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2010-07-26 3:04 PM
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Week Totals
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4024.00 Yd
1h 20m 26s
B: 
35.50 Mi
2h 15m 39s
R:  
12.19 Mi
2h 21m 56s


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2010-07-26 3:53 PM
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LostSheep - 2010-07-26 2:57 PM Ok, Mark, thanks for the input on the quarq, but I've got a ways to go, and I'm just as confused looking at it now as I was 3months ago.

Am I replacing the whole crankset and current setup I have, or am I buying a new one? (I did see that I could do either or right?)

And how do I know if I'm currently using 110 or 130 crank arms? And lastly, what's the largest difference besides brand on all of the different cranks available? Not sure why, but it just seems like there's a WHOLE lot going on!


110 or 130?  110 is a compact crank, usually 50/34(# of teeth on the chainrings).  130 is a standard crank, usualy 53/39.

As far as the brand of cranks, I don't think there's alot of difference.  Just name, price and material.

If you have a compatible crank, then you can mail it to them and they'll install it.
2010-07-26 3:54 PM
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[email protected] - 2010-07-26 3:01 PM
BamaDC - 2010-07-26 3:03 PM

How was everyone's week.  I had very good swim/run week but the bike fell behind due to my pedals locking up.

S:  
10300.00 Yd, 3h 00m 35s
B: 
41.90 Mi, 2h 15m
R:  
31.31 Mi, 4h 00m 07s


decent  week here.
Week Totals
S:  
8500.00 Yd
3h 21m
B: 
190.94 Mi
11h 19m 02s
R:  
18.63 Mi
3h 10m 27s


Nice bike mileage.
2010-07-26 4:57 PM
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BamaDC - 2010-07-26 2:03 PM

How was everyone's week.  I had very good swim/run week but the bike fell behind due to my pedals locking up.

S:  
10300.00 Yd, 3h 00m 35s
B: 
41.90 Mi, 2h 15m
R:  
31.31 Mi, 4h 00m 07s


S:  
6000 Yd
B: 
116 Mi
R:  
21 Mi

Pretty good week for me.  I rode a brutal 63 miler yesterday (so, so hot), so today will be my first rest day in 16 days.  I don't even feel like swimming today - shoulders are sore from biking, for crying out loud.

BTW, my shoes are typically SOAKED when I get back in, both biking and running.  It is just ridiculous out there right now.  My wet shoes are such a problem I have bought a dedicated shoe dryer (my wife hates when I use the hair dryer).
2010-07-26 4:58 PM
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My week: not so good. I'm going to SUFFER at my Rocketman Oly!

S:  
4000.00 Yd
1h 15m
B: 
27.13 Mi
1h 29m 25s
R:  
13.77 Mi
2h 10m 48s
Str:  
10m
2010-07-26 6:31 PM
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LostSheep - 2010-07-26 4:58 PM My week: not so good. I'm going to SUFFER at my Rocketman Oly!

S:  
4000.00 Yd
1h 15m
B: 
27.13 Mi
1h 29m 25s
R:  
13.77 Mi
2h 10m 48s
Str:  
10m


I'll be there suffering as well!


2010-07-26 6:40 PM
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[email protected] - 2010-07-26 3:01 PM
BamaDC - 2010-07-26 3:03 PM

How was everyone's week.  I had very good swim/run week but the bike fell behind due to my pedals locking up.

S:  
10300.00 Yd, 3h 00m 35s
B: 
41.90 Mi, 2h 15m
R:  
31.31 Mi, 4h 00m 07s


decent  week here.
Week Totals
S:  
8500.00 Yd
3h 21m
B: 
190.94 Mi
11h 19m 02s
R:  
18.63 Mi
3h 10m 27s





Well hello starnger! Looking strong man. 16 weeks and counting.
2010-07-26 8:15 PM
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2010-07-26 9:23 PM
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Me LIKEY! But, alas, 1200 is still out the budget right now... Part of the reason I'm still waiting and shopping... 
2010-07-27 10:19 AM
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What's the biggest differences between the Powertap cassete power meter and the Quarq type crank power meters?  Is one more accurate than the other, better?  What's the better value?
2010-07-27 6:16 PM
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pilotzs - 2010-07-27 11:19 AM

What's the biggest differences between the Powertap cassete power meter and the Quarq type crank power meters?  Is one more accurate than the other, better?  What's the better value?


