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2013-06-05 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by 4agoodlife Ok, I have decided I need to work on speeding up on my runs. So far, for a year, I have pretty much just gone out and run... slowly. No plan (let the pod eye rolling commence). No real goal, except get back home or not fall of the treadmill. I need to change that. Jogo tonight was 1:4 run/walk on the 4.6mi loop. Did it in 57:41. Looked at my min by min and was happy to see that my fastest run minute was at 51. I'm going to do this for the week and then fully run it on Sat or Sun. Not expecting to see a difference, but curious how it feels. I'll do some research when I get home next week for which plan I want to use.

Erin, what did your research yield? I am far from fast, but the few times I have worked on speed, it has been by adding a harder run once a week. I have to focus on it, and work on it, but if I hit it consistently for a couple of months, I'll see improvement. My four factors for running improvements are:

  • Base Build
  • More Running
  • Speed work (once every 7-10 days)
  • Mental Focus

Like I said, I am FAR from an expert, but that is what has helped this old body improve. I am currently in a speed cycle, for about 3 more weeks. Then it is back to running for the sake of running for a bit, give the ole legs a chance to catch up.

Scouts Running Tips

For both of you, would recommend continuing to build up run volume. That has been the biggest determining factor for my improvement. For faster running, maybe some strides at most. If you don't know what those are, pick either of say 70-100 yds or 30 seconds, and pick up the pace for that. Build into say 5k pace or so throughout that time/distance. This is not a sprint, but a way to get more used to running faster without adding much stress. I tend to do them throughout a run, but others will find a flat, straight section of road (or a track) and do them there.

I'm not really sure the run volume is quite there for much other work, such as a tempo. For anything like that or various intervals you want to be well warmed up beforehand. That usually takes a couple miles. Then some easy running afterward, and this is already at about what a "normal" run might be for each of you. Then to do enough "speed" to be useful, you'd have to make this a relatively long run. I'm not too big on that as you're stressing yourself by both distance AND intensity in the same run. That will be a big physiological cost. This is not to say one should only ever do easy pace in the long run, but rather to generally try and keep the main speed work separate from the long run.

Something else that can help is the use of hills. The uphill can help develop more power without as much impact. Do be careful on the downhills though. Take it easy at first. Scout had recommended only going faster on ones that are 3% grade or less (matching my experience as well). I'd say take it easy on all of them for now and get used to working the uphill. The downhill can be helpful, but it can also be a lot harder as you're falling farther vertically with each step, more so as you go faster.

Thanks for all of this, Ben. So what would you consider a "relatively long run"? I understand what you're saying here, I think. It takes me about 20 minutes to feel good about a run, so I wouldn't want to do any tempo work until after that. So I guess what I'm asking is how long would the "speed" portion of this run be, assuming 20 minutes warm up before and cool down after?

I miss Scout.

I believe what Ben means is that for a tempo, you would want to warm up for 2-3 miles, do a tempo, say 4 miles at HM pace, and then cool down for a few miles. Suddenly you are at nearly, or over 10 miles. Now, if you are used to running 10-milers, no biggie. But if you are not, you are working on endurance and speed at the same time and more often that not, that is a recipe for injury.

I can't say enough, work on your volume and frequency first, you can go a hell of a long way with this simple strategy. Ben's suggestion of hills for strength is not a bad idea either. And this can be pretty informal. It can just simply be selecting a hilly route and doesn't necessarily need to be hill repeats to get the benefits.

Right. I understand that we need to work on one thing at a time. I'm working on 10k pace right now because I'm doing Olympic distances this summer. Do you still think a proper tempo run should be 10 miles for a 10k? I guess I was thinking I could do two miles warm up, two miles at 10k pace, two miles cool down. My "long" runs are between 8-11 miles. It seems to me that my running fitness could handle that six mile "tempo" run. Do you disagree?

No...I don't disagree. I think if you do a little shorter version, as you defined above and take the WU and CD seriously, it's alright.

Do you know what your threshold pace is? (85% V02 max) Why I am asking is because you don't want to do that tempo too fast. For me, a 10K pace would be on the fast end for a tempo run.

 

Also, Felicia, how many MPW are you @ typically? 



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2013-06-05 11:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
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New BT settings PSA:

If you do not want your email address to be visible in your profile, confirm that it is not checked under Settings > Account Settings > Email.

At least one person in this group has this checked and I was not sure if this individual intended for that to be the case or not.  So Judi, please confirm your settings are what you intended Wink

Wow, the Manatee Stalking goes to all lengths Surprised  Fixed it.

