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2013-04-26 8:35 AM in reply to: #4715675 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed RunningYogini - 2013-04-26 12:17 AM How would you differentiate the pain experienced between "ouchie-something-is-wrong" and "ouchie-I-need-to-stretch-more". A friend of mine that is ramping up her running for a half marathon has been foam rolling her IT band. She asked this question. Her half mary is in 2 weeks. I'm not sure how to respond. Foam rolling is uncomfortable but not excruciating. She is not a lifetime athlete so is not accustomed to discomfort. What's your opinion, Junkies? Its kind of something you have to figure out, but generally stabby pain is bad. Tightness and a more dull pain seems to indicate a less severe problem. As for the foam roller, I have one of these https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_R8p1gkfOqt7iPXNsBDjsVf2dPAQ8BejHEdiFYVt9w95TjKKbhg and when I toll my IT band it can almost be paralyzingly painful at first. If it feels better after rolling you're doing it right. Another key is to roll BEFORE you have a problem. I roll almost every night now, keeps my IT band issues at bay, and hurts much much less. |
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2013-04-26 12:25 PM in reply to: #4542598 |
Extreme Veteran 1123 Sidney, Ohio | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Interesting view on what causes certain types of running injury. Intensity or Volume, (not sure how pasting a link from my phone will work, but....http://m.runnersworld.com/injury-prevention-recovery/your-injury-caused-pace-or-distance?cm_mmc=Twitter-_-RunnersWorld-_-Content-News-_-InjuryPaceDistance |
2013-04-26 1:56 PM in reply to: #4716385 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed mambos - 2013-04-26 12:25 PM Interesting view on what causes certain types of running injury. Intensity or Volume, (not sure how pasting a link from my phone will work, but....http://m.runnersworld.com/injury-prevention-recovery/your-injury-caused-pace-or-distance?cm_mmc=Twitter-_-RunnersWorld-_-Content-News-_-InjuryPaceDistance
that is very interesting! |
2013-04-26 11:30 PM in reply to: #4542598 |
Elite 3913 far northern CA | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed I was wheezing during my short run this evening. I never wheeze! I had pneumonia 2 years ago. I wheezed then. It was really weird. I've been ridiculously tired, too. I'm going to forego tomorrow's long bike ride and take a semi-rest day. I might even pull out the inhaler....just in case. On another note....my foot hasn't been hurting while running AT ALL!!!! I'm so excited! I'm feeling like a runner again! I'm enjoying my easy runs, too. No pressure to do any speed work. No pressure to run hills. I'm having FUN! |
2013-04-27 12:17 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Expert 1151 Las Vegas, NV | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed 30 mins walk/run today. 20 mins on the elliptical |
2013-04-27 5:47 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
NH | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Foam rolling a really sore IT band is pretty painful for me. However, knowing the difference between pain and injury is important. If it hurts more and more when you're using it, or as Matt says there are sharp pains, I'd be suspicious.No foot pain good, wheezing bad. I hope the rest day takes care of it.Today I take the P2 for her maiden voyage outside. I can't wait. |
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2013-04-27 6:13 AM in reply to: #4716385 |
Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed mambos - 2013-04-26 12:25 PM Interesting view on what causes certain types of running injury. Intensity or Volume, (not sure how pasting a link from my phone will work, but....http://m.runnersworld.com/injury-prevention-recovery/your-injury-caused-pace-or-distance?cm_mmc=Twitter-_-RunnersWorld-_-Content-News-_-InjuryPaceDistance I can't see the article. It takes me to a page to order the magazine. This happens every time I try to look up anything from Runners World. Annoying. |
2013-04-27 6:16 AM in reply to: #4716993 |
Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed RunningYogini - 2013-04-26 11:30 PM I was wheezing during my short run this evening. I never wheeze! I had pneumonia 2 years ago. I wheezed then. It was really weird. I've been ridiculously tired, too. I'm going to forego tomorrow's long bike ride and take a semi-rest day. I might even pull out the inhaler....just in case. On another note....my foot hasn't been hurting while running AT ALL!!!! I'm so excited! I'm feeling like a runner again! I'm enjoying my easy runs, too. No pressure to do any speed work. No pressure to run hills. I'm having FUN! Hope that wheezing is just allergies or something and really great news about your foot! You did do some crazy hard hill stuff last year. Glad you've come around to the dark side - easy is good LOL. |
