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2008-01-31 6:41 PM
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PeterAK - 2008-01-31 2:31 PM

Hey Gang!  Finally got a good night sleep last night.  Getting a workout in definately helps with that.  Looking forward to some time on the computrainer tonight, and I stopped to pick up some Perpetuem for the workout so I can stop using the Gatorade powder that I've been using this winter.

I know it's only Thursday, but what does everyone have on deck for the weekend?

Friday - if I can wake up early enough I might try a swim before I venture out and do some old fashion door to door resume submissions.

Saturday - not sure yet - 3 mile run on the schedule so I will most likely stretch it out longer if I feel up to it.

Sunday - 5 miler on schedule.



2008-02-01 10:02 AM
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TGIF! Have a good weekend. Stay warm and stay safe.
2008-02-01 10:22 AM
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Just got the all clear from an orthopedist. After very thorough checks of my shoulders, it appears to be garden variety tendonitis. I am *very* relieved to be "a boring patient" to a surgeon. He didn't say that, very good doc, I just felt silly seeing all the other patients. I'll have a couple PT sessions to find strengthening exercises I can do, and that's about it. Wooo!

I went to a "beginner triathlete" club meeting last night. They seem like very nice people, and I'm sure they'll be very successful, but while they're beginning triathletes, they're established athletes already in my opinion. Several are marathon runners, and the others are at least half. I thought I'd thicken my skin and tough it out, just for the socialization, but when I mentioned to the leader my dreadfully slow run times, he said, "Don't worry, we'll start out with six mile runs at a 10 min/mile pace and work on speed from there." Right. I'm not capable of *either* of those "Beginning" points. I'll be petty and admit I felt a certain satisfaction that they're all dreading the swim. For a few, even putting their face in the water is a challenge.

I was kind of discouraged when I got home, but then I realized, I WILL finish. It will take me a lot longer, but I'll get there all the same. I'm kinda bummed I'll have to continue on alone, but I'm slow, and that's just the way it is for now.

edit: Eeek, thank you Dave. that was really disrespectful of me to say "alone"! I've received incredible encouragement for the folks here. I thought it would be fun to have people in my local area to train and visit with, and so I could quit talking my poor partner's ear off about this work-out and that race. You're absolutely right. I have an excellent support group here. I wouldn't dare say anything different!

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2008-02-01 10:39 AM
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Tautery - 2008-02-01 10:22 AM  I'm not capable of *either* of those "Beginning" points. I'll be petty and admit I felt a certain satisfaction that they're all dreading the swim. For a few, even putting their face in the water is a challenge. I was kind of discouraged when I got home, but then I realized, I WILL finish. It will take me a lot longer, but I'll get there all the same. I'm kinda bummed I'll have to continue on alone, but I'm slow, and that's just the way it is for now.

But you are NOT alone! you have this great group right here....  I struggle with the run as well - we can struggle together! I train entirely by myself, but through a few good BT Pals  I get the motivation and support I need. Hang in there!

 

2008-02-01 11:22 AM
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Tautery - 2008-02-01 10:22 AM Just got the all clear from an orthopedist. After very thorough checks of my shoulders, it appears to be garden variety tendonitis. I am *very* relieved to be "a boring patient" to a surgeon. He didn't say that, very good doc, I just felt silly seeing all the other patients. I'll have a couple PT sessions to find strengthening exercises I can do, and that's about it. Wooo! I went to a "beginner triathlete" club meeting last night. They seem like very nice people, and I'm sure they'll be very successful, but while they're beginning triathletes, they're established athletes already in my opinion. Several are marathon runners, and the others are at least half. I thought I'd thicken my skin and tough it out, just for the socialization, but when I mentioned to the leader my dreadfully slow run times, he said, "Don't worry, we'll start out with six mile runs at a 10 min/mile pace and work on speed from there." Right. I'm not capable of *either* of those "Beginning" points. I'll be petty and admit I felt a certain satisfaction that they're all dreading the swim. For a few, even putting their face in the water is a challenge. I was kind of discouraged when I got home, but then I realized, I WILL finish. It will take me a lot longer, but I'll get there all the same. I'm kinda bummed I'll have to continue on alone, but I'm slow, and that's just the way it is for now. edit: Eeek, thank you Dave. that was really disrespectful of me to say "alone"! I've received incredible encouragement for the folks here. I thought it would be fun to have people in my local area to train and visit with, and so I could quit talking my poor partner's ear off about this work-out and that race. You're absolutely right. I have an excellent support group here. I wouldn't dare say anything different!