If anyone *really* wants to stalk Judi, let me know... 

2013-06-05 11:49 AM
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Oh, I've added another race to my calendar for this Friday. It's the briefcase 5K relay Smile Very serious business. We are currently in the depths of a controversial race day strategy discussion. Will we be dressed as Ninja Turtles? Will in be SNL characters? Or, the golden girls. Only time will tell.

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2013-06-05 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed Oh, I've added another race to my calendar for this Friday. It's the briefcase 5K relay Smile Very serious business. We are currently in the depths of a controversial race day strategy discussion. Will we be dressed as Ninja Turtles? Will in be SNL characters? Or, the golden girls. Only time will tell.

Given those 3, there is only one correct answer. Beatrice Arthur! Rue McLanahan! Estell Getty! Betty White! What a winning combination.

But wait, is someone else going to race as the Wiggles? Oh, oh, oooo, Old school, maybe Lost in Space characters. Or Star Trek Characters (nm, that is so overdone). The A-Team, maybe.

I vote Bond Girls, if my vote matters.

2013-06-05 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed Oh, I've added another race to my calendar for this Friday. It's the briefcase 5K relay Smile Very serious business. We are currently in the depths of a controversial race day strategy discussion. Will we be dressed as Ninja Turtles? Will in be SNL characters? Or, the golden girls. Only time will tell.

Given those 3, there is only one correct answer. Beatrice Arthur! Rue McLanahan! Estell Getty! Betty White! What a winning combination.

But wait, is someone else going to race as the Wiggles? Oh, oh, oooo, Old school, maybe Lost in Space characters. Or Star Trek Characters (nm, that is so overdone). The A-Team, maybe.

I vote Bond Girls, if my vote matters.

The A team was on the list. If it were up to me, I'd pick SNL characters and I'd run as Target lady, or Junice.

I'm a last minute addition to the team so I'm not being pushy about my opinions.  

2013-06-05 12:12 PM
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I vote for Ninja Turtles....or...how about the Avengers...


2013-06-05 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed Oh, I've added another race to my calendar for this Friday. It's the briefcase 5K relay Smile Very serious business. We are currently in the depths of a controversial race day strategy discussion. Will we be dressed as Ninja Turtles? Will in be SNL characters? Or, the golden girls. Only time will tell.

PacMan ghosts.  Fastest person can dress up as PacMan and have the ghosts chasing him.

2013-06-05 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by KansasMom
Originally posted by Asalzwed I believe what Ben means is that for a tempo, you would want to warm up for 2-3 miles, do a tempo, say 4 miles at HM pace, and then cool down for a few miles. Suddenly you are at nearly, or over 10 miles. Now, if you are used to running 10-milers, no biggie. But if you are not, you are working on endurance and speed at the same time and more often that not, that is a recipe for injury.

I can't say enough, work on your volume and frequency first, you can go a hell of a long way with this simple strategy. Ben's suggestion of hills for strength is not a bad idea either. And this can be pretty informal. It can just simply be selecting a hilly route and doesn't necessarily need to be hill repeats to get the benefits.

Right. I understand that we need to work on one thing at a time. I'm working on 10k pace right now because I'm doing Olympic distances this summer. Do you still think a proper tempo run should be 10 miles for a 10k? I guess I was thinking I could do two miles warm up, two miles at 10k pace, two miles cool down. My "long" runs are between 8-11 miles. It seems to me that my running fitness could handle that six mile "tempo" run. Do you disagree?

No...I don't disagree. I think if you do a little shorter version, as you defined above and take the WU and CD seriously, it's alright.

Do you know what your threshold pace is? (85% V02 max) Why I am asking is because you don't want to do that tempo too fast. For me, a 10K pace would be on the fast end for a tempo run.

 Also, Felicia, how many MPW are you @ typically? 

That one is probably ok to fit in if your recent longer runs have gone well, I only looked at the volume. There haven't been as many longer runs more recently, but you have had several of tempo workout length in the same week and a bigger one in there. (Looking at the calender instead of the blog can be very helpful in seeing this kind of thing) Like Adrienne, I wonder about the pace as well, but this can vary by individual. I look at them based off of threshold effort as opposed to a race pace. With race pace, the effort changes as the ability of the runner changes. 10k would be harder than I'd like to run a tempo, more in range of cruise intervals. But wouldn't be at as high of an effort for someone at say an hour for the race.

