you say you do not believe this, it is simply because you do not want to believe it.   Acceptance of this is a painful thing and some people can't live happily if they let themselves ever truly believe that this is the world we live in.  But the test is this: name me one time, in the history of the known world, where we have been able to get the criminals to stop doing what we don't want them to do.   We haven't and we can't.  We only enfore / impose (depending on how you see it) "control" laws over people we can actually control, and as it happens, this can often time be to their detriment.   What would be, honestly as you see it, the benefit of denying a gun to a law abiding citizen for personal protection, once you accept the fact that the people who wish to harm him and his family will most certainly possess one.