2013-04-27 6:35 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Well our first local sprint race is tomorrow but I'm missing it this year. This is the race that was my first ever and always starts off my tri season but I'm actually not too bothered by it because I don't love the course - pool swim, 2 loop bike with part of it along a busy 2 lane highway where we have to ride in the shoulder and look our for rocks then cross the same highway 2 times to get on and off the course. I just never really relax on this bike route. I'm not going this year because I don't want to run too hard and screw up my foot again for the rest of the season. I have jogged twice this week and so far my foot is hanging in there. But mentally I am having a hard time moving past this latest foot problem, like I don't believe I am really fine. I keep feeling like the pain is going to come back at any minute or expecting it to hurt. I have to remind myself it really does not hurt. The best news is I have not taken any NASIDS all week. Is it bad that my dog has been away at training for 5 days and I don't miss him?! Ha ha ha, we stopped in to check on his progress yesterday. The trainer said "he is doing o.k". Oh so not the glowing report I was hoping for. She says he is just a young pup and has a lot of energy. Well no kidding! You don't have to tell me that! Have a great weekend everyone!!! |
2013-04-27 8:05 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Jackie glad to see you get in a good workout, keep it up. Tracy glad to hear that your foot is doing well and that you are enjoying your runs. I hope that wheezing really is nothing and hope your feeling alright. Warren enjoy the maiden voyage on the P2 this weekend. Did you name her yet? Dina sorry to hear that you aren't doing that Tri this weekend but it sounds like you don't miss it much so it doesn't matter. I had to laugh out loud when I read about your dog. That sounds just like my dog LOL. Well I am finally going to get the bike off the trainer and out for a ride. I am hitting the hills of the north shore of Long Island tomorrow with a group of my tri friends. I can't wait to see if I can keep up with these guys because I know they are all good on the bike and they ride hard and it will beat being on the trainer for 3 hours. It's supposed to be 70 degrees tomorrow so it should be great weather for this ride. I'm gonna hammer away when I get out there. |
2013-04-27 8:55 AM in reply to: #4717042 |
NH | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed trigal38 - 2013-04-27 7:13 AM mambos - 2013-04-26 12:25 PM Interesting view on what causes certain types of running injury. Intensity or Volume, (not sure how pasting a link from my phone will work, but....http://m.runnersworld.com/injury-prevention-recovery/your-injury-caused-pace-or-distance?cm_mmc=Twitter-_-RunnersWorld-_-Content-News-_-InjuryPaceDistance I can't see the article. It takes me to a page to order the magazine. This happens every time I try to look up anything from Runners World. Annoying. That is annoying. It's a short article, so here it is: You've probably heard that many running injuries stem from "training errors," or increasing mileage or intensity too quickly. Is it possible to fine-tune that admittedly broad diagnosis? Is it possible to categorize running injuries by whether distance or speed is the more likely culprit? Danish researchers think so. Writing in the International Journal of Sports Physical Therapy, they analyzed 2,002 running-related injuries described in other studies. Their goal, using clinical and biomechanical information on the injuries, was to look for underlying commonalities in the training of the people who had the injuries. For about half of the injuries, the researchers found no such commonalities. Among these were medial tibial stress syndrome (AKA shin splints), and hamstring, hip adductor, and iliopsoas injuries. For the remaining half, however, the researchers felt confident in classifying the injury as related to training volume or training intensity. According to the researchers, the common knee injuries of patellofemoral pain syndrome (AKA runner's knee), iliotibial band syndrome, and patellar tendinopathy are related to training volume, not intensity. In contrast, the common lower-leg injuries of plantar fasciitis, Achilles tendinitis, and calf strains are related to training intensity, not volume, the researchers say. As the researchers note, these injuries are more common in competitive runners who do a higher percentage of their mileage at a fast pace than they are in recreational runners. The faster running, such as 400-meter repeats on the track, places greater strain on the tissues of the feet and lower legs than does easy running. Do these categorizations matter beyond a well-that's-interesting conclusion? Potentially. After all, when many runners ramp up their training, such as when pointing toward a marathon, they increase mileage and intensity simultaneously. This study suggests that if you have knee problems while doing so, you may have upped your mileage too quickly. Conversely, if your knees are fine but your calf, Achilles or plantar fascia start hurting, your body may be okay with your mileage increase, but isn't yet ready to handle the increased intensity.
