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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I hope your family is ok. It is hard to be that far. My family is in Florida as well and sometimes being so far away is hard. My prayers are with you. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KansasMom - 2012-01-05 12:17 AM Still feeling bad. I managed 30 minutes on the bike trainer. I'm hoping to run tomorrow. I'm going through running withdrawal. I hope you fee l better soon. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My gym has a Masters Class that I was denied entry to because I was slow and needed more individual coaching on my stroke and technique. anyway, they are starting a Developmental Masters Swim Program on Saturday mornings only. I ask if I could join, told them where I am (haven't swam since Aug) and my last swim time. Waiting to hear back. It starts on Sat. One issue is the the class is at 6am on Sat and I do my group long run at 7am. It so happens that the swim center where the class is, we meet in the parking lot for group runs. Technically, I can leave class 10 mins early, drag on my clothes and head outside. Assuming I get in: Would that be pushing it too much? Am I going to get sick going wet from the pool to running outside in the cold? Running after I swim has always been hard for me, will my body adapt? Lovey |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cdban66 - 2012-01-05 7:28 AM Good Morning everyone, I got in a 3 mile run this morning in the 38* temps. It was really cold (says the wimpy Floridian with a smile). Actually, I think I could get used to the cold weather running if I could figure out the clothing choices. I actually logged my clothing choices today in an attempt at keeping track of what works and what doesn't. I hope everyone gets out there and does something today. Fallon, Good Luck on the swim case! Felicia, I hope you start feeling better. Dan, I'm trying to figure out the clothing thing as well, trial and error for me (and really, mine can't be as challenging as the sub freezing you are working through). Good luck with the choices. For cold weather running, I like a long sleeve shirt with 3/4 zip collar and a wind jacket over it. If it's really cold, I throw on a vest under the jacket. I like the 3/4 zip so that I can put it down and let my neck breathe once I warm up. For my legs, I wear running tights and then layer with track pants of 2 different weights as needed. Good luck- don't get discouraged. |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi y'all! Sorry about being a little MIA. Jenny, so sorry about your family. Hopefully your step-mom will get over the infection soon. I have been mostly running and swimming, but the bike is a problem because of the cold. I bit the bullet and bought a trainer, so come next week, I won't have an excuse any more. I'm a hot weather person and absolutely hate the cold. I don't mind running in the cold when it's short runs because I can start out feeling a little chilly and wamp up enough to finish the run comfortably. My problem is the longer runs. I may feel cold, but I still sweat quite a bit, so that after 5-6 miles I'm soaked and then I get chilled. I've tried all kinds of wicking fabrics, but they can only do so much. I'll layer and take off my outer layer when I'm starting to feel warm, but towards the end of the run I have to put it back on and I'm still cold because I'm wet. It's pretty windy around here a lot of the time, so that doesn't help. Did I mention that I don't like the cold? :-) One of the ladies in my masters swimming group got a waterproof video camera with a tripod for the pool and brought it to practice last night. So, we all got taped. It was very enlightening and depressing at the same time. I knew my form was bad, but not that bad. I may have to end up taking a few individual lessons to work on stroke technique. Our coach is great, and I've made progress, but he can't watch everyone all the time. And it's 9 days and 17 hours to the Houston Marathon. I'm starting to get a little nervous and trying to balance working out and resting, which can be a little difficult. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Getting back into running, I have been doing a 15.3/15.4 min mile pace. Tonight I improved my 1 min per mile after a month of consistent running. I wasn't trying to go faster on purpose, I knew it was faster but I felt ok and not winded at all. I know its not much but i just hope its a sign that my body is on the right track. I am still planning on keep my distance short (4-6 miles) for a little while longer and let my pace pick up on its on for now. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jsnowash - 2012-01-05 6:40 AM Ugh - bad news on the home front.... I just got word from my dad that my step-mom is in the hospital. She was a smoker when she was younger, and now has emphysema. She has a respiratory infection, which is always bad news for her. They have her in intensive care now, but Dad says she seems to be doing better, but he's always a basket case when she gets sick. These kinds of infections really take their toll on her and it takes her a long time to bounce back. I'm more or less on call to head down there (they're in Florida now) to help them out if they say they need me.
