kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2011 Part 2 - CLOSED (Page 120)

jarvy01 - 2011-08-04 7:42 AM

I think losing weight when you're a woman is very different from losing weight when you're a man.  I think hormones play a big role in all of it. 

Thank you for sharing, Kelly.  I think you can get your weight down to where you want it to be before IMFL.  You may just have to mix things up a bit, because your body has probably gotten very efficient at what it's doing.  Perhaps try what some of the others here have suggested - do some early morning workouts on an empty stomach, replace some of the bars and drinks with water, fruit, and nuts, etc. 

I'm on the other side of the spectrum, as I naturally restrict too much, so I feel I have a lot to learn about sports nutrition.  That's the only thing holding me back from long course racing!

Hang in there, friend!

carrie639 - 2011-08-04 8:05 AM How is potty training going and your wife's quest for the 1/2 mary?

karen26.2 - 2011-08-03 10:10 PM

What would be a good strength training workout?  And how many days a week is beneficial?  I'm all for boosting my metabolism and dropping about 10 pounds before Wisconsin.  Maybe this will help.  My problem is I get to the gym and don't really know what to do.  I need something specific to follow.

uhcoog - 2011-08-04 8:48 AM

Wow, last night was rough and then I passed out on the sofa around 9.  LOL.  All of a sudden diapers don't feel right to Abby so she's having a hard time going to sleep in an overnight diaper.

So I got to thinking about body recomposition, training fasted, etc.  Think I'm going to pull together some info, personal experiences, and observations of friends' journeys for an upcoming blog post.  Short version is that fasted cardio has been used for years by aspiring body builders to go from strong and pudgy to strong and sleek.  Basically fasted cardio upon waking and lifting in the evening.  IF you are eating correctly you should have full glycogen stores upon waking and be able to hammer out a few hours at a moderately high intensity level.  This really should train your body to be more efficient with calories and will give you the advantage of training low and racing high if you eat a good pre race meal.  The are a few drawbacks.  One is that you will be hungry your first few weeks getting used to the new setup.  Two is that you may feel sluggish during the adjustment period as well.  Lastly is that there are nutritionists and trainers who believe you're catabolic upon waking.  In additon to oxidizing fat at a faster rate, you also may burn off muscle as well.  For a lot of triathletes this isn't a major issue.

jarvy01 - 2011-08-04 8:57 AM

Questions about the wetsuit.......

So I did my first tri of the season in the wetsuit (June).  I sprinted the first 200 yds (880 total) and then started hyperventilating because my heartrate shot up so quickly.  It took some time to recover and I made it through the swim, but I was frightened of wearing it again because the panic was so intense.  I did manage to swim 1:40/100 despite panic.

Second tri I skipped the suit.  I never felt a moment's panic, and I swam the 1/4 mile at 1:35/100. 

Third tri I wore the suit, because I decided I needed the practice for Chicago.  I took off at a moderate pace with the intention of picking it up after the first 100 yds.  Never really picked it up.  Still came out of the water in the top 15% overall (third in AG) but swam 1:57/100 for a 1/4 mile.  EW.

So, I want to wear the suit for Cleveland.  I want to really push the pace this race and see what I'm made of, but I'm scared I'm going to hyperventilate again (like I did my first race). 

Do you think that was just first timer stuff?  Or do you think it could happen again?  It was really scary.  How long did it take for you to really get comfortable in your wetsuit?

Thanks, all!

 

kaburns1214 - 2011-08-04 7:49 AM

While I agree with you in principle, its just something I won't do at the moment (I know Bryan disagrees with me on this one). 

I take in nutrition when the train in exactly the same way I would on race day (practice, practice, practice).  Since I've started doing this, my GI problems on race day have decreased dramatically.  Its something I would consider post-IMFL, but for right now, I'm not willing to play with training nutrition and risk GI problems.

kaburns1214 - 2011-08-04 8:46 AM

Two thoughts here (and I'd be curious as to what Scott and Bryan think):

1. In my experience weight loss is 90% and 10% exercise, just adding stregnth training may make you stronger but I'm not sure its going to help with the weight loss.

2. You're racing IMWI in 5 weeks, training wise I don't know that adding serious stregnth training now is the best idea.  You're at your biggest weeks right now and just need to get through them, then you need to taper and actually letyou body rest and recover.  If you wantto add strength, I would do after your race.

kaburns1214 - 2011-08-04 8:49 AM

While I agree with you in principle, its just something I won't do at the moment (I know Bryan disagrees with me on this one). 