From the research I've been doing, on the surface there doesn't seem to be a whole lot.  They both use force/strain gauges to measure the amount of torque you're putting out (either directly on the crank or on the hub via the chain) vice the one Polar makes which tries to measure vibrations in the chain.  A lot of things I've read say you need to zero the powertab frequently but I think you need to zero the quarq each time you ride so I'm not sure why people make a big deal out of this. 

I go back and forth but right now I'm leaning towards the powertab.  The main reason is that it's seems a lot simpiler.  Yes, I need to get someone to build it into my wheel for me but I don't need to worry about crank size.  Since I'm still working out some fit issues so I may end up changing crank arms, etc.  I know I can do this with a quarq but it will be more complicated.    The downside of the power tab is that if you have training and racing wheels it can actually be more expensive than a quarq by the time you buy two hubs.  I'm not really worried about this because I don't see myself having two sets of wheels for my current bike.  Right now I'm riding a road bike and by the time get to the point that race wheels make a differece it will be time for a new tri-bike.


2010-07-27 6:20 PM
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BamaDC - 2010-07-26 3:01 PM
titeloops - 2010-07-26 9:48 AM I had a brutal weekend of workouts. The Heat was definitely a major factor. We been hot as hell for a month now. This weekend was temps over 100 with heat index of 110 or better. Did a hilly 60 miler on Sat. that just kicked my azz. Then a 1 hour run on Sunday morning. When I finished I literally could not believe the sweat I was producing. The wife got pissed when i came in the house dripping all over. I start early, but it's 85 at 6:00 am this morning. Need a break in the heat for sure.


Look honey!  I sweated my azz off!  I've had some recent runs where even my shoes were heavy from the sweat.


No kidding.  My shoes barely dry out between runs. 

I'm starting to see what you mean about HR pacing.  Yesterday I tried to keep my HR lower from the start.  I felt a lot better at the end of the run.  I also think I was faster.  I won't be able to tell for sure until I get home and download everything but my average pace was about 0:15/mi faster than when I started out faster and faded because my HR got out of control.
2010-07-27 9:20 PM
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cornfed - 2010-07-27 6:16 PM
pilotzs - 2010-07-27 11:19 AM

What's the biggest differences between the Powertap cassete power meter and the Quarq type crank power meters?  Is one more accurate than the other, better?  What's the better value?


From the research I've been doing, on the surface there doesn't seem to be a whole lot.  They both use force/strain gauges to measure the amount of torque you're putting out (either directly on the crank or on the hub via the chain) vice the one Polar makes which tries to measure vibrations in the chain.  A lot of things I've read say you need to zero the powertab frequently but I think you need to zero the quarq each time you ride so I'm not sure why people make a big deal out of this. 

I go back and forth but right now I'm leaning towards the powertab.  The main reason is that it's seems a lot simpiler.  Yes, I need to get someone to build it into my wheel for me but I don't need to worry about crank size.  Since I'm still working out some fit issues so I may end up changing crank arms, etc.  I know I can do this with a quarq but it will be more complicated.    The downside of the power tab is that if you have training and racing wheels it can actually be more expensive than a quarq by the time you buy two hubs.  I'm not really worried about this because I don't see myself having two sets of wheels for my current bike.  Right now I'm riding a road bike and by the time get to the point that race wheels make a differece it will be time for a new tri-bike.


To zero the quarq you pedal backwards 4 times.  To zero a powertap you have to have the computer in the right menu and be coasting.  But they could have changed this process in newer models.

If your working out fit issues than you right the powertap will be a better choice.
2010-07-29 8:04 AM
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cornfed - 2010-07-27 6:16 PM
pilotzs - 2010-07-27 11:19 AM

What's the biggest differences between the Powertap cassete power meter and the Quarq type crank power meters?  Is one more accurate than the other, better?  What's the better value?


From the research I've been doing, on the surface there doesn't seem to be a whole lot.  They both use force/strain gauges to measure the amount of torque you're putting out (either directly on the crank or on the hub via the chain) vice the one Polar makes which tries to measure vibrations in the chain.  A lot of things I've read say you need to zero the powertab frequently but I think you need to zero the quarq each time you ride so I'm not sure why people make a big deal out of this. 

I go back and forth but right now I'm leaning towards the powertab.  The main reason is that it's seems a lot simpiler.  Yes, I need to get someone to build it into my wheel for me but I don't need to worry about crank size.  Since I'm still working out some fit issues so I may end up changing crank arms, etc.  I know I can do this with a quarq but it will be more complicated.    The downside of the power tab is that if you have training and racing wheels it can actually be more expensive than a quarq by the time you buy two hubs.  I'm not really worried about this because I don't see myself having two sets of wheels for my current bike.  Right now I'm riding a road bike and by the time get to the point that race wheels make a differece it will be time for a new tri-bike.


thank you for the background.  That makes a bit more sense.

