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 2012-09-03 11:19 AM in reply to: #4393017 |
Veteran  445   Chicago, Illinois |  Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed20 miles on the bike and a 5 mile run after a rest day yesterday. Happy Labor Day everyone! Barry S 0/ B 1/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 6:10:31 |
| 2012-09-03 11:25 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1544  Alexandria, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 4 mile run this morning, tried my best to do some speedwork. Ran the first mile easy to warm up, then did the 2nd mile in 1/10th intervals. First 10th at 6:00 pace, then 2nd 10th at recovery pace and alternated back and forth for that mile. After that it took all I had left to run the last two miles home at an easy pace. Charlotte S1/B2/R1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 4:38Barry S 0/ B 1/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 6:10:31 Ernesto S 1/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 3:46:32 Mark Z S 1/B 1/R1 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 3:42:00 Mitch S 0/ B 2/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 2:21:55 Gabe S 0/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 2 Time 5:08:21 Scott S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 3:45 Joe S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Total 2 Time 3:34:4 Chris S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 0 Total 2 Time 3:18:47 Rachel S 1/ B 1/ R 0 Rest 0 Total 2 Time 1:45:44 Andy S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 2:57:42 Samy S0/B1/R0 Rest 1 Total 1 Time 1:48:11 Jim S 0/ B 0/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 1 Time 00:50:00 Jackie S 0/ B 0/ R 0 Rest 1 Total 0 Time 0:00:00
Edited by Climbinggonzo 2012-09-03 11:28 AM |
| 2012-09-03 12:41 PM in reply to: #4393056 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 4 miles easy in the rain. Legs feel fine after yesterday's long run, but I'm on the verge of losing another toenail.
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| 2012-09-03 1:43 PM in reply to: #4393134 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed swam laps while my girls played in my in laws pool.
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| 2012-09-03 2:03 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
| Maple Grove, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 8 mile easy run. Hot and humid. Found out you need to prepare for runs, at least by hydrating a little. Got up too late and noticed I had better be out running within 15 minutes, or I wouldn't get my miles in. Found out it is much better to get up at least 45 minutes before running. Oh well. Charlotte S1/B2/R1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 4:38 Mitch S 1/ B 2/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 4 Time 2:51:55 Barry S 0/ B 1/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 6:10:31 Chris S 0/ B 0/ R 3 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 4:33:05 Joe S 0/ B 0/ R 3 Total 3 Time 4:08:00 Ernesto S 1/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 3:46:32 Mark Z S 1/B 1/R1 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 3:42:00 Gabe S 0/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 2 Time 5:08:21 Scott S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 3:45 Andy S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 2:57:42 Rachel S 1/ B 1/ R 0 Rest 0 Total 2 Time 1:45:44 Samy S0/B1/R0 Rest 1 Total 1 Time 1:48:11 Jim S 0/ B 0/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 1 Time 00:50:00 Jackie S 0/ B 0/ R 0 Rest 1 Total 0 Time 0:00:00 |
| 2012-09-03 3:30 PM in reply to: #4393211 |
Extreme Veteran 692 England | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Day 3 is in the bag. Not quite the gentle recovery ride that I'd been promised, but my legs still feel better for it. Hopefully they'll keep getting better and I'll get my fitness back fairly fast. Charlotte - congrats on your impressive effort this weekend. Sorry to hear the OLY didn't go so well, but the rest all sounds good. Charlotte S1/B2/R1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 4:38 |
| 2012-09-03 4:47 PM in reply to: #4393301 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 1.225 ows 34:15 about 1ft breaking waves made it kind of fun. Charlotte S1/B2/R1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 4:38 |
| 2012-09-03 4:54 PM in reply to: #4393134 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed JoePetto - 2012-09-03 12:41 PM 4 miles easy in the rain. Legs feel fine after yesterday's long run, but I'm on the verge of losing another toenail. I thought I was a freak after my marathon this Spring when I lost four of them. Then I read a quote on why do triathlons "who needs toenails anyway." I don't recall who said, but I have been getting busted on by my kids all Summer. |
| 2012-09-03 5:57 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1255 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Had a PR going when I started the run. Today's race was a nutrition learning experience. I think I'm not supposed to mix simple sugars (GU and honey stinger gels) with Perpeteum, Heed and Endurolytes. From mile 3.5 of the run, all I wanted to do is throw up and I was pretty much walking because I was afraid I would. Didn't want to eat after the race, but did eat a little. Charlotte S1/B2/R1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 4:38 |
| 2012-09-03 6:29 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Rode with the boys but made a point to pull the train for the entire way. Didn't stick with the plan which was to go four hours easy... Oh well, emotions! Ernesto S 1/ B 2/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 6:57:08 |
