Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed (Page 14)

Mommyintraining

2010-02-20 7:32 PM

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Port Kent, NY

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Robin7 - 2010-02-19 9:38 PM Okay, just want to say ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE 2 BEAT KICK! watched some video of it and started trying it today and something just clicked. It makes complete sense. why kick so much when all that kicking just doesnt perform as well as gliding and everything in unison. I think the 2 beat kick is for me.

Anyone else use that, just curious?

(Donto, sorry to hear you have to back off alittle).

I do that is how I was taught to swim, my girlfriend that is also doing the tinman, kicks a lot/hard and I conviced her that the 2 beat kick was better at least for triathletes.

FWSquatch

2010-02-20 8:20 PM

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Fort Worth

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

@Mommyintraining - I'm not sure if the lacing helps, yet because I haven't tried it, but Donto gave me this link and it sounds like one of their patterns might help alleviate the pain I've been getting in my big toe. I'll let you know if it works.

Wow! The two beat kick looks like it's right up my alley. I've always felt like my legs were working way too hard as I swam. I'm going to have to get that thing perfected!

Edited by FWSquatch 2010-02-20 8:23 PM

2010-02-21 10:38 AM

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Elite

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Alturas, California

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Well, lets just call that a learning experience. Thermometer says 45F.... ok well that's not too bad. I set out with intermediate gloves, windproof shell up top, wool socks, full head/facemask in the pocket just in case. Hrm... windy that is a bit brisk, and there goes the sun behind the clouds. Well, going up hill, so not too bad and into the the trees so a little less wind, kind of down wind now. Fine all the way to the top (snow level around 5000feet). Hrm wind blowing across the snow is a bit cold. Then it is time to turn around and come down (18 miles out). Less energy output, into the wind, brrrrr. Hands and feet going numb, have to stop and warm up hands under armpits several times... which it turns out drops core body temp some. That can't be good. News flash... shivering on the bike makes it hard to ride because it makes you wobble. Yup shivering for 45 minutes. I finally got on the flats and just cranked to try to raise core temp. With HR up at 140 I got core up enough to stop/slow the shivering. I figure temp was 25 F colder with windchill on top of the hill. Man that was not happy. Mental note... dress more cautiously in the winter.

2010-02-21 10:41 AM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

If anyone here uses a Kurt Kinetics bike trainer (or CycleOps fluid trainer), it has been determined on this thread that using the KK power meter/computer works pretty darn well when compared with a Power Tap (on the trainer only).

I'm pretty happy about this because of the HR lag and there's nothing better than going by power with a bike workout. Someday maybe I'll be able to afford a Power Tap meter but until then my indoor trainer rides are going to be by power using their computer.

2010-02-21 3:36 PM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Donto - 2010-02-21 10:41 AM If anyone here uses a Kurt Kinetics bike trainer (or CycleOps fluid trainer), it has been determined on this thread that using the KK power meter/computer works pretty darn well when compared with a Power Tap (on the trainer only).

I'm pretty happy about this because of the HR lag and there's nothing better than going by power with a bike workout. Someday maybe I'll be able to afford a Power Tap meter but until then my indoor trainer rides are going to be by power using their computer.

YUP! My husband does! He loves it. I have a computrainer (uh, well, we have a computrainer, but my bike sems to stay on it : ) and my hubby rides his K.K. trainer & power meter/computer. it's no c.t., but gives him reads that are comperable to the c.t. when he gets to use it!!

2010-02-21 3:38 PM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

I do! My kick is a 2 beat kick and it has been fine for me over the years. For swimmers w/ a larger kick (more of a scissor kick) I have them use a 4 beat kick to keep it smaller and more efficient.

2010-02-21 3:40 PM

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@Baowolf - Sounds like indoor weather for me! I am such a cold weather wimp on the bike!

I am done with a blur of a training weekend - wiped out - I went through 2 training outfits yesterday and three today - I've gotta go do some laundry!!

2010-02-21 4:17 PM

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Elite

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Alturas, California

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

I just needed to upgrade the gloves, put on some biking pants, possibly a thermal shirt and I would have been fine. I just underestimated the drop in temp from elevation gain and windchill + downhill with little energy output.

Robin7

2010-02-21 6:44 PM

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York, PA

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

FWSquatch - 2010-02-20 9:20 PM @Mommyintraining - I'm not sure if the lacing helps, yet because I haven't tried it, but Donto gave me this link and it sounds like one of their patterns might help alleviate the pain I've been getting in my big toe. I'll let you know if it works.

Wow! The two beat kick looks like it's right up my alley. I've always felt like my legs were working way too hard as I swam. I'm going to have to get that thing perfected!

FWsquatch, Here's something I just found on youtube showing the difference. Seeing it this view is pretty cool too. Check it out. -------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
This link is just another one I found tonight. I can't remember what youtube video I watched earlier last week to decide to try it.