Also, I see this as a 2 mile tempo run as that is the size of the tempo. You'll want to be mindful of both that and the overall size of the workout. The tempo is the focus. The warm-up is to get you ready to run that, so is whatever you need to do so you're ready at the start. Then the cool-down to help bring your body back down. So it would be a 6 mile run with a 2 mile tempo.

2013-06-05 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by KansasMom "Long" run tonight. It was lovely, after the first 20 minutes or so. Man, I hate that first part of a run. I wanted to stay in town, so I ran eight different streets. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy greeting my neighbors and looking at their houses, but I sure wish I had some better sights to see sometimes -- like a nice long, quiet trail. My husband called me while I was running. He's in Chicago. He said, "Don't you wish you were running on the Lake Shore Trail instead?" I sure did!!!

That's a must for me, and part of why I plan to fly into CHI for Nationals. 

Beautiful sights while running are the best. I plan many-o routes just to see things. But it's the unplanned surprises that I really love.

 

Speaking of unplanned surprises, I got bit by a poodle this morning. That is indeed a first.

Lot's of beautiful runs down here in my neck of the woods.. wink, wink.    

2013-06-05 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by QueenZipp Jogo made me swim tonight.  I thought I had picked a shorter set.  Wondered why it was taking me so long.  Got home and realized I did 3000 yards.  OOPH.

Awesome!  Way to go.

2013-06-05 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by ponderingfox Here's my race report from Sunday.

Awesome job.  Was this your first Triathlon?  



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Originally posted by QueenZipp Jogo made me swim tonight.  I thought I had picked a shorter set.  Wondered why it was taking me so long.  Got home and realized I did 3000 yards.  OOPH.

Now how to trick yourself into doing that more often? Wink

2013-06-05 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by 4agoodlife Holy smoke!!! That was the latest bit of training I've done in years. Didn't start my jogo until 9:20. eeek. Had to cut it short and only did 3.25mi, going up the main road and back. I felt good keeping to my 1:4 plan. Hit my run minute three times going up some good hills, twice on fairly flats and twice downhill...oh boy! Best part? I felt like a speedy manatee for 7/38ths of my run :D

This made me laugh so hard.  7/38's  Love it!  

2013-06-05 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by brigby1
Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by 4agoodlife Ok, I have decided I need to work on speeding up on my runs. So far, for a year, I have pretty much just gone out and run... slowly. No plan (let the pod eye rolling commence). No real goal, except get back home or not fall of the treadmill. I need to change that. Jogo tonight was 1:4 run/walk on the 4.6mi loop. Did it in 57:41. Looked at my min by min and was happy to see that my fastest run minute was at 51. I'm going to do this for the week and then fully run it on Sat or Sun. Not expecting to see a difference, but curious how it feels. I'll do some research when I get home next week for which plan I want to use.

Erin, what did your research yield? I am far from fast, but the few times I have worked on speed, it has been by adding a harder run once a week. I have to focus on it, and work on it, but if I hit it consistently for a couple of months, I'll see improvement. My four factors for running improvements are:

  • Base Build
  • More Running
  • Speed work (once every 7-10 days)
  • Mental Focus

Like I said, I am FAR from an expert, but that is what has helped this old body improve. I am currently in a speed cycle, for about 3 more weeks. Then it is back to running for the sake of running for a bit, give the ole legs a chance to catch up.

Scouts Running Tips

For both of you, would recommend continuing to build up run volume. That has been the biggest determining factor for my improvement. For faster running, maybe some strides at most. If you don't know what those are, pick either of say 70-100 yds or 30 seconds, and pick up the pace for that. Build into say 5k pace or so throughout that time/distance. This is not a sprint, but a way to get more used to running faster without adding much stress. I tend to do them throughout a run, but others will find a flat, straight section of road (or a track) and do them there.

I'm not really sure the run volume is quite there for much other work, such as a tempo. For anything like that or various intervals you want to be well warmed up beforehand. That usually takes a couple miles. Then some easy running afterward, and this is already at about what a "normal" run might be for each of you. Then to do enough "speed" to be useful, you'd have to make this a relatively long run. I'm not too big on that as you're stressing yourself by both distance AND intensity in the same run. That will be a big physiological cost. This is not to say one should only ever do easy pace in the long run, but rather to generally try and keep the main speed work separate from the long run.