There doesn't appear to be much difference as far as function.  They appear to do the same thing, efficiently.

I only have one bike right now, but may end up with a Tri bike in the future.  I'm not sure if a race wheel will be in my future, at least for a while.  Seems the powertap would be the way to go, since the wheel can be changed easily between bikes in the future.
A crank would be a lot more difficult to switch out.

It seems like I could get a good enough wheel to act as my training and racing wheel, until I get serious (improve) enough to lay the cash down on a really high end set of wheels.
2010-07-29 8:58 AM
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pilotzs - 2010-07-29 8:04 AM
cornfed - 2010-07-27 6:16 PM
pilotzs - 2010-07-27 11:19 AM

What's the biggest differences between the Powertap cassete power meter and the Quarq type crank power meters?  Is one more accurate than the other, better?  What's the better value?


From the research I've been doing, on the surface there doesn't seem to be a whole lot.  They both use force/strain gauges to measure the amount of torque you're putting out (either directly on the crank or on the hub via the chain) vice the one Polar makes which tries to measure vibrations in the chain.  A lot of things I've read say you need to zero the powertab frequently but I think you need to zero the quarq each time you ride so I'm not sure why people make a big deal out of this. 

I go back and forth but right now I'm leaning towards the powertab.  The main reason is that it's seems a lot simpiler.  Yes, I need to get someone to build it into my wheel for me but I don't need to worry about crank size.  Since I'm still working out some fit issues so I may end up changing crank arms, etc.  I know I can do this with a quarq but it will be more complicated.    The downside of the power tab is that if you have training and racing wheels it can actually be more expensive than a quarq by the time you buy two hubs.  I'm not really worried about this because I don't see myself having two sets of wheels for my current bike.  Right now I'm riding a road bike and by the time get to the point that race wheels make a differece it will be time for a new tri-bike.


thank you for the background.  That makes a bit more sense.

There doesn't appear to be much difference as far as function.  They appear to do the same thing, efficiently.

I only have one bike right now, but may end up with a Tri bike in the future.  I'm not sure if a race wheel will be in my future, at least for a while.  Seems the powertap would be the way to go, since the wheel can be changed easily between bikes in the future.
A crank would be a lot more difficult to switch out.

It seems like I could get a good enough wheel to act as my training and racing wheel, until I get serious (improve) enough to lay the cash down on a really high end set of wheels.


They're both easy to swithc out, when I had my Lynskey Road bike it would take a little over a minute to switch out the quarq.

The Powertap is a really good option for a first powermeter.  Plus you can get a wheel cover for like 80 dollars and have a disk wheel.  The data wheelbuilder posted puts the wheel cover right up there with the true disc wheels.  
2010-07-29 8:59 AM
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Anyone planning a winter marathon?

What races are you looking at for next years A race?


2010-07-29 9:24 AM
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BamaDC - 2010-07-29 8:59 AM Anyone planning a winter marathon?

What races are you looking at for next years A race?


I'm planning on running the St. Jude Half Marathon in Memphis (December).
Atlanta Half Marathon (next March).

After that, I'm looking to do a HIM next year (if all works out and I sign up) and try to get in some serious training over the winter to improve.  Any suggestions on a good HIM for next year?  I would like to do a sub 6 HIM, but will be pushing that based on my current fitness for running.

I'm looking at the following HIM's:

New Orleans (April)
Galvaston (April)
Florida (May)
Augusta (September)
Austin (October)

or non-IM branded
Gulf Coast HIM (May)
Rev3 Knoxville (May)

I'd like the HIM to be my A race.  I'll fill in some races around that.
2010-07-29 9:31 AM
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BamaDC - 2010-07-29 9:59 AM Anyone planning a winter marathon?

What races are you looking at for next years A race?


I'm going to run the Richmond half marthon this fall (already signed up) and will probably do the Shamrock Half Marathon in VA Beach in march.  I've decided to stay away from marathons for at least a year.

As for an A race for next year... I haven't gotten to this year's A-Race yet!
2010-07-29 10:54 AM
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pilotzs - 2010-07-29 9:24 AM
BamaDC - 2010-07-29 8:59 AM Anyone planning a winter marathon?

What races are you looking at for next years A race?


I'm planning on running the St. Jude Half Marathon in Memphis (December).
Atlanta Half Marathon (next March).