YAY!!! This is all good stuff.  The all clear means you can move forward with your goals.  Don't put so much weight in the comments of one person.  You need to worry only about you.  Even if you never find yourself on a podium, if you finish the race, you are a triathlete.  In my mind, that's all that matters!

2008-02-01 11:24 AM
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Had a breakthrough ride (I hope!) on the computrainer last night.  Finally put some good watts up and felt great doing it.  Legs feel no worse for the wear today so that's pretty exciting.  Monday I start the BT HIM plan with 20 weeks to go to High Cliff.  Lots of work to do and I'm excited to get back to business.

Going to bust out of the office for a 30 minute swim this afternoon, ride tomorrow, run Sunday.  I'm excited because I finally feel like it's (early) tri season!



2008-02-02 6:34 AM
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HAPPY GROUNDHOG DAY EVERYONE!!!!!

NEWS ALERT: PUNXSUTAWNEY PHIL SEES SHAWDOW, 6 MORE WEEKS OF WINTER

                                                                                                           --- FOX NEWS

2008-02-02 10:52 AM
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Bummer!  I am so looking forward to riding outside again.
2008-02-02 8:18 PM
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Well it kept snowing all day here in WI so I ran the tready today w/ another BTer.  1/2 mary plan I have been following called for 3 miles but I went for 6 miles.  Felt good too.  When did I start to somewhat enjoy running?   SOMEWHAT, mind you!!!

2008-02-02 10:07 PM
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2008-02-03 10:18 AM
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Zilla - 2008-02-02 10:07 PM I did a 13 mile trail run/hike on Thursday.  A 5 mile speed walk on Friday.  And I plan to do a 10 mile trail run on Sunday.  Did I mention I hate running? LOL! 

Wha???  Never mentioned THAT!!!



2008-02-03 10:45 AM
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I've read the maxims about increasing no more than 5-10% in  terms of either distance, time, or intensity.  While that is all well and good -  at what point do you say - lets see what this engine can do?

I was on the dread mill and have been gradually increasing my basic pace  this off season but when do you decide to push and see what you can really do - i mean at some level it becomes what is the point of discomfort I can tolerate for "long"  time .. "Hey lets try this pace and see if I can really do it" - _ Wow I can? - while I am still every slow -  I pushed it a bit this weekend and felt OK. How often do you do this or is it better to just slowly ratchet up the distance, time, or intensity. 

2008-02-03 12:10 PM
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Dave, of the three sports, running is the one where the 10% / week guideline is most important. While a triathlete's cardiovascular system develops a solid base from hours spent training in all three sports, run specific muscles and soft tissues will not build up to match aerobic fitness as quickly as we may like. If you want to increase intensity or hours sooner do it with the bike or swim and be patient with the run. Let all the systems of your body acclimate slowly or you will significantly increase the likelihood of injury!

Below I pasted your 2007 year in review as it gives a good big picture perspective to analyze this question with. With the exception of September to November, 2007 was pretty consistent for run minutes/miles, and it looks like you have increased a bit for the last two months. I think you can continue increaseing mileage and/or intensity but be careful to stick to 10% a week. I'm not big on speed work and my fastest runs are always on race day. This works for me, but there are plenty of other athletes of my ability or better who think intervals etc. are an important part of training.

 

It's a good thing that you are feeling the urge to push it!

