kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 Part 2 - CLOSED (Page 100)

Love the Bryan logging in under Jen's ID comment!

I left out one very important piece of info - he does not like to exercise early in the morning.

It's not that he feels like he needs to eat before working out, it's that by the time he decides to finally get his butt out the door he's already eaten, or had coffee.  Or, it's after work in the evening, so he probably has something in his stomach.

I've tried to convince him to get up early and go!!!  Don't think about it, just go run and then you can eat and drink all you want.

Maybe my question should have been - how do I convince my husband to exercise early in the morning?

I never thought about it that way, but you could be right.  Interesting.  Honestly, I would feel fine doing an olympic distance race on just water (not saying my performance wouldn't suffer, but physically I would feel fine), because I've done some very long workouts with nothing.  I always eat plenty after the workout.  I've been using my long ride to experiment with my HIM nutrition.  I don't want to practice, but I know I have to in order to be able to suck down the calories I need for that race distance.  Perhaps we need to work on this aspect of my training, Kelly.  

Anyway, listen people - I took a gel with me during a run last Sunday......so there!  Ha!     

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

So no twinkies Jen?

karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 9:42 AM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

So no twinkies Jen?

Oh Jen.  You're going to have to get over that if you're going to do an Ironman.  Or you could be like that guy I saw at IMTX bike checkin with 2 PB&J sandwiches strapped to the under side of his base bars.  Or you could just come down here to a rodeo or the State Fair and I'll show you foods that will make you long for gels and sport drinks. 

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

Jen - I am going to agree with you here...I hate gels and all the other sports crap they sell. I have been laughed at on long rides when I pull out the kids gogo applesauce packets, but they have just as many carbs, and although there is a little sugar added, it is natural sugar not artificial crap. I think the gogo company could make a killing if they marketed their product to athletes!! That said, you know I use the Hammer Perpetuem with no sugar in it and for me it works well for >60-90 minute workouts.

And Scott - I would ABSOLUTELY prefer a PBJ (LOVE IT!!) over any sport stuff. I would be that person!

What do you consider the time frame for "an empty stomach"? 

For instance, last night was my first hockey game of the season (we won, 4-2, but I let in a crappy goal so not REAL happy). Game was at 8:30pm, last thing I ate was at 2pm.

Is that an empty stomach? 

karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 10:42 AM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

So no twinkies Jen?

EW, no.  Not ever.  

People are always baffled when I pass up cake at birthday parties.  If someone takes their personal time and puts some love into a homemade cake, then yes, I'll eat a piece.  If we're talking some store bought cake from Giant Eagle or something, then hell no.  My mother-in-law thinks I'm the most self-disciplined person she's ever met, but it's not self-discipline.  I'm just particular.  I'll eat 1/2 watermelon while they're sitting there eating cake, and I'm called an oddball.  Whatevs.    

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:49 AM

karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 9:42 AM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

So no twinkies Jen?

Oh Jen.  You're going to have to get over that if you're going to do an Ironman.  Or you could be like that guy I saw at IMTX bike checkin with 2 PB&J sandwiches strapped to the under side of his base bars.  Or you could just come down here to a rodeo or the State Fair and I'll show you foods that will make you long for gels and sport drinks. 

See...I disagree.  I think you can do fine on PB&J, bananas, and other food.  Lots of interesting ideas in Scott Jurek's book.  He eats burritos, miso rice balls wrapped in seaweed, etc. on long runs.  He also makes these Azuki bean bars as a substitute for energy bars. I think it can be done but it takes some attention to detail/time.  I cook 99.9% of my family's food from scratch, so I know I could do this for myself.  Have to do a lot of research before getting there though.  

There are also lots of recipes for homemade gels.  Even pure honey does the trick.  

That one gymnast on the USA Olympic team (forget his name) swears by honey. He keeps some with him in his meets.

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 12:09 PM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:49 AM

karen26.2 - 2012-07-17 9:42 AM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

So no twinkies Jen?

Oh Jen.  You're going to have to get over that if you're going to do an Ironman.  Or you could be like that guy I saw at IMTX bike checkin with 2 PB&J sandwiches strapped to the under side of his base bars.  Or you could just come down here to a rodeo or the State Fair and I'll show you foods that will make you long for gels and sport drinks. 