Oh no! Sending prayers and healing vibes from Utah! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() onetwotri - 2012-01-05 6:03 PM Hi y'all! Sorry about being a little MIA. Jenny, so sorry about your family. Hopefully your step-mom will get over the infection soon. I have been mostly running and swimming, but the bike is a problem because of the cold. I bit the bullet and bought a trainer, so come next week, I won't have an excuse any more. I'm a hot weather person and absolutely hate the cold. I don't mind running in the cold when it's short runs because I can start out feeling a little chilly and wamp up enough to finish the run comfortably. My problem is the longer runs. I may feel cold, but I still sweat quite a bit, so that after 5-6 miles I'm soaked and then I get chilled. I've tried all kinds of wicking fabrics, but they can only do so much. I'll layer and take off my outer layer when I'm starting to feel warm, but towards the end of the run I have to put it back on and I'm still cold because I'm wet. It's pretty windy around here a lot of the time, so that doesn't help. Did I mention that I don't like the cold? :-) One of the ladies in my masters swimming group got a waterproof video camera with a tripod for the pool and brought it to practice last night. So, we all got taped. It was very enlightening and depressing at the same time. I knew my form was bad, but not that bad. I may have to end up taking a few individual lessons to work on stroke technique. Our coach is great, and I've made progress, but he can't watch everyone all the time. And it's 9 days and 17 hours to the Houston Marathon. I'm starting to get a little nervous and trying to balance working out and resting, which can be a little difficult. Good luck in the marathon! The last few weeks can be a little nerve racking - always wondering if you're training too much and you'll be fatigued come race day or not enough and you'll loose some fitness.... I totally understand! Trust your training, and all will go well! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovey - 2012-01-05 8:44 PM Getting back into running, I have been doing a 15.3/15.4 min mile pace. Tonight I improved my 1 min per mile after a month of consistent running. I wasn't trying to go faster on purpose, I knew it was faster but I felt ok and not winded at all. I know its not much but i just hope its a sign that my body is on the right track. I am still planning on keep my distance short (4-6 miles) for a little while longer and let my pace pick up on its on for now. Hooray for progress! Good job! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovey - 2012-01-05 11:55 AM My gym has a Masters Class that I was denied entry to because I was slow and needed more individual coaching on my stroke and technique. anyway, they are starting a Developmental Masters Swim Program on Saturday mornings only. I ask if I could join, told them where I am (haven't swam since Aug) and my last swim time. Waiting to hear back. It starts on Sat. One issue is the the class is at 6am on Sat and I do my group long run at 7am. It so happens that the swim center where the class is, we meet in the parking lot for group runs. Technically, I can leave class 10 mins early, drag on my clothes and head outside. Assuming I get in: Would that be pushing it too much? Am I going to get sick going wet from the pool to running outside in the cold? Running after I swim has always been hard for me, will my body adapt? Lovey It's hard to say what the answer to any of those questions might be for you... The best I can suggest is to maybe try it some week and see how it goes. If you find yourself feeling too fatigued from the swimming for a good run, then I guess you might need to choose which workout is more important to you, or maybe you could alternate (swim one week, group run the alternate week, etc.) |
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Member ![]() | ![]() Jenny: Thanks for the link. I read the description and didn't think I was up to the full 30 mins, but I did some more poking around on BT and found this alternate yet similar method. I figured I could go at my maximum for 3 minutes. Just did the test and here were my results. So lo and behold, my max heart rate is 194. Thanks again for all the help.
Thanks to all with the cold weather suggestions. What I got out of it was basically layer as appropriate. I think my priority is getting a good set of base clothes like running tights and a cold weather compression shirt. I'll admit, I am pretty much a whimp when it comes to the cold weather even though I've lived in New England my whole life. Keep up the good training everyone. Dan
jsnowash - 2012-01-04 4:46 PM twostep252 - 2012-01-04 3:58 PM I'm not familiar with the procedure the Global Trainer uses to calculate HR zones, but generally speaking, I don't put a whole lot of faith in calculations that determine heart rate zones based on age.... Heart rate zones are a very individual thing, and general formulas may over- or under-estimate them on an individual level. They are also sport-specific - i.e., your cycling zones will be different from your running zones. There are lots of strategies for field testing to determine your zones. This one is as good as any... but it can be a little taxing, and I would suggest you wait to try this unless you're sure you're up for running or riding (if you want to test your bike zones as well) pretty much as hard as you can for 30 minutes. You can always wait a month or two to test. Between now and then, you can wear your heart rate monitor and observe how you you feel at different heart rates. I can pretty much tell by feel now when I move out of zone 3. It's the point where my breathing just begins to get a little heavier, and talking would begin to be a little more difficult. If you're not ready to field test just yet, for now you can experiment a little - wear the monitor and gradually increase your effort until you reach that "little bit hard" point, back off a bit until you're back in a more comfortable zone, and see where your heart rate is. This will probably be pretty close to your LT heart rate, and might be a better estimate for setting your zones. In looking at your logs an the heart rates for your recent runs, I suspect your zones may be set a little low for you, but again, it's a very individual thing, so it's hard to say for sure.My new global trainer watch came with instructions on how to calculate my max heart rate. It basically had be do a series of step ups over 3 minutes and then add a scale factor based on my age. It gave me a max heart rate of around 190 bpm. From there, the software broke down the max heart rate into zones. Due to my inexperience with HR training, I've put a lot of faith in this device and the instructions it came with. Do you have any suggestions on how to field test to see if I am targeting the right zones? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovey - 2012-01-05 7:44 PM Getting back into running, I have been doing a 15.3/15.4 min mile pace. Tonight I improved my 1 min per mile after a month of consistent running. I wasn't trying to go faster on purpose, I knew it was faster but I felt ok and not winded at all. I know its not much but i just hope its a sign that my body is on the right track. I am still planning on keep my distance short (4-6 miles) for a little while longer and let my pace pick up on its on for now. That's great! I found a similar thing. I began running more consistently and more often, at a slow easy pace, and that pace improved without doing much of anything else. A strong base is very important, and I think it takes a while for some of us to get there. |
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Member![]() ![]() | ![]() Long run of the week in the books. Lesson for today -- remember to use copious amounts of body glide for the long runs (particularly when wearing more layers and winter clothing). Biking on the trainer tonight. Anyone else riding? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() crimsont - 2012-01-06 3:11 PM Long run of the week in the books. Lesson for today -- remember to use copious amounts of body glide for the long runs (particularly when wearing more layers and winter clothing). Biking on the trainer tonight. Anyone else riding? I may jump on the trainer for 30 minutes later tonight, but I did finally get a run in -- 3.4 miles this afternoon. It felt wonderful. I'm still not at 100 percent, but good enough. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I need some opinions: I'm just coming off one week of not running at all -- I had a horrible cold and I felt it was very close to moving into my chest. In addition, I was exhausted. Before the cold, I had run for about 30 days straight -- a little more, actually, now that I think about it. I had run everyday from the day before Thanksgiving until December 29. I was averaging only about 25 miles a week. I think in November, I hit almost 110 miles. (I think my brain is still foggy from cold medicine -- I'm still taking it at night). Anyway . . . I ran 3.4 miles today. Normally, Saturday morning would be my long run day: 8-10 miles. I'm thinking I probably should wait a week before a long run, no? I thought maybe I should just run 4-5 tomorrow, or do you think I should stick to three miles a day for a while before bumping up to 5? I am planning to run as many days as I can -- I really don't even want to take one day off a week, so by next weekend, I should have 7 days of running under my belt, and then it would be okay to take off for 8-10 miles? I'm impatient, of course, to get back on track, but I also am very mindful of injury. I have had Achilles and SI joint issues in the past, and I don't want to go there again. (Thus the running every day, which actually seems to help me stay injury free.) |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() twostep252 - 2012-01-06 9:17 AM Jenny: Thanks for the link. I read the description and didn't think I was up to the full 30 mins, but I did some more poking around on BT and found this alternate yet similar method. I figured I could go at my maximum for 3 minutes. Just did the test and here were my results. So lo and behold, my max heart rate is 194. Thanks again for all the help.
Thanks to all with the cold weather suggestions. What I got out of it was basically layer as appropriate. I think my priority is getting a good set of base clothes like running tights and a cold weather compression shirt. I'll admit, I am pretty much a whimp when it comes to the cold weather even though I've lived in New England my whole life. Keep up the good training everyone. Dan
Excellent! Glad you found a test protocol that worked for you. When you have a more solid base built up, you might consider re-testing with the 30 min test if it feels like your zones are off at all. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KansasMom - 2012-01-07 12:48 AM I need some opinions: I'm just coming off one week of not running at all -- I had a horrible cold and I felt it was very close to moving into my chest. In addition, I was exhausted. Before the cold, I had run for about 30 days straight -- a little more, actually, now that I think about it. I had run everyday from the day before Thanksgiving until December 29. I was averaging only about 25 miles a week. I think in November, I hit almost 110 miles. (I think my brain is still foggy from cold medicine -- I'm still taking it at night). Anyway . . . I ran 3.4 miles today. Normally, Saturday morning would be my long run day: 8-10 miles. I'm thinking I probably should wait a week before a long run, no? I thought maybe I should just run 4-5 tomorrow, or do you think I should stick to three miles a day for a while before bumping up to 5? I am planning to run as many days as I can -- I really don't even want to take one day off a week, so by next weekend, I should have 7 days of running under my belt, and then it would be okay to take off for 8-10 miles? I'm impatient, of course, to get back on track, but I also am very mindful of injury. I have had Achilles and SI joint issues in the past, and I don't want to go there again. (Thus the running every day, which actually seems to help me stay injury free.) I doubt that you will have lost much, if any, run fitness with just one week off.... But you may still be recovering from your bug, so you might want to take it a little easier as you start to run again. I think your plan sounds pretty reasonable, but assess how you feel as the week goes along. Come next weekend, you might want to keep that first long run after your mini-break on the shorter side, just so you can make sure everything goes according to plan, and if everything seems okay, return to what you've been doing. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() First week of the new year has gone pretty well for me - I've been pretty consistent with my training, and most importantly. Today will be back-to-back spin classes, and tomorrow will be a run and maybe a swim if I can fit it into the schedule. My main goal now is to build my swimming consistency back up - I've been pretty bad about getting myself to the pool lately.... My goal is 2-3x/week swimming (3 would be better...) in addition to what I'm currently doing with running and biking. Have a great weekend, everybody! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I got into the Development Masters Swim class! Yeah! My first class was this morning at 6am and runs for an hour. It was a good workout. My running group starts at 7am but I had to start a little later due to the swim class. I ran about 5 and a half miles afterwards. It was even slower than my slow run. HOWEVER, I kept running and I could breathe. In the past, running after a swim was almost impossible because I felt like I couldn't catch a breath. Great morning workout. Have to decide what i want to do tomorrow morning. I haven't pick or settle on a training plan yet. How many of you use the BT training plans? Last year, I combined Hal Higdon half marathon and the Zero to 1 mileprogram together then added in biking in the free days. Still figuring it out. Lovey |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovey - 2012-01-07 2:57 PM I got into the Development Masters Swim class! Yeah! My first class was this morning at 6am and runs for an hour. It was a good workout. My running group starts at 7am but I had to start a little later due to the swim class. I ran about 5 and a half miles afterwards. It was even slower than my slow run. HOWEVER, I kept running and I could breathe. In the past, running after a swim was almost impossible because I felt like I couldn't catch a breath. Great morning workout. Have to decide what i want to do tomorrow morning. How many of you use the BT training plans? Lovey That's awesome! Congratulations for getting into the masters class. And that you could get your 5 miles in after. I find that after I started swimming my arobic endurance has gotten a lot better. This morning was my last long run before the marathon. We ran 6 miles and it felt like such a short run. Tapering is hard, but I know that it will help in the ling run (pun intended lol). The weather is supposed to be great for the marathon, low 40s at the start going up to a high in the low 60s. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Tracy, great job. Both on the masters class and on the run. You asked about the training plans, I sort of followed one for the sprints I did last year. It helped. Currently, I am just trying to get a strong base in place, and prep for a 1/2 Mary in March. So most of my workouts are runs. And running is my soft spot. That said, today was a group ride, 32 miles. What a good ride it was. This was followed by a fitting on the bike. A few areas were tweaked, but I went in fairly comfortable. All in all, a really good day. Tomorrow should be my long run, probably about 1:15 through the neighborhood. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jsnowash - 2012-01-07 5:04 AM First week of the new year has gone pretty well for me - I've been pretty consistent with my training, and most importantly. Today will be back-to-back spin classes, and tomorrow will be a run and maybe a swim if I can fit it into the schedule. My main goal now is to build my swimming consistency back up - I've been pretty bad about getting myself to the pool lately.... My goal is 2-3x/week swimming (3 would be better...) in addition to what I'm currently doing with running and biking. Have a great weekend, everybody! Good for you! I also need to get back to swimming. We got an email last week announcing that the pool will be open beginning this Monday, but during lunch, which is when I swam last semester. I'm going to try to get there at 6:00 a.m. and swim for an hour before work. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovey - 2012-01-07 2:57 PM I got into the Development Masters Swim class! Yeah! My first class was this morning at 6am and runs for an hour. It was a good workout. My running group starts at 7am but I had to start a little later due to the swim class. I ran about 5 and a half miles afterwards. It was even slower than my slow run. HOWEVER, I kept running and I could breathe. In the past, running after a swim was almost impossible because I felt like I couldn't catch a breath. Great morning workout. Have to decide what i want to do tomorrow morning. I haven't pick or settle on a training plan yet. How many of you use the BT training plans? Last year, I combined Hal Higdon half marathon and the Zero to 1 mileprogram together then added in biking in the free days. Still figuring it out. Lovey That is so exciting! Good for you. You had a terrific workout today. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I ran 4.3 miles this afternoon. I thought about trying to go farther, but I decided that was enough for today. I may try 5-6 tomorrow. I am actually a little sore, and I haven't been in a long time. I'd like to get on the trainer tonight too. I didn't do it last night, and I'm thinking my legs would appreciate it. :-) |
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New user ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am sorry that you and your family have to go though that! Hopefully she will bounce back fast. Prayers! |
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