Edited by Robin7 2010-02-21 6:46 PM

2010-02-21 9:41 PM

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Elite

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Alturas, California

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Oh my that was fun. As part of a 9 mile run, after warmup, did 10 x 1:00 at 5k pace, 2:00 at marathon pace followed up by 30 minutes of just finish it off. A lovely 35F today some wind.

2010-02-22 2:44 PM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

O-k, anyone dragging and putting off that workout today - I was putting off swimming b/c I was tired and had a million things to do - finally forced myself out the door to swim. Had a wonderful swim - the hour flew by in no time!! Go Get 'Em!

2010-02-22 3:08 PM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Nice Run Baowolf! I got out this morning, somehow, someway I did (NOT a morning person) and it felt great. 4.5 miles at easy Z2 pace then last mile build for 10k finish simulation. Wife and I are doing a 10k this weekend, weather right now is for it to be cold yet again (upper 30's) for race start. McMillan's run calculator says I should be able to PR based on this months 1/2 Mary time, so it PR or bust!

2010-02-22 11:44 PM

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Elite

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Alturas, California

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Never race the same distance twice and you get more PR's ... is my strategy. although I am running out of distances.

2010-02-23 7:40 AM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Baowolf - 2010-02-22 11:44 PM Never race the same distance twice and you get more PR's ... is my strategy. although I am running out of distances.

Awesome strategy - thanks for the laugh this morning! : )

2010-02-23 10:40 AM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

I've been truly humbled...I completed the 20 min and 5 min bike power tests on the trainer, 204 and 233 respectively. Good news is that I have 14 weeks to get these up for the Sprint A-race.

Mommyintraining

2010-02-23 12:25 PM

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Port Kent, NY

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Well we are expected to get 12-18 inches of snow starting later this afternoon, YEAH!!! Going skiing after all that snow, its not often we get these kinds of conditions, powder that is on the Mtn. The nick name for our mtn is Ice Face!!! Yesterday got all messed up and I ran out of time for my run.....Today I should be able to get all my work outs in, so far my bike is done though I didn't finish my last 10 minutes b/c someone got hungry and wouldn't wait just ten minutes for mommy to finish. Oh well, he comes first!!! Hope everyone has a great day!!

Edited by Mommyintraining 2010-02-23 12:27 PM

2010-02-24 10:01 AM

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Elite

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Alturas, California

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Yay doubled last month's swim and bike miles this month over last month. Hope the snow melts for my noon run today.... and hill work on the bike tomorrow.

Quiet here... everyone hybernating?

2010-02-24 10:27 AM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

I hope it's that everyone is out training!! I am on a big day today, bike, run, bike - but we are getting rain/snow so it's an indoor bike. Hopefully it will warm up for an outside ride on Friday or Sunday. I long for spring days!!

Robin7

2010-02-24 5:15 PM

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York, PA

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Baowolf, I know, I've been thinking it's quiet in here too.

I'm still in though. Focusing on increasing my swimming distance. Also, went to check out my first Tri course on Sunday, specifically the bike leg. I'm still pumped up and excited.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Edited by Robin7 2010-02-24 5:16 PM

FWSquatch

2010-02-24 8:37 PM

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Fort Worth

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Just got back from picking up our race packets for this weekend's Cowtown Marathon....ok, ok, I'm only doing the 5K, but I'm pretty excited about it. Plus, we've got some old friends coming in to town to run it with us. We've got us a 10 man team and we're gonna take this thing by storm. Afterwards, we plan on devastating some bratwursts and beer at my house. Lookout Cowtown! Here comes the Angry All-Squatch Brigade! (Weird name, I know. It's a long story).

Shinka

2010-02-24 10:16 PM

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NE Texas

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Hey Everyone, I am still here... TT in swimming and bike this week. The sportcounter for lap counting works well. It has adjustable band to fit around the forefinger and a single button for lap counting. All it does is count laps but it works well; however, I wouldn't know if it was off or not because i can't keep up with the laps myself. Still counting down the days till my first try... James

2010-02-25 6:54 AM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

See, sounds like everybody is just busy training, training, training!! Great job!

@fsquatch Sounds like loads of fun! I love having groups at races - that means there is plenty of people to cheer you on!! Good luck!

@Robin When is the tri? Were you able to ride on the bike course?

2010-02-25 1:45 PM

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Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Log tip...
If you are logging mostly in distance vs time, you can change your logs mini graphs to be in distance. Mini graphs don't lie so get the volume credit due! It's always good to see how much training your doing over the past months time.

Select 'Settings' on the BT top toolbar. 'Training Log Settings' tab, then the 'Log Defaults' sub tab. One the 4th line from the bottom, change the "Show minigraphs in :" to Distance.

2010-02-25 8:02 PM

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Elite

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Alturas, California

Subject: RE: Kati's MOMMA training group - Closed

Any swimmers please take a look at my swim video under my albums. I hope it is not too dark, say if it is and I will try to brighten it... er well have my wife try to figure out how to brighten it or take a video during the day.

My swimming is so slow... any help will be appreciated.