 

Actual training log for: daveo1101 - 2007 Training Summary
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Blog Calendar Week Month Year Graphs
DateBikeRunSwimSports
January 13.89 Mi - 45m
51.06 Mi - 10h 46m 05s
12150.00 Yd - 3h 24m 56s
3h 20m
February 3h 05m
27.48 Mi - 5h 06m 21s
13750.00 Yd - 4h 21m 56s
5h 39m
March 42.11 Mi - 7h 41m 53s
26.29 Mi - 4h 39m 38s
21350.00 Yd - 6h 46m 52s

April 110.03 Mi - 9h 45m 13s
37.30 Mi - 6h 38m 54s
28500.00 Yd - 8h 45m 33s

May 70.97 Mi - 5h 18m 21s
34.49 Mi - 6h 16m 59s
18881.10 Yd - 5h 48m 51s
19h 06m
June 48.82 Mi - 3h 59m
33.54 Mi - 6h 12m 26s
9943.40 Yd - 2h 55m 22s

July 74.79 Mi - 8h 04m 55s
37.92 Mi - 6h 53m 59s
10141.00 Yd - 3h 03m 02s
3h 45m
August 15.74 Mi - 1h 25m 46s
24.55 Mi - 4h 36m 50s
9000.00 Yd - 2h 36m 20s
19h 33m
September
5.64 Mi - 1h 05m 04s
2800.00 Yd - 43m 50s
45m
October

2500.00 Yd - 48m 17s

November
15.91 Mi - 3h 19m 14s
17950.00 Yd - 5h 36m 53s
7h 29m
December 4h 13m 44s
47.50 Mi - 9h 55m 25s
11300.00 Yd - 3h 03m 44s
4h 24m
Yearly totals:376.35 Mi - 44h 18m 52s
Pace: 16.16 Mi/hr
341.68 Mi - 65h 30m 55s
Pace: 11m 29s Mi
158265.50 Yd - 47h 55m 36s
Pace: 01m 49s /100 Yd
64h 04m 46s

January 2008

January 6.00 Mi - 10h 02m 43s
41.19 Mi - 8h 03m 33s
21075.00 Yd - 6h 04m 22s
1h 30m

 

2008-02-03 2:26 PM
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2008-02-04 1:49 PM
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2008-02-04 2:07 PM
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Crazy weather this winter.  33 and raining heavy this morning, and 5-9" of heavy snow possible tomorrow night. 

20 training weeks to the High Cliff half ironman!

2008-02-05 12:17 PM
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2008-02-05 1:25 PM
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Zilla - 2008-02-05 12:17 PM We cannot fall to page two!  NO!!!

How's the training going Zilla?  I'm envious of your hiking/running routes!  For those of you who haven't checked out Zilla's training log, there are some awesome pics in there.

I'm hitting the computrainer after work!

2008-02-05 2:33 PM
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Hey kids!!

Dammit, I'm lost again. Where is my mentor group??  BAAAAB?? BAAAAB STAAAAACKS?? 

2008-02-06 10:31 AM
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2008-02-06 10:39 AM
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It's a snow day in Milwaukee!  Even the malls are closed.  Crazy.  I may go to the office for a while this afternoon but not sure.  Right now Lori is making me watch The View.  At least Fergie is on and I like her...  Going to be doing plenty of shoveling later today.  Hoping we can still make it to our scheduled meeting with a caterer at 6:30 in West Bend (daspanglers' stompin' grounds) but it's a 30 mile or so drive so we'll see what things are like later.

Had a great workout last night at the DTC.  Rode a tough course that was lots of climbing but not much descending so the avg speed was something like 12 mpg in spite of averaging 225 watts! 

Going to put on the heavy Red Wing boots and walk to the bank to deposit some checks later.   That will probably be it for workouts today.  Running with our very own Force tomorrow evening!

2008-02-07 12:18 AM
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PeterAK - 2008-02-06 10:39 AM

Hoping we can still make it to our scheduled meeting with a caterer at 6:30 in West Bend (daspanglers' stompin' grounds) but it's a 30 mile or so drive so we'll see what things are like later.

Dude - let me know the next time you're in town!  I'll take you over to the Riverside Brewery.  Tammy would probably even join us!

6:30?  I was probably out in my driveway piling snow above my head!  What caterer are you using?

2008-02-07 9:56 AM
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2008-02-07 11:07 AM
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Bump! 

Good run last night - dropped almost a minute off my pace  and did not feel dead - nor any ammonia odor - good stuff - a little bike tonight perhaps - rest day tomorrow - easy swim - run saturday to loosen up for 2nd race in the series on Sunday... goal is to break 8 miles...

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