Something else that can help is the use of hills. The uphill can help develop more power without as much impact. Do be careful on the downhills though. Take it easy at first. Scout had recommended only going faster on ones that are 3% grade or less (matching my experience as well). I'd say take it easy on all of them for now and get used to working the uphill. The downhill can be helpful, but it can also be a lot harder as you're falling farther vertically with each step, more so as you go faster.

Chris- no research yet. Still in Kansas til next week. Thanks for the link! I'll see if it isn't too bad to read on my phone screen. Ben- Thank you for the thoughtful advice/ tips. I will definitely keep them in mind! yep, I need to add volume. And I know that's going to have to be part of my plan to improve my speed...just need to find a plan and commit to it. I've had ACL replacement and patellar realignment on my left knee, and it gets achy and sore still even after 12 years. My stride is pretty uneven :/ I'm hoping that my consistent trainer time will help build up my muscle and cardio without the impact of running (I know it can't replace run ).

I was told that in order to more closely mimick road running while on a trainer - set the incline to 1.5 or so. 

Not sure if that's true or not... maybe some of our running pro's could chime in.  

2013-06-05 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by ponderingfox I need to get a race belt.  Anyone have recommendations?
Mine is a no name brand that cost me $15 at the local tri shop, works fine.

Tri shop - what's that?  LOL  We don't have any "tri" shops around here.  Very little tri gear available anywhere.  Running shops - bike shops just don't carry very much.  I'm so jealous of all these places that have a lot of triathletes.  

2013-06-05 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by MadMathemagician

I haven't fell off the face of the earth nor have I found my way to the antipodes.     I'm working 40 hrs a week as a life guard and  and tutoring in our math/science learning center for another 20.      Basically working 60 hrs a week and that all in five days.   I have weekends free but for about the first time in my life I'm using it for what it was originally intended for which is to rest and to play.    I still am getting an occasional workout in  but most are only about 30 minutes in duration.  I do get a long bike ride  in on Saturday or Sunday.   A perk of being a lifeguard is that I can get a swim in at work when I'm on my break.

Sarah is working too so our play days are on Saturday.    We swim for fun, sail, or just cruise the country side.   There are events to attend this summer like the Helen Keller festival in Tuscumbia,   the W.C. Handy festival in Florence, and so on.

The summer is shaping up nicely.

I was wondering where you were.  I hate how work interferes with my triathlon training.    

Enjoy those weekends, and keep us updated.  



2013-06-05 1:05 PM
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Originally posted by Muskrat37
Originally posted by 4agoodlife Chris- no research yet. Still in Kansas til next week. Thanks for the link! I'll see if it isn't too bad to read on my phone screen. Ben- Thank you for the thoughtful advice/ tips. I will definitely keep them in mind! yep, I need to add volume. And I know that's going to have to be part of my plan to improve my speed...just need to find a plan and commit to it. I've had ACL replacement and patellar realignment on my left knee, and it gets achy and sore still even after 12 years. My stride is pretty uneven :/ I'm hoping that my consistent trainer time will help build up my muscle and cardio without the impact of running (I know it can't replace run ).

I was told that in order to more closely mimick road running while on a trainer - set the incline to 1.5 or so. 

Not sure if that's true or not... maybe some of our running pro's could chime in.  

Most people will use a trainer for their bike and a treadmill to run on? Sealed

The slight incline has helped a little for treadmill running, but still not quite the same. I tend to look more at what I want to get out of the workout as opposed to exactly matching this theoretical road. What roads are people running on that are perfectly flat all the way through anyway?

2013-06-05 1:06 PM
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There is a discussion on speed work on this weeks Marathon Talk pod cast. http://marathontalk.com/.In the show notes there are aile of different speed sessions also.
2013-06-05 1:08 PM
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Woo Hoo Manatee's.  I figured out how to upload routes from my Cardio Trainer App.  It overlays on Google, and now gives me my total elevation gain.  As a numbers geek, this makes me immensely happy.  

Checkout my log from yesterday - you can click on the bike - then click on the map and see where I ride.  At the bottom portion of the map, is an elevation chart.  Now if it would overlay speeds on there, that would be the bomb!  

2013-06-05 1:33 PM
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It was my second. First OWS, though.
2013-06-05 1:41 PM
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I have a tri shop that's semi-local. I might stop by there on Sunday and check it out. I also want to try on some wet suits. There's something else I want to look at, but I forget.


2013-06-05 2:46 PM
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Is anyone else seeing ads inserted into posts, distorting them?  I think it started yesterday and is about driving me mad.  OK, so I was already most of the way there...
2013-06-05 3:12 PM
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Originally posted by melbo55 Is anyone else seeing ads inserted into posts, distorting them?  I think it started yesterday and is about driving me mad.  OK, so I was already most of the way there...