| 2012-09-03 6:40 PM in reply to: #4392736 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Matthews - 2012-09-03 1:59 AM No workout for today. Had a look and tried on some Newtons. Any one got any good or bad experiences with them. I was read an article the other day that said its no use having big heal support when you land on the middle of your foot. I looked at my runners and the heel is like new but not the middle. Are newton( or any other brand) the way to go? Sorry if tis question has been bashed around already. I ran my first Ironman marathon in Newtons and did pretty well, I trained with those for an entire season and they are good shoes. I quit using them because some video analysis of my gait and foot landing showed that they're not the right option for me. Regardless, I recommend them highly and especially if you are a midfoot/forefoot striker. |
| 2012-09-03 6:46 PM in reply to: #4393134 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed JoePetto - 2012-09-03 12:41 PM What's a toenail? 4 miles easy in the rain. Legs feel fine after yesterday's long run, but I'm on the verge of losing another toenail.  |
| 2012-09-03 7:05 PM in reply to: #4392134 |
Master 1780 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed dangremond - 2012-09-02 2:18 PM I use an amphipod system and love it. Can carry 4 bottles and I guess I could buy more bottle mounts and carry more if needed. Mitch: Is the 2-bottle system belt the same as the 4-bottle system belt? I only need the two bottle one for the near future but would hate to have to buy another one once (or if) I increase my mileage in a year or so. Thanks |
| 2012-09-03 7:11 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 1780 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Did my first (ever) 8-mile run. Had a hard time keeping my HR at MAF due to heat and humidity, but still feels good to keep increasing mileage. Also got the beginning of nipple rash, so I guess its time to buy bodyglide. Can you use the Chamois Butt'r as lubricant or is the bodyglide better? Ernesto S 1/ B 2/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 6:57:08Charlotte S1/B2/R1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 4:38 Mitch S 1/ B 2/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 4 Time 2:51:55 Barry S 0/ B 1/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 6:10:31 Chris S 0/ B 0/ R 3 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 4:33:05 Joe S 0/ B 0/ R 3 Total 3 Time 4:08:00 Mark Z S 1/B 1/R1 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 3:42:00 Jackie S 1/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 3:36:18 Rachel S 1/ B 2/ R 0 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 2:46:01 Gabe S 0/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 2 Time 5:08:21 Scott S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 3:45 Samy S 0/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 3:37:43 Andy S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 2:57:42 Jim S 1/ B 0/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 01:24:15 |
| 2012-09-03 7:27 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
| Maple Grove, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Jackie, Sorry to hear about your run leg. Nutrition is a tough one. Too little and you bonk, and too much and you want to throw up. You don't need that many calories for an Olympic. Matthews, I have two pairs of Newton's, which I switched into from Vibram Five Fingers. I like them. The MV2's are very tight in the toe box, but I am getting used to them, and I like them because they are very light. They also wear very fast however. The Distances are my other pair. I like them as well. I use the MV2's for track work and faster runs and the Distances for general mileage. Not sure which I will wear for my marathon. Leaning toward the lighter MV2's. Joe Petto, I don't actually agree that it's normal to lose toenails. I've only lost one (big toe last January in a pair of Vibrams). It is pretty well known that this is due to your foot slamming into the front of your shoe, especially during downhill portions. If your shoes fit right, this shouldn't happen. Everyone, Several participants in this group were asking how to get their run times down. My wife competed in the Victory Memorial 10K here in Minnesota today which is called the fastest Minnesota 10k. It is put on by the Minnesota Distance Runners Association, and every race they put on has lots of very fast runners. (My wife is doing great. She is putting in times which give her a shot at a BQ in her first marathon this fall.) One thing I noticed is that elite age group runners look different than elite age group triathletes. Specifically they are thinner. Much thinner. And they wear less clothing. 1) Weight. The general rule of thumb is you get 2 seconds per mile faster for every pound you lose. So 10 pounds is about two minutes off a 10k or 9 minutes off a marathon. 2) They wear almost nothing. Heat dissipation matters. |
| 2012-09-03 8:37 PM in reply to: #4393523 |
Veteran 445 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Samyg - 2012-09-03 7:11 PM Did my first (ever) 8-mile run. Had a hard time keeping my HR at MAF due to heat and humidity, but still feels good to keep increasing mileage. Also got the beginning of nipple rash, so I guess its time to buy bodyglide. Can you use the Chamois Butt'r as lubricant or is the bodyglide better? Samy, I dont know about the Chamois but I use a little bodyglide and then bandaids on top. this has worked for me through numerous 16+ mile runs. |
| 2012-09-03 8:55 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Sammy: Chamois butter for your chamois in your cycling or Tri shorts, body glide for nipples, inside thighs, feet, etc. I used some euro style chamois butter for the first time yesterday, little bit of menthol action, but seemed to work well. Regarding the amphipod system, I have the 4 bottle system but typically use only 2 bottles. If its really hot or really long run or combo of both I add bottles. You can take off the extra mounts, or in my case leave them off if you are too lazy to deal with putting them on or off. It's a very flexible system. Customer service is great too. I was at a race expo and talked to the amphipod rep, told him I had a cap that cracked when the bottle dropped on sidewalk in dead of winter, he took my address and sent me a new cap for free. -Mitch |