See...I disagree.  I think you can do fine on PB&J, bananas, and other food.  Lots of interesting ideas in Scott Jurek's book.  He eats burritos, miso rice balls wrapped in seaweed, etc. on long runs.  He also makes these Azuki bean bars as a substitute for energy bars. I think it can be done but it takes some attention to detail/time.  I cook 99.9% of my family's food from scratch, so I know I could do this for myself.  Have to do a lot of research before getting there though.  

There are also lots of recipes for homemade gels.  Even pure honey does the trick.  

The trick is finding what you can tolerate, practcing wiht it over and over in training and then using it on race day.  Lots of people have GI issues with fat and protein over the course of a IM legnth event.  What works for Scott Jurek may or may not work for you. 

Also you have to remeber that Scott Jurek is running super log at way below his aerobic theshold, which make a big difference.  When you are running that (relatively) easy your GI system is still getting blood flow.  At an Olympic distance your functioning at above lactate threshold, a very different situation.

DDVMM - 2012-07-17 10:55 AM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

 

Jen - I am going to agree with you here...I hate gels and all the other sports crap they sell. I have been laughed at on long rides when I pull out the kids gogo applesauce packets, but they have just as many carbs, and although there is a little sugar added, it is natural sugar not artificial crap. I think the gogo company could make a killing if they marketed their product to athletes!! That said, you know I use the Hammer Perpetuem with no sugar in it and for me it works well for >60-90 minute workouts.

 

And Scott - I would ABSOLUTELY prefer a PBJ (LOVE IT!!) over any sport stuff. I would be that person!

I think that's perfect.  Applesuace is my go to pre race food.  Lots of easily digestible carbs and water.

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

I cannot stand GU, Hammer of any of the other thick gels that are like eating semi liquified cotton candy. I've taken to two natural ones and actually find them reasonably enjoyable. The top is made with figs and the bottom honey. I'll still put a banana in the back of my cycling jersey to offset having to do all gels when training but these aren't bad.

http://ignitenaturals.com/reload-energy-gel.php

http://honeystinger.com/

everlong - 2012-07-17 1:16 PM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

I cannot stand GU, Hammer of any of the other thick gels that are like eating semi liquified cotton candy. I've taken to two natural ones and actually find them reasonably enjoyable. The top is made with figs and the bottom honey. I'll still put a banana in the back of my cycling jersey to offset having to do all gels when training but these aren't bad.

http://ignitenaturals.com/reload-energy-gel.php

http://honeystinger.com/

 

I have several friends who have taken to Napalm by Infinit.  It's mix your own so you control the consistency.

I am so sorry to hear that ... that really sucks and believe me I know processing everything is really hard to.  I have had a few cries.

So the elephant in the thread ... what does that mean for IMNY?  Or not sure yet?  Does the IT band repair itself?  Does it hurt in that area?  I have only heard you mention the shoulder hurting, but did see the bruise.

No IMNYC.  Its not worth the potential risk of injury to have a mediocre race.  I don't want to rupture the IT band.  I do that and Im finished.

Leg hurts.  I can't lay on the side.  Any pressure on it causes intense pain.  It just easier to ignore than the shoulder because I don't need it to do everyday things, I just need it to run.

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 2:39 PM

everlong - 2012-07-17 1:16 PM

jarvy01 - 2012-07-17 10:19 AM

uhcoog - 2012-07-17 10:09 AM A gel!!!!!!!!  The horror.  

I say the same thing EVERY time I consume something artificial like a gel or a bottle of sport drink.....the horror!  I have always been pretty crazy about what I put into my body, but over the last 2 years, I've been even more particular.  If it's not real food...meaning a piece of fruit, veg, meat, or whole grain, I don't want it in my body.  It's been a real challenge consuming these things that don't even come close to resembling food.  

I cannot stand GU, Hammer of any of the other thick gels that are like eating semi liquified cotton candy. I've taken to two natural ones and actually find them reasonably enjoyable. The top is made with figs and the bottom honey. I'll still put a banana in the back of my cycling jersey to offset having to do all gels when training but these aren't bad.

http://ignitenaturals.com/reload-energy-gel.php

http://honeystinger.com/

 

I have several friends who have taken to Napalm by Infinit.  It's mix your own so you control the consistency.

I'll give it a shot. I've been meaning to try Infinit out in general.