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2013-04-27 9:15 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Expert 1151 Las Vegas, NV | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Dina-I can relate to how hard it is to have a puppy. They do get better. Our dog, Honey, literally chewed everything in sight and, magically, when she hit the age of 2 she just mellowed out (the opposite of kids )and never chewed anything. She was an awesome dog and running companion. We had to put her down this year as she became sick with cancer. We still wanted a dog, but there was no way I was doing the puppy thing again at that point. So we adopted a 5 year old beagle mix, Nacho. He has been awesome since day one. Totally house broken, never jumps...however not the best running companion. We ran about a block and then he was over it. Locked his legs and made it very clear that he was settling the pace which was a leisurely stroll He is great to cuddle with but doesn't really play with the kids (if you throw a frisbee, he just looks at you). Sorry rambling now. Good luck with the puppy training. Hope the school helps.
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2013-04-27 5:40 PM in reply to: #4542598 |
Expert 1439 Tallahassee | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Well seeing ya'll post about dogs, ours is a wire haired dachshund...well he has a herniated disk. They gave him some pain med and and anti-inflammatory to see if it works. If not...... The sad thing is he is the best dog for us, he is really a people person dog and loves everyone. Well today I rode my bike 1hr and 15 minutes to a 10K run, then rode home. It was very hilly to and from the race. Got there just in time to go potty (thank goodness it started 5 minutes late). Ran it in 51 minutes and ???? seconds. They did give out sampls of 3Plenish, I drank it on the way home and it was good. It was so HOT on the way home, I drank the enttire bottle in an hour. I will definitely buy some. The other thing, my toe beside my big toe is a little longer than my big toe and i have been having problems with it, so it is hurting now but will make an appt for a podiatrist Monday but it may take weeks to get in. Dina, I had the same problem w/ Runners world and we are members...lol Tony, let us know how your ride went, Warren thanks for the article and enjoy your ride too. Everyone taining and racing, have fun. Dirk, have you made up your mind about Boston? |
2013-04-27 8:01 PM in reply to: #4542598 |
Expert 1151 Las Vegas, NV | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Karl- Great workout! Hope things work out with your dog. Took the kids to the pool today and while I was there, I looked over at the lap pool and started thinking about going back...I decided to go back one day this coming week and see where I'm at. I might try doing 75 yrds easy & 25 yrds hard and just see how many times I can repeat it as my first workout back. I'll let you know what happens & then would love ideas for getting my swimming back to the point where I might be able to follow a plan. |
2013-04-27 9:40 PM in reply to: #4717123 |
Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed jpbis26 - 2013-04-27 9:15 AM Dina-I can relate to how hard it is to have a puppy. They do get better. Our dog, Honey, literally chewed everything in sight and, magically, when she hit the age of 2 she just mellowed out (the opposite of kids )and never chewed anything. She was an awesome dog and running companion. We had to put her down this year as she became sick with cancer. We still wanted a dog, but there was no way I was doing the puppy thing again at that point. So we adopted a 5 year old beagle mix, Nacho. He has been awesome since day one. Totally house broken, never jumps...however not the best running companion. We ran about a block and then he was over it. Locked his legs and made it very clear that he was settling the pace which was a leisurely stroll He is great to cuddle with but doesn't really play with the kids (if you throw a frisbee, he just looks at you). Sorry rambling now. Good luck with the puppy training. Hope the school helps.