After that, I'm looking to do a HIM next year (if all works out and I sign up) and try to get in some serious training over the winter to improve.  Any suggestions on a good HIM for next year?  I would like to do a sub 6 HIM, but will be pushing that based on my current fitness for running.

I'm looking at the following HIM's:

New Orleans (April)
Galvaston (April)
Florida (May)
Augusta (September)
Austin (October)

or non-IM branded
Gulf Coast HIM (May)
Rev3 Knoxville (May)

I'd like the HIM to be my A race.  I'll fill in some races around that.


I'm undecided between Rev 3 and Gulf Coast.  But my first A race will be one of the two.
2010-07-29 11:28 AM
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BamaDC - 2010-07-29 10:54 AM
pilotzs - 2010-07-29 9:24 AM
BamaDC - 2010-07-29 8:59 AM Anyone planning a winter marathon?

What races are you looking at for next years A race?


I'm planning on running the St. Jude Half Marathon in Memphis (December).
Atlanta Half Marathon (next March).

After that, I'm looking to do a HIM next year (if all works out and I sign up) and try to get in some serious training over the winter to improve.  Any suggestions on a good HIM for next year?  I would like to do a sub 6 HIM, but will be pushing that based on my current fitness for running.

I'm looking at the following HIM's:

New Orleans (April)
Galvaston (April)
Florida (May)
Augusta (September)
Austin (October)

or non-IM branded
Gulf Coast HIM (May)
Rev3 Knoxville (May)

I'd like the HIM to be my A race.  I'll fill in some races around that.


I'm undecided between Rev 3 and Gulf Coast.  But my first A race will be one of the two.


Is there any benefit to making my first HIM an IM branded event?
2010-07-29 1:25 PM
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I'm doing Augusta in 6 weeks, so I'll give ya some feedback when completed. As mentioned, I gotta finish this years A race (and survive) before I can look at next year. There is a HIM in Costa Rica in Feb., that would be awesome. Not IM branded. I'm seriosuly considering it. CR is just an awesome place. I have over a million airline miles that I could cash in for flight and hotel. (used to travel every week for work so I racked up the miles)

Tangent:
Did a run this morning, and about half way thru the back of my ankle started to hurt. Still hurting. Not sure what that body part is, but starting to worry a little. Any idea's?

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titeloops - 2010-07-29 1:25 PM I'm doing Augusta in 6 weeks, so I'll give ya some feedback when completed. As mentioned, I gotta finish this years A race (and survive) before I can look at next year. There is a HIM in Costa Rica in Feb., that would be awesome. Not IM branded. I'm seriosuly considering it. CR is just an awesome place. I have over a million airline miles that I could cash in for flight and hotel. (used to travel every week for work so I racked up the miles)

Tangent:
Did a run this morning, and about half way thru the back of my ankle started to hurt. Still hurting. Not sure what that body part is, but starting to worry a little. Any idea's?


Ask Jacques(sand101), he probably made a voodoo doll of you too.  Back of the ankle is the achilles tendon.  Start icing it, alot of times its just inflammation.
2010-07-29 9:04 PM
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Handful of advil and a short small chainring spin this evening, and it's feeling much better. Wink
2010-07-30 8:06 AM
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BamaDC - 2010-07-29 8:59 AM Anyone planning a winter marathon?

What races are you looking at for next years A race?


I only have the Orange Beach 1/2 Marathon on my radar for my long runin November. But it's Thanksgiving weekend, so we'll see.

Other than that no.

But next year, I'm really hoping for some Oly's and a HIM. I'll sprinkle in a few sprints while I'm there

I'm really looking at Chattanooga, Rocketman (if this years goes good), Buster Britton, Augusta HIM, Rev3 HIM, or Gulf Coast HIM.

Not sure why, but Augusta really has been calling my name lately!
2010-07-30 8:11 AM
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LostSheep - 2010-07-30 8:06 AM
BamaDC - 2010-07-29 8:59 AM Anyone planning a winter marathon?

What races are you looking at for next years A race?


I only have the Orange Beach 1/2 Marathon on my radar for my long runin November. But it's Thanksgiving weekend, so we'll see.

Other than that no.

But next year, I'm really hoping for some Oly's and a HIM. I'll sprinkle in a few sprints while I'm there

I'm really looking at Chattanooga, Rocketman (if this years goes good), Buster Britton, Augusta HIM, Rev3 HIM, or Gulf Coast HIM.

Not sure why, but Augusta really has been calling my name lately!


We have a half marathon up here in November and its cheap.  Like 15 dollars.  But the medal and shirt aren't as nice as Mercedes Mary.
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