| 2012-09-03 8:57 PM in reply to: #4393543 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed chris2533 - 2012-09-03 8:27 PM Everyone, Several participants in this group were asking how to get their run times down. My wife competed in the Victory Memorial 10K here in Minnesota today which is called the fastest Minnesota 10k. It is put on by the Minnesota Distance Runners Association, and every race they put on has lots of very fast runners. (My wife is doing great. She is putting in times which give her a shot at a BQ in her first marathon this fall.) One thing I noticed is that elite age group runners look different than elite age group triathletes. Specifically they are thinner. Much thinner. And they wear less clothing. 1) Weight. The general rule of thumb is you get 2 seconds per mile faster for every pound you lose. So 10 pounds is about two minutes off a 10k or 9 minutes off a marathon. 2) They wear almost nothing. Heat dissipation matters. ^^this...x2 |
| 2012-09-03 10:11 PM in reply to: #4393642 |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed dangremond - 2012-09-03 7:57 PM chris2533 - 2012-09-03 8:27 PM Everyone, Several participants in this group were asking how to get their run times down. My wife competed in the Victory Memorial 10K here in Minnesota today which is called the fastest Minnesota 10k. It is put on by the Minnesota Distance Runners Association, and every race they put on has lots of very fast runners. (My wife is doing great. She is putting in times which give her a shot at a BQ in her first marathon this fall.) One thing I noticed is that elite age group runners look different than elite age group triathletes. Specifically they are thinner. Much thinner. And they wear less clothing. 1) Weight. The general rule of thumb is you get 2 seconds per mile faster for every pound you lose. So 10 pounds is about two minutes off a 10k or 9 minutes off a marathon. 2) They wear almost nothing. Heat dissipation matters. ^^this...x2 I have to agree with this and feel that the combination of being about 10 lbs lighter with less body fat vs. a year ago and also having a bigger aerobic base, have produced to significant benefits on my run times. |
| 2012-09-03 10:18 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Samy, glad to hear you are pushing yourself into new distances! Jackie, sorry to hear about your bad experience with nutrition and have had similar experiences, but you will get better at finding the right balance. Joe, for some reason I have been one of the lucky ones with no toenail losses so far (hope I'm not jinxing it now) Yesterday was a rest day and today a 6.8 mile morning run + 3,000m swim at night Gabe S 1/ B 1/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 4 Time 7:09:45 |
| 2012-09-04 12:03 AM in reply to: #4393375 |
Extreme Veteran 692 England | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed JBacarella - 2012-09-03 10:54 PM JoePetto - 2012-09-03 12:41 PM 4 miles easy in the rain. Legs feel fine after yesterday's long run, but I'm on the verge of losing another toenail. I thought I was a freak after my marathon this Spring when I lost four of them. Then I read a quote on why do triathlons "who needs toenails anyway." I don't recall who said, but I have been getting busted on by my kids all Summer. I had two slightly purple toenails, and one that turned black after IM. I forgot to cut my toenails the day before (I was slightly distracted by all the other stuff going on). The black one is still black and I was expecting to lose the nail, but it just seems to be growing out over the top. I'm half expecting that 6 months down the line it's going to suddenly fall off... |
| 2012-09-04 5:48 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Up early - Dreadmill and Drainer Mitch S 1/ B 3/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 6 Time 4:06:39Gabe S 1/ B 1/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 4 Time 7:09:45 Ernesto S 1/ B 2/ R 1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 6:57:08 Charlotte S1/B2/R1 Rest 0 Total 4 Time 4:38 Barry S 0/ B 1/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 6:10:31 Chris S 0/ B 0/ R 3 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 4:33:05 Joe S 0/ B 0/ R 3 Total 3 Time 4:08:00 Mark Z S 1/B 1/R1 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 3:42:00 Jackie S 1/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 3 Time 3:36:18 Rachel S 1/ B 2/ R 0 Rest 0 Total 3 Time 2:46:01 Scott S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 3:45 Samy S 0/ B 1/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 3:37:43 Andy S 0/ B 0/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 2:57:42 Jim S 1/ B 0/ R 1 Rest 1 Total 2 Time 01:24:15 |
| 2012-09-04 7:11 AM in reply to: #4393827 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Torrrential rains this morning forced me onto a 75' dreadmill run. While the dreadmill is painful, I ran all 9 miles at MAF -5 with a consistent pace of 8:13 at 1% incline. Eight months ago I couldn't run a single mile at MAF at that pace on that same dreadmill. Mitch S 1/ B 3/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 6 Time 4:06:39 |
| 2012-09-04 7:17 AM in reply to: #4393543 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed chris2533 - 2012-09-03 8:27 PM Petto, I don't actually agree that it's normal to lose toenails. I've only lost one (big toe last January in a pair of Vibrams). It is pretty well known that this is due to your foot slamming into the front of your shoe, especially during downhill portions. If your shoes fit right, this shouldn't happen. I tend to agree, but the impacted toe (the one next to the big toe) is deformed in that the toe is longer than my big toe. No shoes are going to accomodate that and what I need to do (which I often forget) is to wear a protective sleeve. When I used to play tennis it was a big problem. |
| 2012-09-04 8:09 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Short track run this morning. Mitch S 1/ B 3/ R 2 Rest 1 Total 6 Time 4:06:39 |
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