Not rambling at all! I'm the one always rambling about the puppy. Our old dog had to be put down in December and I swore I would not get a puppy again. Another nice 3 or 4 year old dog would be perfect. Well I went to 3 different animal shelters, got climbed on, licked on, pooped on then had a text that my chiro was giving away a litter of puppies and here we are. The puppy is part lab and part border collie which = a very smart, energetic dog who can't stop looking for something to eat! |
2013-04-27 9:44 PM in reply to: #4717391 |
Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed KWDreamun - 2013-04-27 5:40 PM Well seeing ya'll post about dogs, ours is a wire haired dachshund...well he has a herniated disk. They gave him some pain med and and anti-inflammatory to see if it works. If not...... The sad thing is he is the best dog for us, he is really a people person dog and loves everyone. Well today I rode my bike 1hr and 15 minutes to a 10K run, then rode home. It was very hilly to and from the race. Got there just in time to go potty (thank goodness it started 5 minutes late). Ran it in 51 minutes and ???? seconds. They did give out sampls of 3Plenish, I drank it on the way home and it was good. It was so HOT on the way home, I drank the enttire bottle in an hour. I will definitely buy some. The other thing, my toe beside my big toe is a little longer than my big toe and i have been having problems with it, so it is hurting now but will make an appt for a podiatrist Monday but it may take weeks to get in. Dina, I had the same problem w/ Runners world and we are members...lol Tony, let us know how your ride went, Warren thanks for the article and enjoy your ride too. Everyone taining and racing, have fun. Dirk, have you made up your mind about Boston? Karl that breaks my heart to hear about your dog. I still go over the last days with my old Maggie and the kids continue to want to hear about her last moments with us, talk about what a good girl she was etc. Hopefully the meds will help. Nice training today! Sounds like a great workout. I really don't think I remember what it feels like to be too hot. It sounds pretty good to me. We had more rain and 50's today but at least the winds were calm. |
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2013-04-27 10:27 PM in reply to: #4717391 |
Extreme Veteran 872 Tx | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Karl, what is 3plenish? Is it like infinit? |
2013-04-28 4:37 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Expert 1439 Tallahassee | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Jackie, get in the pool...and good luck..... Will 3Plenish I think is like Infinit, it has carbs, amino acid for recovery and a little sugar. It tasted good to me and I had energy to ride home...lol Planning on running to the gym today after church BUT right now my toe is stinging like it may be broken...I'm icing it right now as I type. http://www.completenutrition.com/sports-nutrition/supplements/3plenish/3plenish/ Hopefully that linked. Edited by KWDreamun 2013-04-28 5:03 AM |
2013-04-28 6:15 AM in reply to: #4716542 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed dmiller5 - 2013-04-26 2:56 PM mambos - 2013-04-26 12:25 PM Interesting view on what causes certain types of running injury. Intensity or Volume, (not sure how pasting a link from my phone will work, but....http://m.runnersworld.com/injury-prevention-recovery/your-injury-caused-pace-or-distance?cm_mmc=Twitter-_-RunnersWorld-_-Content-News-_-InjuryPaceDistance
that is very interesting! Interesting indeed. It makes me wonder a little about my PF and how exactly I came by it. I may go as far as looking back at al of my logs to find any consistencies that would concur with the article. It was a very brief article but seemed to provide a couple of really good snip-its of information. |
2013-04-28 6:23 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed Warren thanks for posting the article. Interesting indeed. I'm fairly certain my current foot issue is from increase in intensity on the treadmill. Now I just wish knowing what caused the problem would also make it go away ! |
2013-04-28 6:52 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Extreme Veteran 868 Racine, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed I am in for next session Matt, not sure when your race is so... I hope you had a great race or. Good luck today. Sam I sure hope this week helps your elbow Iam sure you have tried everything but icing always seems to help. Jackie that is so awesome that your hubby is going to do the HM with you. Dirk I say go for it, have you decided yet? Tracy I am hoping it is just allergies. Tony how did the ride go with your group? Karl wow biking to your race? That's awesome. Sorry about your dog poor thing. I will try to get some pictures up; but yesterday during my ride I notice that on my right side every so often my knee would bump my elbow when I am in aero Iam thinking I need to move my seat back? And on a side note this is the first ride, probably ever, that I didn't have or felt like I was gonna have a melt down, in the past I did so much bad self talk. I followed my bike with a run and was able to do a 10:54 which i know for some of you is like oh my god slow, but for me this is 1:16 off my pace from anything i ran last year. I think I finally have the confidence that I am strong enough to do this, and it feels pretty great! |