I take in nutrition when the train in exactly the same way I would on race day (practice, practice, practice).  Since I've started doing this, my GI problems on race day have decreased dramatically.  Its something I would consider post-IMFL, but for right now, I'm not willing to play with training nutrition and risk GI problems.

kaburns1214 - 2011-08-04 7:49 AM
While I agree with you in principle, its just something I won't do at the moment (I know Bryan disagrees with me on this one). 

I take in nutrition when the train in exactly the same way I would on race day (practice, practice, practice).  Since I've started doing this, my GI problems on race day have decreased dramatically.  Its something I would consider post-IMFL, but for right now, I'm not willing to play with training nutrition and risk GI problems.

kaburns1214 - 2011-08-04 7:46 AM
Two thoughts here (and I'd be curious as to what Scott and Bryan think):

1. In my experience weight loss is 90% and 10% exercise, just adding stregnth training may make you stronger but I'm not sure its going to help with the weight loss.

2. You're racing IMWI in 5 weeks, training wise I don't know that adding serious stregnth training now is the best idea.  You're at your biggest weeks right now and just need to get through them, then you need to taper and actually letyou body rest and recover.  If you wantto add strength, I would do after your race.

bryancd - 2011-08-04 12:15 PM I think it's ok to train with your palnned race day nutrition. However, you need to seriously stop eating pancakes befor long rides. What you are doing is spiking your blood sugar before you begin to excercise and then feeding your body more sugar in the form of gels and sport drinks while you train and ending with a recovery drink with lot's of sugar. Do you see a pattern here? If you want to burn fat, you have to utilize that system, which you keep shutting down before ou get out the door. You claim you don't accept calories in calories out and yet that really matters. You instead try to be more metabolic/glycemic in your diet and yet ruin that every time you do a long training session under the excuse that you need to eat pancakes becuase that how you race. BS. It's an excuse to eat food you don't need. Period. Just call it what it is. You say you want to loose weight and yet your actions say something totally different. If you are serious about loosing weight you have a choice. Keep doing what you are doing and stay right where you are, or do something different. It will have ZERO impact on your preperation for IMFL, that's just another excuse. Sorry for the tough love, but the contradictions of what you are saying vs. doing need to be addressed.

bryancd - 2011-08-04 12:17 PM 1. In general yes, it is very easy to train 15+ hours per week and still gain weight if your diet is crap. 2. Leave the weights on the rack and just S/B/R.

jarvy01 - 2011-08-04 12:40 PM Sorry...completely off topic and unrelated to triathlon, but does anyone have any tips for getting kids to ditch the training wheels?  My oldest (6) is fearful of transitioning to two wheels.  We've tried different strategies, and he won't bite.  His bike is sitting in the garage, untouched.  I put the training wheels back on it yesterday (just raised them a bit), and my husband thought that was a bad idea.  I don't know.  I figure he'll do it when he's ready.  My 4 year old wants to try and ride without her training wheels.  Do you think Conrad will be more interested and less fearful if he sees his younger sister do it? 

karen26.2 - 2011-08-04 12:46 PM

OK, I get it.  I would really like to show up on race day down a few pounds.  My diet is generally very good until night time.  Then for some reason I think I need ice cream or candy (or both!).  My husband says I have a sugar issue, and he's right, I do.  If I give that up I'd probably drop some weight without making any other changes.

I have lost about 8 pounds over the past several weeks.  The only changes I've made are I gave up coffee (I always lose weight when I stop drinking coffee???) and seriously decreased my beer intake.  Oh and increased my training of course.  Now to give up the sugar at night...

jarvy01 - 2011-08-04 12:40 PM Sorry...completely off topic and unrelated to triathlon, but does anyone have any tips for getting kids to ditch the training wheels?  My oldest (6) is fearful of transitioning to two wheels.  We've tried different strategies, and he won't bite.  His bike is sitting in the garage, untouched.  I put the training wheels back on it yesterday (just raised them a bit), and my husband thought that was a bad idea.  I don't know.  I figure he'll do it when he's ready.  My 4 year old wants to try and ride without her training wheels.  Do you think Conrad will be more interested and less fearful if he sees his younger sister do it? 

karen26.2 - 2011-08-04 12:46 PM

OK, I get it.  I would really like to show up on race day down a few pounds.  My diet is generally very good until night time.  Then for some reason I think I need ice cream or candy (or both!).  My husband says I have a sugar issue, and he's right, I do.  If I give that up I'd probably drop some weight without making any other changes.

I have lost about 8 pounds over the past several weeks.  The only changes I've made are I gave up coffee (I always lose weight when I stop drinking coffee???) and seriously decreased my beer intake.  Oh and increased my training of course.  Now to give up the sugar at night...

kaburns1214 - 2011-08-04 12:48 PM

I think he may just need to wait until he's ready.  I didn't loose the training wheels until I was 6.  My brother was riding without training wheels at 3.  To each his own.