I haven't seen any - yet.  

2013-06-05 3:22 PM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Great job to the racing Manatees this weekend (I know the weekend is over but yesterday was a holiday here so its only just done for me)! I've been reading some running stuff and I now need some advice as to whether I am in the realm of possibility or not with a goal I have. So my goal is to run the HM at the Perth city2surf at the end of August (12weeks away). I have the Hal Higdon beginner HM 12 week plan which has 3 run days a week. The thing that has got me questioning it is that the weekly mileage seems to increase very quickly. Also, and this is probably the biggest thing, the 4k run that I did last weekend is the longest run that I have ever done. I don't have a very strong running base and my training has been a bit haphazard so i am already struggling to do the distances that are on the plan. I know that the Manatee motto is JUST DO EEEET, but is this the best option or should I work on the running base and do the 10km instead? Should I be running shorter distances and running more often? Am I just over thinking this and need to just HTFU and do it? I want to do this event but I want to do it properly and enjoy it not suffer my way through it and I also want to run it not ran/walk it.

I know it has been said a thousand times, so I'll give you my advice through a little story.  

As most of you know, I just started running in July 2011.  I started running to lose weight, and I couldn't run 1 mile on a treadmill. I grew up pretty athletic, so my endurance came back very quickly.  It was like my body was saying "It's about time, now lets run!"  

I did my first ever 10K in November of that year, and I ran it in 47:47!  That time will forever be engraved in my mind, because it was so much faster than any of my training runs.  A 7:41 pace, when only 3 months earlier I couldn't run 1 mile.  I was so pumped I immediately set my sights on a sub 7:00 min mile for a 10K.  It's only 41 seconds per mile right?  How hard could that be?  

Oh stupid, stupid Skrat.  

So 2 days later, I decided when I was training, I was going to run faster during my training runs.  1 day after that, I decided I was going to run more days per week.  I started running fast and often.  I bumped up my mileage and my frequency very rapidly, and I felt great.  I was going to be the next age group running sensation!  I also registered for a 1/2 marathon on New Years eve that year.  

I was so good about training.  So motivated.  I kept running fast and often.  

Then about 3 weeks before my 1/2 marathon, my Achilles Tendon started getting sore.  I told myself to HTFU!  Get out there and run.  However, it got sore enough that I was limping around on it during the day.  I got a boot and immobilized it for a few days.  I decided that I had built up enough to go do my 1/2 marathon, so I didn't run for 2 weeks before my first 1/2 marathon.  

New Years Eve rolls around, and I'm so excited to go crush my first 1/2 marathon.  I start running, and I'm feeling great.  The legs were fresh.  I lined up with the 8:00 min mile group, and the gun went off.  "Geez, these people are running slow" I thought to myself. So I picked up my pace and started flying by all the "slowpokes."  I was picking them off 1 at a time.  I found my calling. The next running sensation had arrived!  Mile after mile, I felt great.  Then I hit mile 8.  

Whapp!  It was like I got hit in the tendon with a baseball bat.  All of a sudden, I couldn't hardly run.  But I was determined that I would not walk any portion of this 1/2 marathon, so I kept running.  My pace went from about 7:40 per mile to about 12:00 min per mile, but I KEPT RUNNING, because that was one of my goals.  

I finished, in a time of 2:04:00.  I was very disappointed, because my goal was under 2 hours.  I did not have the sense of accomplishment I thought I would, and worst of all, my Achilles Tendon hurt like hell.  

The next day I had a red swollen knot on my Achilles Tendon.  It was located about 4 inches above my ankle, and people who saw it were really worried.  They had never seen anything like that.  It hurt like hell just to walk.  Running was out of the question.  

I had to take 3 months off of running, and when I resumed, I was back to running less than 1 mile.  For months I was paranoid about my Achilles Tendon anytime it felt even a little sore.  

Should you jump from 2.5 miles to 13 miles in only 12 weeks?  Fachmie! NO!!  Or should I say No Faching way?!  

Take it easy, build to a 10K first.  Your 1/2 marathon will be waiting for you when you are ready to go kick it's azz without injuring yourself.  

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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

Originally posted by melbo55 Is anyone else seeing ads inserted into posts, distorting them?  I think it started yesterday and is about driving me mad.  OK, so I was already most of the way there...

Yes, I've seen it for awhile. Annoying.

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