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2013-04-28 7:05 AM in reply to: #4715675 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed RunningYogini - 2013-04-26 1:17 AM How would you differentiate the pain experienced between "ouchie-something-is-wrong" and "ouchie-I-need-to-stretch-more". A friend of mine that is ramping up her running for a half marathon has been foam rolling her IT band. She asked this question. Her half mary is in 2 weeks. I'm not sure how to respond. Foam rolling is uncomfortable but not excruciating. She is not a lifetime athlete so is not accustomed to discomfort. What's your opinion, Junkies? What has worked for me with relative success is getting serious about finding the specific movements that effect the particularly tender body part. Doing specific movements that can provide more insight to exactly pinpoint they area in question and what kind of movements seem to have the most impact on pain. But, truth be told, most injuries result from overuse, rather than sudden trauma and without a single, obvious trigger, it can prove difficult to accurately and correctly pinpoint the pain's source. More specifically, it the difference between injury and stretching is determined by the persistence of the injury. If I have been noticing something for a few work outs then more stretching will begin to focus on that particular area. If that does not provide immediate, temporary relief then I begin to consider other avenues. If the stretching provides immediate, temporary relief I will continue to stretch but pay very close and specific attention to the affected part. If the pain remains persistent even after the stretching focus, I will begin to alter my training. |
2013-04-28 7:29 AM in reply to: #4717391 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed KWDreamun - 2013-04-27 6:40 PM The other thing, my toe beside my big toe is a little longer than my big toe and i have been having problems with it, so it is hurting now but will make an appt for a podiatrist Monday but it may take weeks to get in. A little more info about your toe is needed before you go to the doc, in my opinion. Have you changed shoes to a different model, brand or size? If the answer is yes to any or all of the above, it could be that the shoes aren't fitted properly. The toe box could be a little to narrow or the shoes are a little small on your feet. Have you been running route that have a little more down hill sections? Have you slightly changed the way you plant your feet? If you have been running down hill more, your feet could be sliding forward in your shoes a little more cramming your toes toward the end of your shoe. Another cause could that you have altered your gait slightly to land under your hips to much causing you to push your foot forward with each stride. If this is the case you would likely hear the tread on your shoe make a scuffing sound with the shoe tread against the running surface on the affected foot. It's not something that you are likely to notice while you are running unless you pay close attention. Here is a picture of my current foot condition. I developed the middle black toe running downhill at Boston. The second toe has been a fixture sine November of 2011 during my BQ attempts. |
2013-04-28 7:31 AM in reply to: #4717478 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed jpbis26 - 2013-04-27 9:01 PM Karl- Great workout! Hope things work out with your dog. Took the kids to the pool today and while I was there, I looked over at the lap pool and started thinking about going back...I decided to go back one day this coming week and see where I'm at. I might try doing 75 yrds easy & 25 yrds hard and just see how many times I can repeat it as my first workout back. I'll let you know what happens & then would love ideas for getting my swimming back to the point where I might be able to follow a plan. Small steps are great! Make sure you lets us know how you do. It's could be that you surprise yourself and are able to do more than you thought. Either way, it will be a successful trip because you are taking those first steps. |
2013-04-28 8:07 AM in reply to: #4542598 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: Asphalt Junkies Spring 2013 - Closed ..........And to answer the question I am sure many of you are waiting to hear............ I am not going to attempt to run Boston next year. And honestly until actually seeing it written here, now, I was alright with it. The decision came during a conversation with Lis yesterday morning. She has a unique way of being able to communicate with me and keep me from getting of track, emotionally and physically. She was able to make me see some of the things I had been inwardly discussing and reviewing myself, yet I hadn't made mention to her any of these points. (She amazes me with how well she knows me sometimes.) Very briefly, here are some of the points we discussed yesterday:
Above all of these point are the effects and emotional responses of my family. After the Boston events my family had a differing response than I. I was in a "go to war" emotional state, while Lis and the girls were in a shocked state that I can still see remnants of. I am not sure that they would be able to make the trip in a sound state of mind. I feel they would be constantly checking around the corners, so to speak, and never be comfortable. I don't think I could really enjoy the race or actually even think of things other than how they would feel for 4+ hours. I am unwilling to put them "out there" for my emotional response to figuratively get back at cowards. So, I am choosing to wave my hand of defiance at every race I compete in this season to violate the evil acts of cowards. I will run Boston again! At this point I have no specific time frame but I won't allow my race to have been tarnished by fools and cowards. I can redeem that which was, by attempt only, taken from me and again run the streets of Boston. |
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