Milaminute and Sparco's Group - Closed (Page 11)

Mmmmm... souvlaki. 

Roses?  Watching t.v. together?  Cheesecake.  I hope the roses were pink .  Glad you made it home safe and sound.

Enjoy the swim tomorrow. 

Souvlaki was delicious.  Roses were peach-colored (in honor of GA).  Yes we watched TV together.  No cheesecake.  Dear wife is sick and is trying to stay away from sweets.  Made it home safe, sound and tired.

Define enjoy.  My shoulder is a little achey breaky from hauling around luggage yesterday.  Hope to get in 2500 yds of swimming.

Good day everyone.

Hey Johnny Cash.  I always go with the people choice.  People are more important than training, especially when it comes to family and friends.

Your soreness is probably normal.  Could be a result of one-sided breathing AND getting used to swimming longer distances.  Keep working on keeping your head low in the water when you swim and breathe.  I like to picture a tow rope attached to the top of my head, pulling my body to the other end of the pool.  When you turn to breathe, if your hips are rotating so that the front of your body is facing towards the side of the pool, you really won't have to move your neck so much to breathe.  Some swimmers actually don't turn their heads much to get in a breath.  They target trying to keep one goggle in the water as they breathe.

Any swimmers out there with advice?

Good day all...

gazunteit

agreement!  just make sure you are rotating your body.  breathe however is comfortable.

if they are sore, it sounds like you are just getting used to the distance.  if it is a sharp pain, stop and reevaluate what you are doing.

if the soreness doesn't go away in a relative time frame....

Sounds like sound advice from both Sal and Adam. 

What's everyone up to???  Personally, I am about to make a Chik-fil-A run for my children who have spent the entire morning locked in the basement helping me clean up the toys in the play room.  They want a milkshake because, apparently, Chik-fil-A has the "best ever milkshakes on the planet.  It's true."  I'm not sure how exactly they did their research but I'm not up to arguing with them on this.

True dat Mila.  Had 2 chocolate shakes last time I was down in ATL.

Got my 2500 yd swim in this morning.  Haven't logged it yet though.  I broke 1:40 today on a few of my 100s...whoo hoo!

I'm at work today.  Was supposed to take today off, but I'm on a pretty high exposure project, so I had to PHYSICALLY be here for a meeting this morning.  Met with the engineer, reviewed part set-up for a test I have on January 2 (auugghhh), gonna send out a few e-mails, then I'm OUTTA HERE!

That's understandable, I'd stick with it, too .  On the other hand, you might try using HRM gel... you put it on the strap and it works a little better than spitting putting water on it.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!  I think we have a winner .  Yes, slow and steady and really, really focus on form.  Good form will increase your efficiency.  Increased efficiency means faster swims... or so I've heard, anyway .  There are some balance and rotation drills in TI that would be helpful so definitely worth reviewing.

I use my HRM in the pool and time my splits with it... if you look at my log from yesterday, I listed the time for each 100 (I needed to add this because otherwise Sal mighta tried to call me out for not doing it lately!).  I know what you mean though, you don't get all the nice feedback in the pool that you do with your computer toys on the bike and run.  I rely heavily on RPE in the pool and adjust my pacing accordingly unless there's a specific higher intensity training goal for a given swim.

Hey Cash, if you reach out as FAR AS YOU CAN on your stroke (even when your hand enters the water), this will naturally force your body to rotate.  As you reach out, your shoulder will come very close to your ear.

Try this: Stand up.  Take your right hand and reach up to the ceiling above your head.  Reach up even more.  Notice how your body rotates to your left and your shoulder is right up against your ear?  Bring your left arm up as you drop your right arm.  Notice how your torso now rotates to your right?  Do this in the water and and you'll notice how easy it is to rotate.

Ummmm... I'd tell you except that the words I'd need to use would be censored so it wouldn't make much sense .  Plus, it might make me blush...

I'll PM you some choice information to look up in the urban dictionary.

Yes, it helps; however, I personally don't use the type you buy at the LBS.  Instead I use either Bag Balm (lotion/hand cream aisle of your drug store) or Butt Paste (in the baby aisle).  Smear either one all over your chamois.

^{99 dollar tights that help you recover faster? Sounds magical! And better be spun w/24k gold! Guessing she sells them at her store.}

 ^{I'm learing all about fabric that's "moisture wicking." So I keep my eyes open for the stuff and am always looking for a good deal. Found some discount stuff at Target and Fleet Farm that works great. And it's my new favorite term. Say it, MOISTURE WICKING. It's fun! (Sorry)}

^{Heh... I bet you're right!  However, I must say that one of my favorite pairs of tights is fleece lined and fabulous and I'm sure pricey, though I honestly can't recall... I bought 'em (and a few very cool other things) about 20 seconds after this phone call: "hi, this is your boss, you rock, so you get to spend $250.00 at very well known cycling website courtesy of your employer."  I *heart* her.}

We are all very happy you've discovered moisture wicking.  It's fun to say and fun to wear... what more could you want??

What specifically is uncomfortable for you when you're in aero?

Here is the standard answer to any question regarding bike positioning:  make sure you have a proper fit .  Seriously, get your fit checked.  Sometimes even the most minor adjustment can make a huge difference.  If it's been awhile since your last fitting, it might be time for a new one.  If you only had the cursory "here's your new bike, g'head and sit on it and I'll adjust the seat" fit, you need a professional fit done.  If you're sure the bike is adjusted correctly and your position on the bike is right, then it really is a matter of getting used to it... so yes, ride LOTS.  Eventually, it should actually be more comfortable to be in aero than to not be. 

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to agree with your spin instructor a little bit (though I wouldn't ever give you the evil eye in class or suggest that you are making it easier on yourself).  The geometry of a spin bike is not close enough to the geometry of a road or tri bike to really effectively simulate riding in an aero position, in my humble opinion.  If you are just looking for more time in aero without riding outside, put your bike on a trainer at home and have at it.  At spin class, in order to optimize your workout, you always want to keep your weight centered on or over the saddle and want to refrain from leaning on the handlebars.  And yes, spin classes are great for building your cardiovascular base as well as your leg strength so I'm glad you're seeing that translate onto the road!!!!

Ooh...I finally found a point of disagreement with Mila .  Depending on the type of spin bikes used in class (LeMonds at the Y), I can bring the seat up far enough to have the nose over the center of the bottom bracket and can bring the 'aerobars' out far enough and down low enough to simulate tri bike setup.  The only thing I can't do on the Lemond is dip the nose down so that there's less pressure on the jewels.

I still stand on the bike when I can, when we do hill work, although most triathletes like to try and stay in aero position even on the hills...